There isn't a franchise QB in the upcoming draft

gftChris

Is there a top RB we can take with our first pick?

jrb12711

@cbus-brownie said:

There isn't one! Bridgewater, Boyd, Manziel, etc are not the answer. We need an Andrew Luck type of guy that simply isn't in this upcoming draft.

You can beat the strategy of the trade to death, everyone gets it! But it doesn't work without the right guy at the end of this!!

The guy that's under the radar is Hundley (sp?) from UCLA. I had nothing better to do so I pretty much watched that whole UCLA v Nebraska game and man he looked good. His passes were crisp, he runs well, and has all the measurable. I'm not one to compare but his overall style reminded me a lot of Colin K. Wouldn't be surprised at all if he ends up being the top pick.

Westside Steve

Overpriced turds that we will spend multiple first round picks on and will bust within 3 years. Partially because we didn't draft anybody around them that makes for a good team. It's going to piss me off kids, take that to the bank.

Great quarterbacks are not great quarterbacks just because they're the best of the crop for a particular year.

No matter how many first round picks they cost.

WSS

Cbus Brownie

@westside-steve said:

Overpriced turds that we will spend multiple first round picks on and will bust within 3 years. Partially because we didn't draft anybody around them that makes for a good team. It's going to piss me off kids, take that to the bank.

Great quarterbacks are not great quarterbacks just because they're the best of the crop for a particular year.

No matter how many first round picks they cost.

WSS

WSS

Well said.

thenew23

@cbus-brownie said:

There isn't one! Bridgewater, Boyd, Manziel, etc are not the answer. We need an Andrew Luck type of guy that simply isn't in this upcoming draft.

You can beat the strategy of the trade to death, everyone gets it! But it doesn't work without the right guy at the end of this!!

There are potentially up to 8 franchise QBs that have the opportunity to enter this coming draft. Obviously, they still have a long season to go and the combine/prodays, and 3 or 4 of those guys are underclassmen, but all-in-all should be a great QB class entering the draft. I hope we find the right one.

DawgsRule90

I think there are possible franchise QBs in this draft. There was absolutely nothing last year, and that probably explains why Banner and co didnt do anything to build this offense. They put it all on hold and decided to see what Weeden can do. But Bridgewater looks promising. He beat Florida in the Sugar Bowl with Louiseville. Boyd looks decent. Manziel would bring popularity back to the Browns but i dont feel like hes a mature person and could possibly burn out in the pros. But all three of these players have great potential... much better than Weeden or any of our other Qbs over the years.

miktoxic

@westside-steve said:

Overpriced turds that we will spend multiple first round picks on and will bust within 3 years. Partially because we didn't draft anybody around them that makes for a good team. It's going to piss me off kids, take that to the bank.

Great quarterbacks are not great quarterbacks just because they're the best of the crop for a particular year.

No matter how many first round picks they cost.

WSS

WSS

steve you are one smart man.

thenew23

If you don't have anything better to do on Saturdays, keep an eye on these guys:

Obviously - Teddy Twatwater, Louisville; Tajh Boyd, Clemson; Johnny Manziel, Tex A&M

Also - Derek Carr, Fresno State; A.J. McCarron, Alabama; Zach Mettenberger, LSU; Aaron Murray, Georiga; Bryn Renner, UNC

The underclassmen - Brett Hundley, UCLA; Marcus mariota, Oregon; Kevin Hogan, Stanford

Not that ALL of these guys are potential franchise QBs, but they are all talented and are creating their resumes this year to try and be the next NFL QB. They all have the potential, but it will be interesting to see which of these guys shine as the season progresses and we near the draft...

thenew23

Here's a list of WRs:

Top Tier: Marqise Lee, USC; Mike Evans, A&M (underclassman); Sammy Watkins, Clemson

Other talent: Donte Moncrief, Ole Miss; Kasen Williams, Washington; Odell Beckham, LSU; Jordan Matthews, Vandy; Jared Abbrederis, Wisconsin

Cbus Brownie

@thenew23 said:

If you don't have anything better to do on Saturdays, keep an eye on these guys:

Obviously - Teddy Twatwater, Louisville; Tajh Boyd, Clemson; Johnny Manziel, Tex A&M

Also - Derek Carr, Fresno State; A.J. McCarron, Alabama; Zach Mettenberger, LSU; Aaron Murray, Georiga; Bryn Renner, UNC

The underclassmen - Brett Hundley, UCLA; Marcus mariota, Oregon; Kevin Hogan, Stanford

Not that ALL of these guys are potential franchise QBs, but they are all talented and are creating their resumes this year to try and be the next NFL QB. They all have the potential, but it will be interesting to see which of these guys shine as the season progresses and we near the draft...

Bridgewater is the only relistic chance and I don't like the odds. Anyone that thinks Manziel is going to be a franchise qb in the league is delusional

thenew23

@cbus-brownie said:
Bridgewater is the only relistic chance and I don't like the odds. Anyone that thinks Manziel is going to be a franchise qb in the league is delusional

He puts up great numbers against the best competetion in college football. I haven't watched enough of him to trully say either way, but how can you be so sure? He has had 2 great games in his career against Alabama whose D is chalk-full of NFL talent... I don't know, too soon for me to tell...

DieHardBrownsFan

College talent is nothing compared to NFL talent as evidenced by recent picks Colt McCoy, Trent Richardson and Weeden.

thenew23

@diehardbrownsfan said:
College talent is nothing compared to NFL talent as evidenced by recent picks Colt McCoy, Trent Richardson and Weeden.

Luck had college talent. So did Peterson, Calvin Johnson, AJ Green, Drew Brees... So, what's your point?

DieHardBrownsFan

Point is that college talent is not guarantee of NFL talent dimwit.

slowburn

think i'll make my pick when the college season is over. what a concept

thenew23

@diehardbrownsfan said:
Point is that college talent is not guarantee of NFL talent dimwit.

Never said it did, but I'm pretty sure you can't draft guys based on what they are "going" to do in the NFL. So, you kinda have to go off what they did in college, right?... who's the dimwit?

Tim Couch Pulls Out

@slowburn said:
think i'll make my pick when the college season is over. what a concept

I don't think anyone is making picks now. That's just a list of people to keep your eye on, as evidenced by the line "players to keep your eye on".

I swear, some people on the forum would bitch if we signed Peyton Manning and AP because they weren't born in Cleveland.

thenew23

@tim-couch-pulls-out said:
I don't think anyone is making picks now. That's just a list of people to keep your eye on, as evidenced by the line "players to keep your eye on".

Exactly. If you watch a lot of College Football, like I do, I was just throwing some names out to possibly breed some excitement for our big moment in next year's draft. Watching the Browns this year, you can only hope to see improvement from our key young players like Skrine, Mingo, Gipson, Benjamin, Cameron, and maybe Rainey if he gets to play... Can't expect to many "W"s this year. So, you might enjoy scouting who our next QB and WR are going to be...

badbone83

what yall think about ala qb a.j

thenew23

@badbone83 said:
what yall think about ala qb a.j

Seems to have subpar arm strength and accuracy. He REALLY needs to have a great year to show he is a starter. Looks more like a Quinn/McCoy kind of guy right now... a backup