TRICH traded to colts

Zombo

@ledzepfan1 said:
Lol Zombo, they are talking about you on the Indy forums hahaha http://forums.colts.com/topic/20688-breaking-news-colts-trade-for-trent-richardson-merge/page-9

Well, excuse me for winning.

2012 Fantasy Champion.

nickers

Look at this way...We have given the stools 2 games they can win now LOL

Spectralcow

@tour2ma said:

Let's see...

I'm offered my first HC job by the team I grew up rooting for...

Should I take it? or...

Should walk away from that because they are not destined for greatness five minutes after I sign...

Hmmmmmmm...

Lotta good posts there Cowboy, but that tweren't one of them.

You misunderstood what I was saying, or perhaps I wasn't clear. I wasn't asking why he took the job. I was asking how he took the job and didn't know what he was getting. Chud was hired in January, which (to me) means he should have been studying up on the Browns before that. This is September. How is he just now figuring out that Richardson isn't what he wants. Had he figured that out before the draft, we could have maybe had a 2013 pick and been a year ahead on this thing. Or we could have had another running back lined up.

Now, I'm sure you guys will say "Well, he needed time to see how it was going to work," and I'm glad, because didn't about a dozen people on this forum claim to know that Richardson was "sub-par" because last year's YPC wasn't high enough? If a bunch of guys on a forum can figure that out from looking at one stat, why does it take an NFL coach until Week 2 of the regular season to see he's not the guy?

See where I'm coming from, Chief? Someone's wrong here. Either a layman can't tell whether he's good by looking at last year's YPC, or Chud should have been able to tell before now. One of those has to give.

Spectralcow

Oh, and btw, for those YPC fans. I'm not a huge Bettis fan, but I've heard his name mentioned for Hall of Fame consideration. Do you know what his career YPC was? 3.9. Early in his career, he had years where his YPC was 3.2, 3.5, etc. Whether he gets in or not is irrelevant. I think we can agree that there's a fair number of people that would tell you that Bettis was a good RB (I'm not even really one who would admit it), even though his YPC wasn't great at times or over his career as a whole.

Tour2ma

@spectralcow said:
See where I'm coming from, Chief? Someone's wrong here. Either a layman can't tell whether he's good by looking at last year's YPC, or Chud should have been able to tell before now. One of those has to give.

Yup and I still stand by my first reply... no way does he pass on the job.

As for taking time to identify team needs... I said after the draft that they were taking a year to be sure of what they had and shortly thereafter that's what they came out I said. Not hard to understand given that they moved from WCO to vertical on one side and 4-3 to 3-4 on the other, but stockpiling mid-round picks was the dead giveaway.

I found it refreshing that they actually took their time and admitted that was what they were doing. God knows we've had plenty of quick fix artists fall on their faces... including the legendary Paul Holmgren, who undid the best thing we had going since our return to bring in "his guy"... and then panicked in his final year producing an all-time bust of a draft.

I can wait an extra year for this bunch to get it right... but they need to get it right. Jury's gonna be out a while, but if they fail it won't be for lack of effort... or due to panic.

Waiting for next year

@badnewsbrowns said:
A few weeks ago a lot of us had hopes for a possible wild card season, maybe even the division; now in only week 2 we have essentially thrown in the towel, that's what really sucks.

HUH???

Maybe in your dreams....The team is twiggy thin (as we see now) up front, Have 1 corner back and subpar safeties and wideouts that run 8 yards on a 3rd and 10

PLAYOFFS????

What’s that? Ah — Playoffs? Don’t talk about — playoffs? You kidding me? Playoffs? I just hope we can win a game! Another game.

Waiting for next year

@fairhooker11 said:

yea but by your estimation it seems like 20/20 hindsight

I dont mind Chud making this evaluation and pulling the trigger...

He (indirectly) did that a few years back as o coodinator when Frye was traded - DA started and well., got our hopes up again for a while at least?

So Chud is GM too....Banner/Lombardi must be really surprised you fired them

cdl15

Bye Trent. Hope u continue to prove Jim Brown correct for the remainder of ur career.

Waiting for next year

@mark-o said:

Any Anti-Trent bias that comes from me is a direct result of certain "Browns Fans" who are now claiming to be done as Browns fans as a result of this trade.

You know who you are..

I actually have reversed my "I don't give a shit" attitude!!! It reminds me the years when the Indians had Thome, Manny, Nagy in the minors and traded for Sandy Kenny and Carlos.

I believe this trade will be the foundation or will end this franchise....it's that big...Bigger for Cleveland than the Colts

Waiting for next year

@spectralcow said:

I would be asking myself why, as a candidate to be a HC for a professional football team, I didn't realize that before I got there.

He was talking owner not coach as the team was 4-12 in Learner's last year and 5-11 under new ownership

Chud inherited a 5-11 team sparky and to get MY shot......I would even coach the CLEVELAND CLOWNS BROWNS

hoorta

@baconhound said:
It makes sense from a future standpoint but I wait to see how it's handled. You are telling the current players and fans that this season is lost and it is week 3. Richardson wasn't taking this team to the playoffs but he at least made it more interesting. Now this team is completely talentless on offense.

Ah "The Night Watchman" got off work- So many, many comments coming, took me a bit to wade through the 18 pages. As a season ticket holder, ^+1, I don't believe you weasel Banner, and I'm not buying your BS. You officially threw the season in the tank, mid September. We've sucked since 1999, and you're telling me to hang on for a few more years? So you got maximum value for Richardson- and you want to tell me a washed up Willis McGahee is any better? THIS YEAR?

We just joined in the Bridgewater Bowl. Even if Dumtardi pulls another Joe Montana, Jim Brown & Jerry Rice out of his ass in the 2014 draft, I don't see the rookies taking us to the Super Bowl in 2015- and sorry, I'm running out of years- and patience.

hoorta

@bonedawg said:
Well the Browns just gave up on this season and they expect fans not to do the same? I'd be pissed if I was a season ticket holder.

ROYALLY pissed, you got that right.

hoorta

@tampadawgs said:

Well Couple of things

1. Trich Fantasy Value just went thru the roof!!!!!

2. Good Luck Obi as your the starting running back

3. This will not be the last move

4. There is another team in Cleveland busting there ass for something, just not allowed to say what team

5. Thank God for Fantasy Football

Dear Tampa, please post all you want to about the INDIANS Apparently, the Browns Front Office doesn't give a shit about how many games they win THIS YEAR.

hoorta

@ballpeen said:

Have you been to one this year, and if so, did you plan on going to any others.???

I live in Chattanooga, Tennessee. Right close to the Georgia line.....587 miles from home to my my hotel in Berea. I do 6 games a year

I am not protesting SHIT! We decided to cut bait and go a different way. I am good with that.

So Mr. Poet.....don't go to games you weren't going to attend anyway, complain all you like. I will still be in in the stands 6 games a year, and yes, that makes me a better fan.

Indeed!

"Peen, it's more of the same old, same old. Sure, Richardson and Weeden have shown to date they weren't worth where they were drafted- problem is- until proven otherwise, Lombardi and Banner have shown nothing to prove that they can do any better.

hoorta

@poeticg said:
So, you come out here all the way from out of town, with your money, and you go to 6 games a year, well, who do you think is supporting them while your in Tenessee, it's the fan's here in NE Ohio! The one's that fly the orange and brown banners, this is Browns Town BITCH! who the fuck do you think supports this team during training camp? Were you at Family Fun Night? We were! And now...we wont be...This ain't my Browns, they did US dirty, you don't trade Haden, you don't trade Joe Thomas, and you don't trade Trent Richardson! So I don't give a fuck what the fuck you for now on, but this ain't my team anymore, this is a fucking Pet Cemetery, mistake by the lake, they did Cribbs dirty, Vickers, Winslow, Edwards, the list goes on... Blue Chippers, you don't trade! Fourteen year's ends now! I don't need to commit Suicide, the Browns did it for me.

Please PG, I know you're POED about them trading your hero- but take a look at the guys you just mentioned- 1\2 of them are out of football now.

DieHardBrownsFan

@hx214 said:
Lets just get the bull dozers in here and turn this place into a parking lot. Haha

Why? What has he done to make you think he is a game changer?

hoorta

@miktoxic said:

i already took mine and a valium. a nice cocktail along with a cocktail.

gonna get numb brothers.

i want to see these mother fuckers beg for the fan support and the 'come out to the game' crap. i knew banner was a rat. and chudzinski looks like a coon hound with a beer gut. all he needs is a straw had and a piece of straw in is mouth. huckleberry. lombardi is just another gooned up wop. haslam doesn't know his ass from a hole in the ground.

can't we get some local blood in the FO or find some majority of biz owners buy haslam out (like the red sox owners did) cuz obviously none of these guys know what it means to be a browns fan and what we've been through to just come out and say "see ya next year!'.

and the circus never leaves cleveland. i can hear the merry go round from here in ny.

Got a nice buzz going on with a bottle of 10 year old port. "Well, it's all going to be better now that we're doing the Drafting". Yeah, MoFos- SHOW ME.

Plenty of booing gonna be going on come Bungle week.

hoorta

@tim-couch-pulls-out said:

I am physically ill thinking about this trade. Not because I believed Trent to be a world beater All-Star caliber talent, but because we ended up losing out overall on value.

We traded up to get him at 3, and we're likely to revive a pick between 16-25 for him in return. I love having two first round picks, but we could have easily gotten a later round pick as well for Richardson.

We're gearing up for a big roster overhaul, I believe.

Not so much losing out on value- it's like- losing out on a season- on week #3.

hoorta

@harry-buffalo said:
Ya we over paid for him, but why is that used as an excuse to get rid of him? The team is literally saying, here is a player that is worth a mid to late-ish round pick... and we are just going to trade him before week 3. All this move says is that they have given up on the season with 14 games left to play, that they don't give two shits about the fans. Make the damn excuse that you building towards your team goal, but try selling me that shit in the offseason, not two weeks into the regular season. This lay down and die bullshit. Whats even worse is they won't admit it. "Hey season ticket holders, thank for giving us all that money, hopefully these wiener dog races really pan out!"

^+1- Can I get a refund on my tickets, now that you've thrown in the towel? This says they really don't give two shits about this year, and as you say about the season ticket holders. - it's wait until the 2015 season- we're going to be REALLY good. F- you. I've been waiting since 1999 for you to be "Really good."

DieHardBrownsFan

@tampadawgs said:

Happiest team in the NFL the Vikings playing against a team with a third string QB and No Runningback and you know the players are down.

Viking will crush the Browns

42-3

Right. And if we had Weeden and Trich it would make a big difference?