TRICH traded to colts
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This doesn't bother me at all. Richardson was a mediocre professional back. I doubt he will do anything spectacular for the Colts, and hopefully they suck big time so we get a high first round pick.
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Great move. Dude was a bust here. We recovered from our terrible pick. Lost nothing, gained a good pick.
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During the season, it is about winning games and not supposed to be about the draft. During the part of the year that there are no games is when you build and make moves. The part of the year that games are played is when you put on the best show possible.This is just pure bullshit. Tanking the season? How about tanking the decade? Just think how great they could be then. I been watching this team since 1960 and this is without a doubt the most confusing thing I have seen since Modell got rid of Paul Brown. Name one other team that has done anything remotely close to this.Even the Bengals never showed such lunacy during the regular season. The ticket holders take it on the chin again. I wiil continue to follow and hopefully have reason to root for them but there will be iced tea served in hell before I spend a red cent on anything related to the Browns.
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If I may express my opinion as a Colts fan, I think it's a good trade for both teams. Let's face it, the Browns probably weren't going anywhere anyway, and this gives them more ammo in next years draft to get a true franchise QB. If the browns eek out a few wins and finish with the 3rd or 4th pick in the first round, this second 1st round pick can be thrown in to move up. If I were a browns fan, I wouldn't be too upset over this.
Actually, there are a bunch of colts fans who do not like this trade. I am not one of them. I think it will work out for both teams.
The only thing this trade does is guarantee the Browns another top 10, probably top 5 pick- but don't worry we're used to it. OTOH Fox Sports was saying Luck just landed his Edgerrin James, and hate to tell you- he's not. Guy has no burst and breakaway gear & puts on his dancing shoes instead of trying to blast through a tiny hole. He's a very good receiver, high character guy.
But THIS year, the Browns now have absolutely nothing at RB.
The only thing this trade does is guarantee the Browns another top 10, probably top 5 pick- but don't worry we're used to it. OTOH Fox Sports was saying Luck just landed his Edgerrin James, and hate to tell you- he's not. Guy has no burst and breakaway gear & puts on his dancing shoes instead of trying to blast through a tiny hole. He's a very good receiver, high character guy.
But THIS year, the Browns now have absolutely nothing at RB.
If you thought the Browns would finish higher than 7-9 before they lost their 2 starting guards your delusional. Without Cousins on a train out of town the Browns will be LUCKY to win 5
Did you see the Center/Guard the Steelers picked up outside church last Sunday? Titians starting C/G from last year and all Bannerbardi could find is O'Neil Cousins????? How is this guy a professional football player??
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I have no problem trading Richardson....in fact, I think we got a lot more than he was worth. The problem is our great history of first tound draft picks. Here we go again....draft a qb in the first round.....if he doesn't set the world on fire in his first season, then start looking to draft another one.
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Seeing as how our best RB has a broken leg, in the long run this isn't a bad move.
It shows me two things:
1. Our current FO wasn't impressed in the least with Heckert's efforts to build a team.
2. See ya next year--2 games in and the FO has decided to rip the bandage off
and flush this season down the toilet.
I'm with Mik in the sense that I'm no longer 17 and am beginning to accept that there
is a better than good chance that I'm never going to see a winner in Cleveland. Having
said that, it's obvious that the current regime has decided that the "same shit, different day"
outlook has to end. They see no reason to hold on to an ineffective #3 for no other
reason than he was a #3 pick. And I hope Weeden enjoyed his playing time in Cleveland
because the only way he's going to see the field again in a Browns uni is if Hoyer and
Campbell go down.
My wife is happy--I can no longer get out of doing needed chores around the house with
the excuse "I'm watching the Browns".
I'll see everyone on Draft Day.
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How is getting a 1st round pick for a bust rb that can be replaced by any RB for 3 yards a carry tanking the season?
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I have seen so many posts about how easy it is to get a good QB and RBs are a dime a dozen. Cooll! Now, why don't we have either? Trent was 3.5 a carry here with a pretty bad O line. Add 1 yard to that avg. and he looks pretty good. Maybe a line that blocks for him will help that. I hope they stock up on Guards and Tackles because after all, QBs and RBs are cheap.
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This doesn't bother me at all. Richardson was a mediocre professional back. I doubt he will do anything spectacular for the Colts, and hopefully they suck big time so we get a high first round pick.
This doesn't bother me at all. Richardson was a mediocre professional back. I doubt he will do anything spectacular for the Colts, and hopefully they suck big time so we get a high first round pick.
Excellent and totally true a 5-13 back
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How is getting a 1st round pick for a bust rb that can be replaced by any RB for 3 yards a carry tanking the season?
How is getting a 1st round pick for a bust rb that can be replaced by any RB for 3 yards a carry tanking the season?
It would have been nice if they would have said, "Well, we see a large upside in Bobby Rainey and we think he can fill that need nicely" instead of laughing at the question as to "Who are you going to have play running back?" and saying they have Willis coming in from the geriatric ward.
Or how about leap frogging the 2nd string QB that they brought in to compete for the QB job and giving it to Brian Hoyer.... Basically saying they couldn't bring in a 2nd string that is worth playing.
Whether anybody wants to say it in the front office or not they are tanking the season
I mean it is what it is, and there isn't a damn thing any of us are going to do about it, and maybe 3 years from now it will pay off, but the track record says otherwise and when the team is 2 games into the season and their is no reason to watch the rest of the year as they are starting guys that came in of the streets its deflating for fans that look forward to the football season all year long.
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The media "experts" are idiots.
I sincerely do understand the feeling of a lost season. I had Saban bail on us, Ricky retire on us, watched our management team pick Culpepper over Brees, and dealt with Sparano for a few years.
Things get better. Stuff happens (like, say, your arch-rival hiring Sparano as an offensive coordinator).
Hang tight.
dude that offensive coordinator now with the jets is going to beat you twice this year.
dude that offensive coordinator now with the jets is going to beat you twice this year.
Dude, that offensive coordinator got fired, and is now the Oakland Raiders O-Line coach. That makes your projection highly unlikely.
But, yes, the Jets are the Jets. The Fins and the Jets always end up in stupid nail-biters, regardless of talent.
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I was in a good mood this morning. Then I thought I'd check in on the Browns, see if we had news on Rubin and Laovuvoaovo for the weekend. If you had asked me which player we'd traded away, I would have gone through about 50 guesses before getting to Richardson!
Three problems, neither of which are related to not having him on the team next year:
1) Why was this done now, not at the end of the season?
2) Why did we only get a first rounder?
3) Who's going to play RB this season?
I guess next year we're in for Lewis and someone else, RB by committee, presumably some power back. I think that'll work out fine, but it's basically giving up on this season. Still, next April/May is going to be some exciting times!
I was in a good mood this morning. Then I thought I'd check in on the Browns, see if we had news on Rubin and Laovuvoaovo for the weekend. If you had asked me which player we'd traded away, I would have gone through about 50 guesses before getting to Richardson!
Three problems, neither of which are related to not having him on the team next year:
1) Why was this done now, not at the end of the season?
2) Why did we only get a first rounder?
3) Who's going to play RB this season?
I guess next year we're in for Lewis and someone else, RB by committee, presumably some power back. I think that'll work out fine, but it's basically giving up on this season. Still, next April/May is going to be some exciting times!
1) I think the coaching staff would have done it sooner if he had been healthy enough during pre-season. Remember the phrase "We are keeping him fresh"? That means, we are keeping him from getting an injury as we shop him throughout the league. This was probably decided on months and months ago. This explains a lot IMO and why TRich was only getting 11-15 carries in the 1st two games.
2) Lots of reasons. Unfortunately neither you or I are on the calls when these go down, so it's only speculation. But TRich hasn't shown a ton. Decent season last year playing with broken or bruised ribs. Still injury prone IMO, at least the reputation is there. And he's not blowing people up like we thought. 1 first round pick for another, I'm OK at this point.
3) This season? At this point 1-15 or 3-13 is what we get. Any more and I will be surprised. The real question is going to be who are we drafting as a QB next year. That's what this is all about.
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Next year, with half a dozen picks in the top 100, we'll be fine - it'll maybe take a while to get everything clicking, but we have the ability to go and get good players (execution is another thing, of course). But you can't help but feel we're trying to "create a talent void for Boyd" or any number of catchy slogans way better than 'suck for luck'
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uhm, Belichick left with Modell to baltiwhore, ASSHAT.
corrected
again....no he didn't dickwad he was fired...He never coach in Baltimore
come back when you know what the hell your talking about
again....no he didn't dickwad he was fired...He never coach in Baltimore
come back when you know what the hell your talking about
the moment operations stopped for the Browns in Cleveland, was MOMENT they became Baltimore's team....
In Belichick's last season in Cleveland the Browns finished 5β11, despite starting 3-1. In November of that year in the middle of the ongoing football season, Browns owner Art Modell had announced he would move his franchise to Baltimore after the season. After first being given assurances that he would coach the transplanted Baltimore Ravens, Belichick instead was fired on February 15, 1996βone week after the shift was officially announced.[8] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Belichick
yea good coach -going 3-1 til Modell dropped that bomb on us fans.... playoffs the year before beating Parcells / Pats at the muni...
I dont live in Cleveland either, but you dont have your facts straight pal
fans didnt chase Belichick out of town, rather we were pissed he released Kosar -
asshat
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How is getting a 1st round pick for a bust rb that can be replaced by any RB for 3 yards a carry tanking the season?
It would have been nice if they would have said, "Well, we see a large upside in Bobby Rainey and we think he can fill that need nicely" instead of laughing at the question as to "Who are you going to have play running back?" and saying they have Willis coming in from the geriatric ward.
Or how about leap frogging the 2nd string QB that they brought in to compete for the QB job and giving it to Brian Hoyer.... Basically saying they couldn't bring in a 2nd string that is worth playing.
Whether anybody wants to say it in the front office or not they are tanking the season
I mean it is what it is, and there isn't a damn thing any of us are going to do about it, and maybe 3 years from now it will pay off, but the track record says otherwise and when the team is 2 games into the season and their is no reason to watch the rest of the year as they are starting guys that came in of the streets its deflating for fans that look forward to the football season all year long.
It would have been nice if they would have said, "Well, we see a large upside in Bobby Rainey and we think he can fill that need nicely" instead of laughing at the question as to "Who are you going to have play running back?" and saying they have Willis coming in from the geriatric ward.
Or how about leap frogging the 2nd string QB that they brought in to compete for the QB job and giving it to Brian Hoyer.... Basically saying they couldn't bring in a 2nd string that is worth playing.
Whether anybody wants to say it in the front office or not they are tanking the season
I mean it is what it is, and there isn't a damn thing any of us are going to do about it, and maybe 3 years from now it will pay off, but the track record says otherwise and when the team is 2 games into the season and their is no reason to watch the rest of the year as they are starting guys that came in of the streets its deflating for fans that look forward to the football season all year long.
Any RB can get 3 yards a carry. It was a great move by the new regime that saw how terrible the last regimes draft was. It didn't put us into any deeper a hole than we are now. In fact it actaully made things better for the future. The present stays the same, Richardson SUCKED!
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Carson Palmer had a passer rating of 80.5 in 2011 and got traded to the Raiders for a 1st and 2nd round pick. That second round pick was conditional, and would have been another 1st round pick if the Raiders had made the playoffs in 2012.
Carson Palmer had a passer rating of 80.5 in 2011 and got traded to the Raiders for a 1st and 2nd round pick. That second round pick was conditional, and would have been another 1st round pick if the Raiders had made the playoffs in 2012.
Dude. Get it through your head. A quarterback with limited success is>>>>>>>>>more valuable than a running back who can get three yards. We don't need Trent Richardson. Hopefully he does well in Indy but if he doesnt I hope you're here to say you were wrong and way too personally hurt over the trade and you probably shouldn't have taken that cyanide pill.
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One exec I respect deeply, who has watched Richardson closely during his brief NFL career, expressed his initial reaction to this deal: "The Colts panicked. A first-round pick? I don't believe it."
A scout who did plenty of work on Richardson was flabbergasted by the deal: "Weird trade by Indy," he sent via text. "A first for an adequate back with injury issues? They could get that player next year in the mid to late rounds. Get an adequate dude for a later pick. Everyone has depth at that position."
One GM asked who the Browns were going to go with at running back, and I explained they were bringing in free agent Willis McGahee. His response: "Why didn't the Colts do that first before giving up a 1?"
Luck is Tim Couch. Big, Dumb Goofy, slow thinking QB - Ghoolie, 2-28-12 -
again....no he didn't dickwad he was fired...He never coach in Baltimore
come back when you know what the hell your talking about
the moment operations stopped for the Browns in Cleveland, was MOMENT they became Baltimore's team....
In Belichick's last season in Cleveland the Browns finished 5β11, despite starting 3-1. In November of that year in the middle of the ongoing football season, Browns owner Art Modell had announced he would move his franchise to Baltimore after the season. After first being given assurances that he would coach the transplanted Baltimore Ravens, Belichick instead was fired on February 15, 1996βone week after the shift was officially announced.[8] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Belichick
yea good coach -going 3-1 til Modell dropped that bomb on us fans.... playoffs the year before beating Parcells / Pats at the muni...
I dont live in Cleveland either, but you dont have your facts straight pal
fans didnt chase Belichick out of town, rather we were pissed he released Kosar -
asshat
the moment operations stopped for the Browns in Cleveland, was MOMENT they became Baltimore's team....
In Belichick's last season in Cleveland the Browns finished 5β11, despite starting 3-1. In November of that year in the middle of the ongoing football season, Browns owner Art Modell had announced he would move his franchise to Baltimore after the season. After first being given assurances that he would coach the transplanted Baltimore Ravens, Belichick instead was fired on February 15, 1996βone week after the shift was officially announced.[8] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Belichick
yea good coach -going 3-1 til Modell dropped that bomb on us fans.... playoffs the year before beating Parcells / Pats at the muni...
I dont live in Cleveland either, but you dont have your facts straight pal
fans didnt chase Belichick out of town, rather we were pissed he released Kosar -
asshat
Guess you weren't at the games before "the Decision I" Because of Kosargate the fans TURNED on Belichick and he Knew he was done dickinhand seem everyone but you...the idiot who calls him Belichoke
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It would have been nice if they would have said, "Well, we see a large upside in Bobby Rainey and we think he can fill that need nicely" instead of laughing at the question as to "Who are you going to have play running back?" and saying they have Willis coming in from the geriatric ward.
Or how about leap frogging the 2nd string QB that they brought in to compete for the QB job and giving it to Brian Hoyer.... Basically saying they couldn't bring in a 2nd string that is worth playing.
Whether anybody wants to say it in the front office or not they are tanking the season
I mean it is what it is, and there isn't a damn thing any of us are going to do about it, and maybe 3 years from now it will pay off, but the track record says otherwise and when the team is 2 games into the season and their is no reason to watch the rest of the year as they are starting guys that came in of the streets its deflating for fans that look forward to the football season all year long.
Any RB can get 3 yards a carry. It was a great move by the new regime that saw how terrible the last regimes draft was. It didn't put us into any deeper a hole than we are now. In fact it actaully made things better for the future. The present stays the same, Richardson SUCKED!
Any RB can get 3 yards a carry. It was a great move by the new regime that saw how terrible the last regimes draft was. It didn't put us into any deeper a hole than we are now. In fact it actaully made things better for the future. The present stays the same, Richardson SUCKED!
I fail to see how its going to make us better for the future, everything now hangs on draft picks.
If the Browns would have gotten a few young players in the deal along with the trade, then I could see it. Hell, if they take the draft pick they just got from the Colts and trade it for a proven QB that they like, I'd feel better.
They had a full offseason to make the team better and mold them to what they wanted. They drafted a CB that can't get on the field even with Buster Skrine and Adams ahead of him and a Safety they wavied, a back up QB they signed and won't even let play, etc..
All I see now is giving up a starting running back for a late first round pick, that they will probably package together with the other 1st rounder this year to move up from three to one and pick a QB that might work out. Then he won't have anybody to throw to or a line to block for either, so whats the point?
I understand they pulled a high draft pick out of a guy they couldn't use at the moment and I'd love to see the brighter side of this, but I just don't have faith in their drafting...
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I forget....do we have two 1st rounders next year or do we now have 3? For some reason I thought we picked up one in a earlier trade.
I found the answer....2 next year.
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