TRICH traded to colts

ClevelandBigDawg

XxDaBuckeyexX said:
That trade was made 5 months before this one and there has been no mention of any conditions. So I'd say no.

OK, well is it even possible to do something like that. To make the outcome of one trade conditional as part of another. To basically amend the trade as Trent and a 5th for a 1st and conditional 4th... It doesnt look like anything like this is going come out as part of the details at this point, but was wondering if 2 trades that occurred at separate times, could essentially become one and the same.

Flyin J

I'm sure it could, we could just put their 4th back in the trade and add a conditional pick to our end. But thts not the case.

Skinsfan28

I know a lot of you are angry about this, but RBs are a dime a dozen, and Trich, to be honest wasnt looking that great.

You guys did the right thing. Load up on picks so next year you can win the Bridgewater Bowl.

Or, if Jax gets the #1 pick, youll be able to score a QB and another good player. Itd be pretty crazy if you guys sayt got like the #2 pick and the #15 pick.

Lets say JAgs have the #1 pick, then Clowney drops to you guys at #2, or even Maquis Lee in a later pick, and then with your 2nd #1 pick, snag up Boyd, Manziel, kid from UCLA, etc

Either way you can snag a QB and an amazing playmaker during that time. Get an RB in a later round.

Zombo

Everyone keeps saying that RBs are a dime a dozen.

Then how come we don't have one? We don't have a dime?

We don't have one NFL carry on our tailback depth chart and we play a league game in three days.

Zombo

Zombo

This was our RB Depth Chart before the Summer. Some fans were complaining that we signed too many running backs, and speculating on who would get cut:

Richardson

Lewis

Hardesty

OblongBanna

Jackson

Well, it's mid-September and only one of them is on the roster .. and he is now a fullback.

Zombo

Skinsfan28

Zombo said:

Everyone keeps saying that RBs are a dime a dozen.

Then how come we don't have one? We don't have a dime?

We don't have one NFL carry on our tailback depth chart and we play a league game in three days.

Zombo

What happened to Dion Lewis?

That kid could have been the next Shady McCoy. If hes still there, he would have played better than Trich.

Zombo

@skinsfan28 said:

What happened to Dion Lewis?

That kid could have been the next Shady McCoy. If hes still there, he would have played better than Trich.

He's on IR. As is Hardesty. Cut Brandon Jackson. Traded Trent Richardson.

Bobby Rainey is the depth chart at tailback right now.

Zombo

The Cysko Kid

Broke his leg. Hell be back and I do believe he's better than Richardson

hoorta

Zombo said:

Everyone keeps saying that RBs are a dime a dozen.

Then how come we don't have one? We don't have a dime?

We don't have one NFL carry on our tailback depth chart and we play a league game in three days.

Zombo

Don't worry Willis McGahee is on the way to save the day. Banner didn't say it- but we're tanking for Teddy".

FairHooker11

wonder if norv can persuade a certain LT to come back?

darubes

There is bad news,worse news, and worst news about this trade:

1.You get at low first round pick from a team DESPERATE for a running back.The

Browns should have raped the Colts on this deal.

2,Who knows if there is even a franchise QB in next years draft?

3. And the WORST news is Mike Lombardi is your GM. Here is a guy

who is such an embarrassment that he wasn't even allowed to

show up at the press conference announcing the trade. The man is

the GM and is not even permitted to show up at the presser? ( Yeah I know

Banner's reasons for hiding him.) As posted earlier in this post,look

at his draft record.

BTW I am not against this trade. It's just that I thought the Browns should

have gotten more in return and I simply don't think Lombardi knows

football.

Tim Couch Pulls Out

The only reason I can see Hoyer getting the start is this:

In 2001, the New England Patriots started off 0-2 after a depressing 5-11 season the year before. Their 30 year old QB, Drew Bledsoe, injured himself in the fourth quarter of an inter divisional game, and a relatively unheralded QB from a Michigan university then supplanted him as starting QB the next week against a Midwestern team. Brady had two wholly unspectacular performances as a starter before becoming what he is today.

In 2013, the Cleveland Browns started off 0-2 after a depressing 5-11 season the year before. Their 30 year old QB, Brandon Weeden, injured himself in the fourth quarter of an inter divisional game, and a relatively unheralded QB from a Michigan university will supplant him as starter next week against a Midwestern team.

That's literally the only reason why this makes sense to me.

FairHooker11

channeling zombo....

JAFBF

This is sadly enlightening, especially the last play shown:

http://www.draftbrowns.com/2013/06/browns-film-room-trent-richardson/

After looking at this, I'm starting to think maybe our Run Blocking isn't so bad - look at the size of some of those holes opened (the last one you could drive a truck through).

Tim Couch Pulls Out

@fairhooker11 said:
channeling zombo....

I'm just trying to figure out the reason behind it.

I still hate the move and it think Hoyer is garbage.

What I said before has to be the reason behind it, there's no other explanation.

thenew23

Lombardi is not our primary drafter... Joe Banner is, along with guys like Ray Farmer, John Sandusky, and Ken Kovash. Also, veteran coaches such as Norv Turner and Ray Horton. Our player personnel department is filled with quality guys, including a mix of "football guys" and "analytics" guys. I would imagine Banner pulled the trigger on this trade b/c he is smart enough to realize TRich is not worth a 1st round pick, and we may have gotten a steal.

Don't forget, while us fans have to go through this "rebuilding" sh** again and again, this is theses guys' first season. They are trully trying to re-build, and I believe they are trying to do it correctly, and quickly.

hoorta

@jafbf said:

This is sadly enlightening, especially the last play shown:

http://www.draftbrowns.com/2013/06/browns-film-room-trent-richardson/

After looking at this, I'm starting to think maybe our Run Blocking isn't so bad - look at the size of some of those holes opened (the last one you could drive a truck through).

Great stuff Hey Trent- ya know how the play was designed- that's pretty damning evidence your dancing got you into trouble.

flyingfooldoug

If TR goes to Indy and has a real good season, we will know that he was mismanaged and will say a lot about the management team in place. And the same will hold if he flops, we will know then that the management team has a clue. Sorry for being so skeptical but as a Browns fan it comes honestly.

djdawg2010

@thenew23 said:

Lombardi is not our primary drafter... Joe Banner is, along with guys like Ray Farmer, John Sandusky, and Ken Kovash. Also, veteran coaches such as Norv Turner and Ray Horton. Our player personnel department is filled with quality guys, including a mix of "football guys" and "analytics" guys. I would imagine Banner pulled the trigger on this trade b/c he is smart enough to realize TRich is not worth a 1st round pick, and we may have gotten a steal.

Don't forget, while us fans have to go through this "rebuilding" sh** again and again, this is theses guys' first season. They are trully trying to re-build, and I believe they are trying to do it correctly, and quickly.

If it pays off in the long run (and I guess we have to wait and see given that this is a whole new regime from the owner on down) then I'm OK with this trade. Yeah it's gonna be tough to watch, but in the end Trent Richardson is one fuckin' guy! Last time I checked football is a team sport. Furthermore, they aren't the Trent Richardson Browns.... they're the Cleveland Browns! When it comes down to it in the end I root for the name on the front of the jersey (BROWNS) and not the name on the back. I felt that way even when they cut Bernie Kosar, and even despite it being a bad move.

Osiris

@tim-couch-pulls-out said:

I'm just trying to figure out the reason behind it.

I still hate the move and it think Hoyer is garbage.

What I said before has to be the reason behind it, there's no other explanation.

The cynical side of me says they feel like they have nothing to lose. Weeden is toast, they know what they have with Campbell, so they want to see if they get a Kurt Warner or Tom Brady out of Hoyer. Not likely, but if they do, they have possibly their franchise QB, and if they don't, and the season tanks, they have a better shot at drafting their franchise QB.