TRICH traded to colts
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ROYALLY pissed, you got that right.
Let me know if you want 50% face value for 2 tickets to 2 games.......It's called entertainment
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I was in a good mood this morning. Then I thought I'd check in on the Browns, see if we had news on Rubin and Laovuvoaovo for the weekend. If you had asked me which player we'd traded away, I would have gone through about 50 guesses before getting to Richardson!
Three problems, neither of which are related to not having him on the team next year:
1) Why was this done now, not at the end of the season?
2) Why did we only get a first rounder?
3) Who's going to play RB this season?
I guess next year we're in for Lewis and someone else, RB by committee, presumably some power back. I think that'll work out fine, but it's basically giving up on this season. Still, next April/May is going to be some exciting times!
Forgot about your question about 1st rounder........WHY? What has Richardson done that you would want more than a 1st rounder? Granted it will be a low 1st rounder but now you have a chance for a bookend tackle ( could have had Kaili in 12) a stud guard (missed on Womack last year) A top Corner or a Steve Atwater (yea I'm old but ask Bernie how Atwater KILLED the Browns) type safety. What Receiver do you think the Opp. fears? Little?? Benjimin? Cooper? Christ Gordon is the only worthwhile receiver and he's one nap at Taco Bell away from a total ban
I honestly don't see what all the whining is all about this team was AT BEST a 7-9 team....Win a couple pre season games and you all get a wood...christ
Forgot about your question about 1st rounder........WHY? What has Richardson done that you would want more than a 1st rounder? Granted it will be a low 1st rounder but now you have a chance for a bookend tackle ( could have had Kaili in 12) a stud guard (missed on Womack last year) A top Corner or a Steve Atwater (yea I'm old but ask Bernie how Atwater KILLED the Browns) type safety. What Receiver do you think the Opp. fears? Little?? Benjimin? Cooper? Christ Gordon is the only worthwhile receiver and he's one nap at Taco Bell away from a total ban
I honestly don't see what all the whining is all about this team was AT BEST a 7-9 team....Win a couple pre season games and you all get a wood...christ
The point is, Richardson for a first rounder is probably about fair value - 31 other teams seem to think so. So why trade for 'fair value' mid way through the season.
I'm coming round to the trade, I just wish we could have got a bit more. If we end up sucking enough to get a top 3 pick, we get our starting QB, then we use the colts' on a WR. That gives us a 2nd, 3rd, 3rd, 4th, 4th to get a RB, CB and OG. I'm actually OK with that. My big concern is this season.
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I was in a good mood this morning. Then I thought I'd check in on the Browns, see if we had news on Rubin and Laovuvoaovo for the weekend. If you had asked me which player we'd traded away, I would have gone through about 50 guesses before getting to Richardson!
Three problems, neither of which are related to not having him on the team next year:
1) Why was this done now, not at the end of the season?
2) Why did we only get a first rounder?
3) Who's going to play RB this season?
I guess next year we're in for Lewis and someone else, RB by committee, presumably some power back. I think that'll work out fine, but it's basically giving up on this season. Still, next April/May is going to be some exciting times!
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Ya we over paid for him, but why is that used as an excuse to get rid of him? The team is literally saying, here is a player that is worth a mid to late-ish round pick... and we are just going to trade him before week 3. All this move says is that they have given up on the season with 14 games left to play, that they don't give two shits about the fans. Make the damn excuse that you building towards your team goal, but try selling me that shit in the offseason, not two weeks into the regular season. This lay down and die bullshit. Whats even worse is they won't admit it. "Hey season ticket holders, thank for giving us all that money, hopefully these wiener dog races really pan out!"
^+1- Can I get a refund on my tickets, now that you've thrown in the towel? This says they really don't give two shits about this year, and as you say about the season ticket holders. - it's wait until the 2015 season- we're going to be REALLY good. F- you. I've been waiting since 1999 for you to be "Really good."
^+1- Can I get a refund on my tickets, now that you've thrown in the towel? This says they really don't give two shits about this year, and as you say about the season ticket holders. - it's wait until the 2015 season- we're going to be REALLY good. F- you. I've been waiting since 1999 for you to be "Really good."
I'll give you half face for 2 to your choice of 2 games....big enough "refund" for you?? Put up or shut up buttercup
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It stings because he was such a wasted pick and we could have helped the team in another way as opposed to just having a guy for a little over a season.
In all honesty, where we drafted Trent aside (and the stupid trade that came with it), how often do you get a first round pick for a running back that averages less than 4 yards per carry and can't break 1000 yards rushing in a single 16 game season? I know everyone wants more, but you have to be realistic with his actual production in the NFL. I know he had ten touchdowns, but those weren't really any long runs, mostly just goal line touchdowns.
It's not that everyone WANTS more, though. You're making it sound like Browns fans WANT more simply because they are Browns fans and everyone always wants more. The TRUTH is that people outside of the situation, with no stake on the Browns side, think that it was an awfully low price for him.
It's not that everyone WANTS more, though. You're making it sound like Browns fans WANT more simply because they are Browns fans and everyone always wants more. The TRUTH is that people outside of the situation, with no stake on the Browns side, think that it was an awfully low price for him.
I can't understand why you think a average back that you OVERPAID for to begin with should be worth more 17 games later when you KNOW he has a history of injuries??
I think you should feel LUCKY the Browns got a 1st round pick for him...He has led the Browns to a 5-13 record for christ sakes and his touches are those of a backup running back NOT a "stud" back
Do you really think Colt should have got you a even pick? Quinn a 1st rounder? Weeden a 1st rounder? Come on you need to live in the real world....
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This doesn't bother me at all. Richardson was a mediocre professional back. I doubt he will do anything spectacular for the Colts, and hopefully they suck big time so we get a high first round pick.
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Great move. Dude was a bust here. We recovered from our terrible pick. Lost nothing, gained a good pick.
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During the season, it is about winning games and not supposed to be about the draft. During the part of the year that there are no games is when you build and make moves. The part of the year that games are played is when you put on the best show possible.This is just pure bullshit. Tanking the season? How about tanking the decade? Just think how great they could be then. I been watching this team since 1960 and this is without a doubt the most confusing thing I have seen since Modell got rid of Paul Brown. Name one other team that has done anything remotely close to this.Even the Bengals never showed such lunacy during the regular season. The ticket holders take it on the chin again. I wiil continue to follow and hopefully have reason to root for them but there will be iced tea served in hell before I spend a red cent on anything related to the Browns.
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If I may express my opinion as a Colts fan, I think it's a good trade for both teams. Let's face it, the Browns probably weren't going anywhere anyway, and this gives them more ammo in next years draft to get a true franchise QB. If the browns eek out a few wins and finish with the 3rd or 4th pick in the first round, this second 1st round pick can be thrown in to move up. If I were a browns fan, I wouldn't be too upset over this.
Actually, there are a bunch of colts fans who do not like this trade. I am not one of them. I think it will work out for both teams.
The only thing this trade does is guarantee the Browns another top 10, probably top 5 pick- but don't worry we're used to it. OTOH Fox Sports was saying Luck just landed his Edgerrin James, and hate to tell you- he's not. Guy has no burst and breakaway gear & puts on his dancing shoes instead of trying to blast through a tiny hole. He's a very good receiver, high character guy.
But THIS year, the Browns now have absolutely nothing at RB.
The only thing this trade does is guarantee the Browns another top 10, probably top 5 pick- but don't worry we're used to it. OTOH Fox Sports was saying Luck just landed his Edgerrin James, and hate to tell you- he's not. Guy has no burst and breakaway gear & puts on his dancing shoes instead of trying to blast through a tiny hole. He's a very good receiver, high character guy.
But THIS year, the Browns now have absolutely nothing at RB.
If you thought the Browns would finish higher than 7-9 before they lost their 2 starting guards your delusional. Without Cousins on a train out of town the Browns will be LUCKY to win 5
Did you see the Center/Guard the Steelers picked up outside church last Sunday? Titians starting C/G from last year and all Bannerbardi could find is O'Neil Cousins????? How is this guy a professional football player??
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I have no problem trading Richardson....in fact, I think we got a lot more than he was worth. The problem is our great history of first tound draft picks. Here we go again....draft a qb in the first round.....if he doesn't set the world on fire in his first season, then start looking to draft another one.
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Seeing as how our best RB has a broken leg, in the long run this isn't a bad move.
It shows me two things:
1. Our current FO wasn't impressed in the least with Heckert's efforts to build a team.
2. See ya next year--2 games in and the FO has decided to rip the bandage off
and flush this season down the toilet.
I'm with Mik in the sense that I'm no longer 17 and am beginning to accept that there
is a better than good chance that I'm never going to see a winner in Cleveland. Having
said that, it's obvious that the current regime has decided that the "same shit, different day"
outlook has to end. They see no reason to hold on to an ineffective #3 for no other
reason than he was a #3 pick. And I hope Weeden enjoyed his playing time in Cleveland
because the only way he's going to see the field again in a Browns uni is if Hoyer and
Campbell go down.
My wife is happy--I can no longer get out of doing needed chores around the house with
the excuse "I'm watching the Browns".
I'll see everyone on Draft Day.
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How is getting a 1st round pick for a bust rb that can be replaced by any RB for 3 yards a carry tanking the season?
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I have seen so many posts about how easy it is to get a good QB and RBs are a dime a dozen. Cooll! Now, why don't we have either? Trent was 3.5 a carry here with a pretty bad O line. Add 1 yard to that avg. and he looks pretty good. Maybe a line that blocks for him will help that. I hope they stock up on Guards and Tackles because after all, QBs and RBs are cheap.
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This doesn't bother me at all. Richardson was a mediocre professional back. I doubt he will do anything spectacular for the Colts, and hopefully they suck big time so we get a high first round pick.
This doesn't bother me at all. Richardson was a mediocre professional back. I doubt he will do anything spectacular for the Colts, and hopefully they suck big time so we get a high first round pick.
Excellent and totally true a 5-13 back
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How is getting a 1st round pick for a bust rb that can be replaced by any RB for 3 yards a carry tanking the season?
How is getting a 1st round pick for a bust rb that can be replaced by any RB for 3 yards a carry tanking the season?
It would have been nice if they would have said, "Well, we see a large upside in Bobby Rainey and we think he can fill that need nicely" instead of laughing at the question as to "Who are you going to have play running back?" and saying they have Willis coming in from the geriatric ward.
Or how about leap frogging the 2nd string QB that they brought in to compete for the QB job and giving it to Brian Hoyer.... Basically saying they couldn't bring in a 2nd string that is worth playing.
Whether anybody wants to say it in the front office or not they are tanking the season
I mean it is what it is, and there isn't a damn thing any of us are going to do about it, and maybe 3 years from now it will pay off, but the track record says otherwise and when the team is 2 games into the season and their is no reason to watch the rest of the year as they are starting guys that came in of the streets its deflating for fans that look forward to the football season all year long.
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The media "experts" are idiots.
I sincerely do understand the feeling of a lost season. I had Saban bail on us, Ricky retire on us, watched our management team pick Culpepper over Brees, and dealt with Sparano for a few years.
Things get better. Stuff happens (like, say, your arch-rival hiring Sparano as an offensive coordinator).
Hang tight.
dude that offensive coordinator now with the jets is going to beat you twice this year.
dude that offensive coordinator now with the jets is going to beat you twice this year.
Dude, that offensive coordinator got fired, and is now the Oakland Raiders O-Line coach. That makes your projection highly unlikely.
But, yes, the Jets are the Jets. The Fins and the Jets always end up in stupid nail-biters, regardless of talent.
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I was in a good mood this morning. Then I thought I'd check in on the Browns, see if we had news on Rubin and Laovuvoaovo for the weekend. If you had asked me which player we'd traded away, I would have gone through about 50 guesses before getting to Richardson!
Three problems, neither of which are related to not having him on the team next year:
1) Why was this done now, not at the end of the season?
2) Why did we only get a first rounder?
3) Who's going to play RB this season?
I guess next year we're in for Lewis and someone else, RB by committee, presumably some power back. I think that'll work out fine, but it's basically giving up on this season. Still, next April/May is going to be some exciting times!
I was in a good mood this morning. Then I thought I'd check in on the Browns, see if we had news on Rubin and Laovuvoaovo for the weekend. If you had asked me which player we'd traded away, I would have gone through about 50 guesses before getting to Richardson!
Three problems, neither of which are related to not having him on the team next year:
1) Why was this done now, not at the end of the season?
2) Why did we only get a first rounder?
3) Who's going to play RB this season?
I guess next year we're in for Lewis and someone else, RB by committee, presumably some power back. I think that'll work out fine, but it's basically giving up on this season. Still, next April/May is going to be some exciting times!
1) I think the coaching staff would have done it sooner if he had been healthy enough during pre-season. Remember the phrase "We are keeping him fresh"? That means, we are keeping him from getting an injury as we shop him throughout the league. This was probably decided on months and months ago. This explains a lot IMO and why TRich was only getting 11-15 carries in the 1st two games.
2) Lots of reasons. Unfortunately neither you or I are on the calls when these go down, so it's only speculation. But TRich hasn't shown a ton. Decent season last year playing with broken or bruised ribs. Still injury prone IMO, at least the reputation is there. And he's not blowing people up like we thought. 1 first round pick for another, I'm OK at this point.
3) This season? At this point 1-15 or 3-13 is what we get. Any more and I will be surprised. The real question is going to be who are we drafting as a QB next year. That's what this is all about.
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Next year, with half a dozen picks in the top 100, we'll be fine - it'll maybe take a while to get everything clicking, but we have the ability to go and get good players (execution is another thing, of course). But you can't help but feel we're trying to "create a talent void for Boyd" or any number of catchy slogans way better than 'suck for luck'
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uhm, Belichick left with Modell to baltiwhore, ASSHAT.
corrected
again....no he didn't dickwad he was fired...He never coach in Baltimore
come back when you know what the hell your talking about
again....no he didn't dickwad he was fired...He never coach in Baltimore
come back when you know what the hell your talking about
the moment operations stopped for the Browns in Cleveland, was MOMENT they became Baltimore's team....
In Belichick's last season in Cleveland the Browns finished 5β11, despite starting 3-1. In November of that year in the middle of the ongoing football season, Browns owner Art Modell had announced he would move his franchise to Baltimore after the season. After first being given assurances that he would coach the transplanted Baltimore Ravens, Belichick instead was fired on February 15, 1996βone week after the shift was officially announced.[8] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Belichick
yea good coach -going 3-1 til Modell dropped that bomb on us fans.... playoffs the year before beating Parcells / Pats at the muni...
I dont live in Cleveland either, but you dont have your facts straight pal
fans didnt chase Belichick out of town, rather we were pissed he released Kosar -
asshat
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How is getting a 1st round pick for a bust rb that can be replaced by any RB for 3 yards a carry tanking the season?
It would have been nice if they would have said, "Well, we see a large upside in Bobby Rainey and we think he can fill that need nicely" instead of laughing at the question as to "Who are you going to have play running back?" and saying they have Willis coming in from the geriatric ward.
Or how about leap frogging the 2nd string QB that they brought in to compete for the QB job and giving it to Brian Hoyer.... Basically saying they couldn't bring in a 2nd string that is worth playing.
Whether anybody wants to say it in the front office or not they are tanking the season
I mean it is what it is, and there isn't a damn thing any of us are going to do about it, and maybe 3 years from now it will pay off, but the track record says otherwise and when the team is 2 games into the season and their is no reason to watch the rest of the year as they are starting guys that came in of the streets its deflating for fans that look forward to the football season all year long.
It would have been nice if they would have said, "Well, we see a large upside in Bobby Rainey and we think he can fill that need nicely" instead of laughing at the question as to "Who are you going to have play running back?" and saying they have Willis coming in from the geriatric ward.
Or how about leap frogging the 2nd string QB that they brought in to compete for the QB job and giving it to Brian Hoyer.... Basically saying they couldn't bring in a 2nd string that is worth playing.
Whether anybody wants to say it in the front office or not they are tanking the season
I mean it is what it is, and there isn't a damn thing any of us are going to do about it, and maybe 3 years from now it will pay off, but the track record says otherwise and when the team is 2 games into the season and their is no reason to watch the rest of the year as they are starting guys that came in of the streets its deflating for fans that look forward to the football season all year long.
Any RB can get 3 yards a carry. It was a great move by the new regime that saw how terrible the last regimes draft was. It didn't put us into any deeper a hole than we are now. In fact it actaully made things better for the future. The present stays the same, Richardson SUCKED!
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