TRICH traded to colts

cuwoohio

It's simple with me. Now that Holmgren has come out so harshly against the deal, I'm all in on it even more. People don't want to come to come to games this year,

great, I'll have extra cup holders I can use.

alwardc4

@tour2ma said:

Are you saying there's something wrong with our thoughts???

haha. lets just say they are assessing without emotion getting in the way

D Bone

@alwardc4 said:
Barnwell and Simmons have good thoughts on the trade over on grantland.com

I bet most won't read that, because they can't, or won't, understand the facts. They see "a vessel... a damn fine specimen" (PoeticG) but somehow miss the putrid, stunning numbers over his entire short career with the Browns. Somehow, there is always an excuse for those horrific stats, but yet AP and MJD are both saddled with many of the same issues that our fans say are the cause for Trent's lack of production, but yet they both flourish.............Why? Because they are both superior talents, and Trent is well, ordinary, nothing special.

miktoxic

@alwardc4 said:
haha. lets just say they are assessing without emotion getting in the way

well if you don't want emotional responses you're in the wrong place.

PoeticG

I hate this. Trent was our workhorse. Traded for what will be nearly a second round pick. I want Lombardi GONE. I want Banner GONE. And if Chudzinski is as dumb as he looks for going along with trading his best player, I want him GONE as well. Do you hear me HASLAM? Do you fucking hear your fans!? Cleveland doesn't like this, and it doesn't matter WHO you pick with that pick. We wanted TRENT HERE... SMH

D Bone

G do you hear yourself? "trading his best player"....Really? So let's listen to what you said there: The Browns BEST PLAYER has career stats below the NFL's average at the position. Say again, our BEST PLAYER had stats below the average NFL RB.........No wonder we can't score a fucking TD. Our BEST PLAYER is below other teams' average player........Wow, thanks for pointing out just how screwed we really are.

PoeticG

All my Steeler friends are just shaking their heads. When the Goddamn Steelers Fans are shaking their fucking heads.... just fucking wow. We'll never recover from this until Lombardi is done. He's a joke. I could care or give a fuck less about the handful of pussies that can't take me whining about this kind of shit all the time. There are people out there that feel just like I do... as a matter of fact.

Walk down the streets of Alliance Ohio, 20 minutes NE from the Pro Football Hall of Fame and there you will find, what I describe as, Lombardi's Lobotomies. A once proud and hopeful pack of people, donning the orange and brown, fierce and determined. It's like a sergeant has been taken down right in front of us.

Where do you live? Look at where I live. I'm telling you that it's much different if you are in the North East right now. It's going to get cold soon. Cabin Fever makes us Crazy. You just pissed off a bunch of rabid Browns fans that are about to be on lockdown for a couple of months watching their runningback on another team, for another championship, while we're watching our draftpick become later and later... So quit telling me that you are an idiot and a sheep and show some balls and speak out against it. Silent voices are not heard, or even worse; misunderstood.

D Bone

Dude, if I felt that Trent was a true NFL elite RB, I would be just as angry as you.....But I don't, and he is not. If you can show me something I missed in the 17 games he played for us, I'm all yours. Show me the stats that back up your idea that Trent is elite, and no, I don't want a selfie with you in front of your poster of Trent in a thong.

PoeticG

@d-bone said:
Dude, if I felt that Trent was a true NFL elite RB, I would be just as angry as you.....But I don't, and he is not. If you can show me something I missed in the 17 games he played for us, I'm all yours. Show me the stats that back up your idea that Trent is elite, and no, I don't want a selfie with you in front of your poster of Trent in a thong.

Okay. You're on. I'll let you know that I deal in real life though and not stat lines. I go behind the lines. Give me a little bit and I'll show you what you are missing. By the way, where do you live? Is it in Ohio?

D Bone

No, SoCal. Is that somehow a problem? I'm all eyes, and willing to learn. School me.

PoeticG

I'll be back but I just found this real quick before I go...

97-year-old Browns fan reacts to trade

newsnet5.com

updated 9/20/2013 3:45:30 AM ET

Bette Mizer loves to talk with anyone about her beloved Cleveland Browns, but she's not happy about the decision to trade Trent Richardson.Mizer is 97-years-old so she has plenty of experience when it comes to dealing with the ups and downs of the brown and orange.

"We just lost Trent Richardson who we just hired this last year and he's gone far away to the Indianapolis Colts," Mizer said. Mizer, of Massillon, volunteers once a week at the Pro Football Hall of Fame in Canton. She greets visitors, asking them which NFL team is their favorite. There is no doubt which team she likes the most. Her lifelong love affair dates back more than 90 years, when at the age of 6 she started going to Browns games with her father.When the Browns won their last championship in 1964, Mizer was in the stadium.

"The mood was fantastic. Why wouldn't it be?" she said. Mizer's mood wasn't great when she learned of the Richardson trade. The running back was becoming her favorite player after the Browns didn't re-sign her previous favorite. "I always liked Phil Dawson, the kicker, but now he's gone," she said. Mizer explained that she'll always support the Browns, adding that "she's too old to change teams now. "She hopes the new regime has a plan in place to bring home a Super Bowl before she turns 100. And then, she repeated a familiar refrain known by Browns fans across the globe: "Wait until next year."

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Tour2ma

@alwardc4 said:
haha. lets just say they are assessing without emotion getting in the way

Just read the Simmons article... very good... http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/9697327/game-changers

This wowed me...

"Shouldn't it mean something that, over and over again, quality running backs have fetched relatively cheap trade packages? Justin Higdon of DraftBrowns.com defended the Richardson deal and made a shrewd point: He's the first back since Ricky Williams to fetch a first-rounder in a trade. Normally, they go for much less. St. Louis gave up a fifth- and second-rounder for Marshall Faulk. Seattle gave up a fourth and a fifth for Lynch. Indy allowed Edgerrin James to leave for nothing. Now Richardson is fetching a first-round pick? Doesn't this seem … off?"

This made me laugh out loud...

"Translation: Thanks to that trade, the Browns are officially in Drowney for Clowney AND Play Dead for Ted mode."

And this may have been as persuasive as any bit...

"And by the way, Luck continues to get creamed behind a shaky offensive line; as Barnwell pointed out on Wednesday, he's getting knocked down at a legitimately unsustainable rate. Twice as much as any other starting QB, basically. So instead of Richardson propelling them to 10 or 11 wins, there's a much better chance this trade swings the other way, with Indy missing the playoffs and maybe even losing a top-10 pick. Our friends at PredictionMachine.com simulated the 2013 season 50,000 times and earmarked the "improved" Colts for 6.5 wins, projecting that they'd be handing Cleveland the sixth pick in next April's draft."

Thanks... moving on to read the Barnwell article.

http://www.grantland.com/blog/the-triangle/post/_/id/75160/the-browns-hit-reset-again-with-an-unprecedented-trade

PoeticG

Jim Brown pours praise upon Richardson By RAY ROBINSON | 7/26/2013, midnight

Jim Brown and Trent Richardson

Trent Richardson shows spunk, spark and speed at camp

By Ray Robinson

Staff Writer

Browns running back, Trent Richardson, had eyebrows raised last year with people wondering if he was injury prone.

Richardson played hurt most of last season, and his numbers and performance suffered tremendously over what was anticipated from the then hard running rookie.

Eyebrows were raised on yesterday afternoon at the Browns training facility in Berea as Richardson showcased his wares to the media, fans and to the delightfully cheerful Browns upper management team.

His hands seemed to be spider-like as he snagged and snared the majority of the passes that were thrown in his direction.

His running appeared to be a step quicker than I remember, but, don't forget, we never really saw him play at full speed much last year because he played with broken ribs that prevented him from making hard cuts and taking the brutally hard hits that come from playing in the NFL.

Richardson admits to losing about five pounds, however, he seems to have lost a few pounds more. His physique shows it too. Although he was injured most of last year, his body was still cut and he was considered to still be in great physical condition. Now, he is ripped and ready to prove that he wasn't just a flash in the pan during his glory days in college.

Many people, including the Browns' brass, couldn't see Richardson being ready to compete at the start of training camp. Richardson, on the other hand had his mind set on being in camp, on time, in shape and ready to play at a level beyond what may have been expected of him.

He even got a ringing vote of approval from former Browns running back, Jim Brown. During a team meeting, Brown pulled Richardson in front of the room and continued to tell him how he has Browns' blessings and that he was wrong about labeling Richardson just an ordinary back, as Brown did last year.

Richardson was also spotted talking to new Browns owner, Jimmy Haslam during the practice.

"I just feel must better with my running and with my routes. I missed a lot of playing time last year, but I am here and in good shape, ready to paly some football," an excited Richardson exclaimed. " I lost weight, I'm at about 225 now. I played at 233 last year, but the ribs kept me from really digging in."

The fans loved his performance and they showed it with plenty of ohhs and ahhhs. He was mobbed by fans after he left the field. He talked with fans and signed a few autographs to boot.

PoeticG

Keep throwing out there that Jim Brown said Trent was ordinary and keep forgetting that he said he was wrong. I don't care, we know the truth.

PoeticG

lol This is from 2006... What happened THIS week in unacceptable.

DieHardBrownsFan

Lets just make a thread where PG posts replies to himself about TR and end this drivel.

PoeticG

Kosar_For_President · updated 9/20/2013 3:45:30 AM ET

@poeticg said:

I'll be back but I just found this real quick before I go...

97-year-old Browns fan reacts to trade

newsnet5.com

updated 9/20/2013 3:45:30 AM ET

Bette Mizer loves to talk with anyone about her beloved Cleveland Browns, but she's not happy about the decision to trade Trent Richardson.Mizer is 97-years-old so she has plenty of experience when it comes to dealing with the ups and downs of the brown and orange.

"We just lost Trent Richardson who we just hired this last year and he's gone far away to the Indianapolis Colts," Mizer said. Mizer, of Massillon, volunteers once a week at the Pro Football Hall of Fame in Canton. She greets visitors, asking them which NFL team is their favorite. There is no doubt which team she likes the most. Her lifelong love affair dates back more than 90 years, when at the age of 6 she started going to Browns games with her father.When the Browns won their last championship in 1964, Mizer was in the stadium.

"The mood was fantastic. Why wouldn't it be?" she said. Mizer's mood wasn't great when she learned of the Richardson trade. The running back was becoming her favorite player after the Browns didn't re-sign her previous favorite. "I always liked Phil Dawson, the kicker, but now he's gone," she said. Mizer explained that she'll always support the Browns, adding that "she's too old to change teams now. "She hopes the new regime has a plan in place to bring home a Super Bowl before she turns 100. And then, she repeated a familiar refrain known by Browns fans across the globe: "Wait until next year."

......................

She then asked what her daughters name is for the 11th time.

PoeticG

D Bone

Sorry G, I'm done. If you post a stat from the Hall of Fame to be RB that proves he is elite, then I will engage, but posting random stuff is only helping my point. Just so you know how you come off to at least me, but probably many others, is like a teenage girl who just learned that The Wanted broke up.........It's time for you to build a bridge and get over it.