TRICH traded to colts
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Dude, if I felt that Trent was a true NFL elite RB, I would be just as angry as you.....But I don't, and he is not. If you can show me something I missed in the 17 games he played for us, I'm all yours. Show me the stats that back up your idea that Trent is elite, and no, I don't want a selfie with you in front of your poster of Trent in a thong.

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Dude, if I felt that Trent was a true NFL elite RB, I would be just as angry as you.....But I don't, and he is not. If you can show me something I missed in the 17 games he played for us, I'm all yours. Show me the stats that back up your idea that Trent is elite, and no, I don't want a selfie with you in front of your poster of Trent in a thong.

Dude, if I felt that Trent was a true NFL elite RB, I would be just as angry as you.....But I don't, and he is not. If you can show me something I missed in the 17 games he played for us, I'm all yours. Show me the stats that back up your idea that Trent is elite, and no, I don't want a selfie with you in front of your poster of Trent in a thong.

Okay. You're on. I'll let you know that I deal in real life though and not stat lines. I go behind the lines. Give me a little bit and I'll show you what you are missing. By the way, where do you live? Is it in Ohio?
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I'll be back but I just found this real quick before I go...
97-year-old Browns fan reacts to trade
newsnet5.com
updated 9/20/2013 3:45:30 AM ET
Bette Mizer loves to talk with anyone about her beloved Cleveland Browns, but she's not happy about the decision to trade Trent Richardson.Mizer is 97-years-old so she has plenty of experience when it comes to dealing with the ups and downs of the brown and orange.
"We just lost Trent Richardson who we just hired this last year and he's gone far away to the Indianapolis Colts," Mizer said. Mizer, of Massillon, volunteers once a week at the Pro Football Hall of Fame in Canton. She greets visitors, asking them which NFL team is their favorite. There is no doubt which team she likes the most. Her lifelong love affair dates back more than 90 years, when at the age of 6 she started going to Browns games with her father.When the Browns won their last championship in 1964, Mizer was in the stadium.
"The mood was fantastic. Why wouldn't it be?" she said. Mizer's mood wasn't great when she learned of the Richardson trade. The running back was becoming her favorite player after the Browns didn't re-sign her previous favorite. "I always liked Phil Dawson, the kicker, but now he's gone," she said. Mizer explained that she'll always support the Browns, adding that "she's too old to change teams now. "She hopes the new regime has a plan in place to bring home a Super Bowl before she turns 100. And then, she repeated a familiar refrain known by Browns fans across the globe: "Wait until next year."
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haha. lets just say they are assessing without emotion getting in the way
Just read the Simmons article... very good... http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/9697327/game-changers
This wowed me...
"Shouldn't it mean something that, over and over again, quality running backs have fetched relatively cheap trade packages? Justin Higdon of DraftBrowns.com defended the Richardson deal and made a shrewd point: He's the first back since Ricky Williams to fetch a first-rounder in a trade. Normally, they go for much less. St. Louis gave up a fifth- and second-rounder for Marshall Faulk. Seattle gave up a fourth and a fifth for Lynch. Indy allowed Edgerrin James to leave for nothing. Now Richardson is fetching a first-round pick? Doesn't this seem … off?"
This made me laugh out loud...
"Translation: Thanks to that trade, the Browns are officially in Drowney for Clowney AND Play Dead for Ted mode."
And this may have been as persuasive as any bit...
"And by the way, Luck continues to get creamed behind a shaky offensive line; as Barnwell pointed out on Wednesday, he's getting knocked down at a legitimately unsustainable rate. Twice as much as any other starting QB, basically. So instead of Richardson propelling them to 10 or 11 wins, there's a much better chance this trade swings the other way, with Indy missing the playoffs and maybe even losing a top-10 pick. Our friends at PredictionMachine.com simulated the 2013 season 50,000 times and earmarked the "improved" Colts for 6.5 wins, projecting that they'd be handing Cleveland the sixth pick in next April's draft."
Thanks... moving on to read the Barnwell article.
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Jim Brown pours praise upon Richardson By RAY ROBINSON | 7/26/2013, midnight
Trent Richardson shows spunk, spark and speed at camp
By Ray Robinson
Staff Writer
Browns running back, Trent Richardson, had eyebrows raised last year with people wondering if he was injury prone.
Richardson played hurt most of last season, and his numbers and performance suffered tremendously over what was anticipated from the then hard running rookie.
Eyebrows were raised on yesterday afternoon at the Browns training facility in Berea as Richardson showcased his wares to the media, fans and to the delightfully cheerful Browns upper management team.
His hands seemed to be spider-like as he snagged and snared the majority of the passes that were thrown in his direction.
His running appeared to be a step quicker than I remember, but, don't forget, we never really saw him play at full speed much last year because he played with broken ribs that prevented him from making hard cuts and taking the brutally hard hits that come from playing in the NFL.
Richardson admits to losing about five pounds, however, he seems to have lost a few pounds more. His physique shows it too. Although he was injured most of last year, his body was still cut and he was considered to still be in great physical condition. Now, he is ripped and ready to prove that he wasn't just a flash in the pan during his glory days in college.
Many people, including the Browns' brass, couldn't see Richardson being ready to compete at the start of training camp. Richardson, on the other hand had his mind set on being in camp, on time, in shape and ready to play at a level beyond what may have been expected of him.
He even got a ringing vote of approval from former Browns running back, Jim Brown. During a team meeting, Brown pulled Richardson in front of the room and continued to tell him how he has Browns' blessings and that he was wrong about labeling Richardson just an ordinary back, as Brown did last year.
Richardson was also spotted talking to new Browns owner, Jimmy Haslam during the practice.
"I just feel must better with my running and with my routes. I missed a lot of playing time last year, but I am here and in good shape, ready to paly some football," an excited Richardson exclaimed. " I lost weight, I'm at about 225 now. I played at 233 last year, but the ribs kept me from really digging in."
The fans loved his performance and they showed it with plenty of ohhs and ahhhs. He was mobbed by fans after he left the field. He talked with fans and signed a few autographs to boot.
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Lets just make a thread where PG posts replies to himself about TR and end this drivel.
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I'll be back but I just found this real quick before I go...
97-year-old Browns fan reacts to trade
newsnet5.com
updated 9/20/2013 3:45:30 AM ET
Bette Mizer loves to talk with anyone about her beloved Cleveland Browns, but she's not happy about the decision to trade Trent Richardson.Mizer is 97-years-old so she has plenty of experience when it comes to dealing with the ups and downs of the brown and orange.
"We just lost Trent Richardson who we just hired this last year and he's gone far away to the Indianapolis Colts," Mizer said. Mizer, of Massillon, volunteers once a week at the Pro Football Hall of Fame in Canton. She greets visitors, asking them which NFL team is their favorite. There is no doubt which team she likes the most. Her lifelong love affair dates back more than 90 years, when at the age of 6 she started going to Browns games with her father.When the Browns won their last championship in 1964, Mizer was in the stadium.
"The mood was fantastic. Why wouldn't it be?" she said. Mizer's mood wasn't great when she learned of the Richardson trade. The running back was becoming her favorite player after the Browns didn't re-sign her previous favorite. "I always liked Phil Dawson, the kicker, but now he's gone," she said. Mizer explained that she'll always support the Browns, adding that "she's too old to change teams now. "She hopes the new regime has a plan in place to bring home a Super Bowl before she turns 100. And then, she repeated a familiar refrain known by Browns fans across the globe: "Wait until next year."
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I'll be back but I just found this real quick before I go...
97-year-old Browns fan reacts to trade
newsnet5.com
updated 9/20/2013 3:45:30 AM ET
Bette Mizer loves to talk with anyone about her beloved Cleveland Browns, but she's not happy about the decision to trade Trent Richardson.Mizer is 97-years-old so she has plenty of experience when it comes to dealing with the ups and downs of the brown and orange.
"We just lost Trent Richardson who we just hired this last year and he's gone far away to the Indianapolis Colts," Mizer said. Mizer, of Massillon, volunteers once a week at the Pro Football Hall of Fame in Canton. She greets visitors, asking them which NFL team is their favorite. There is no doubt which team she likes the most. Her lifelong love affair dates back more than 90 years, when at the age of 6 she started going to Browns games with her father.When the Browns won their last championship in 1964, Mizer was in the stadium.
"The mood was fantastic. Why wouldn't it be?" she said. Mizer's mood wasn't great when she learned of the Richardson trade. The running back was becoming her favorite player after the Browns didn't re-sign her previous favorite. "I always liked Phil Dawson, the kicker, but now he's gone," she said. Mizer explained that she'll always support the Browns, adding that "she's too old to change teams now. "She hopes the new regime has a plan in place to bring home a Super Bowl before she turns 100. And then, she repeated a familiar refrain known by Browns fans across the globe: "Wait until next year."
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She then asked what her daughters name is for the 11th time.
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Sorry G, I'm done. If you post a stat from the Hall of Fame to be RB that proves he is elite, then I will engage, but posting random stuff is only helping my point. Just so you know how you come off to at least me, but probably many others, is like a teenage girl who just learned that The Wanted broke up.........It's time for you to build a bridge and get over it.
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Like I posted in another thread Emitt Smith, Bettis, Walter Payton, Marshall Faulk, Thurman Thomas didnt sniff 4.0ypc their first year. Hell Faulk avg 3.0ypc his 3rd season. Ypc is overblown. How many goaline and short yardage carries did Trent have? Trent is getting the blame because this FO failed to get players that could run block, get any weapons at wr to help the qb and take attention away from Trent. They also failed to put a winning team on the field. None of which was Trents fault. Dont give me a gm, coach needs 3 years b.s. That doesnt happen in the NFL anymore. And this is not about a qb either. Trent complained about the game planning so he was dealt. Simple, End of story. They will lose the locker room and in 2 years Browns will do it all over again. New coach, New gm all of it.
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2013 is now a throw away year...
I don't know about that. I am not a Browns fan but I had to say this. I don't think this trade is the end of the season. Someone mentioned that the Browns are now at the bottom with Jacksonville and Oakland but I don't agree. First, neither of those teams has Cleveland's defense. If the Browns start dismantling the defense and trading the likes of Haden then yes 2013 has been thrown away but until that happens Cleveland has a chance to still finish in the middle. Which ironically would kill their chance at a guy like Teddy but the Browns aren't dead and broken. McGahee is actually probably a short term improvement over TRich. And you still have Cameron and Gordon on offense. Sure they want to see what Hoyer can do but I will tell you as a Pats fan, he isn't that good. Weeden is easily the better QB. Now the Browns are in a tough situation here, if they want to go with Hoyer and improve their chances at losing then that will help them get worse but it will be at the expense of being able to get something for Weeden, which I am sure they could. If they do play Weeden and McGahee rushes for more than 3.5 yards per carry they may actually win more games. Trading Richardson is not the death knell that some may think. Just my opinion.
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