Gordon has to be untouchable, he's too good of a football player to just trade away.
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people were ready to jump off bridges last Thursday at the TR trade news - I'm beginning to think that maybe we should trade him away despite him being the best route runner we have. No shit messaging to the squad, this is a team, no weak links allowed - Josh well done son but you don't fit the mould here. Not saying yeah let's do it - but if he gets busted again, the hurt is far worse. I think I'm with Balpeen on this one.
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The Browns need to keep Gordon. He's said all the right things that make me think he has or sincerely wants to turn a corner, and his play on Sunday ought to be evidence of that. He's on record saying he wanted to have a big game to make up for his past mistakes, and nothing talks like a W. My only concern now is the Front Office will think that the game just drove his value up and try to get more out of a trade for him. Little can go as far as I'm concerned, but just hire a personal assistant for Gordon to keep his nose clean.
"I said, 'I need someone who's going to want to get on the roller coaster with me knowing that it's not always going to be fun,'" -Paul DePodesta -
I'm for keeping him on a short leash with the knowledge that if he fucks up again he could ruin his career. He definitely is worth a gamble IMO.
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That's it. Lets trade our truly best player. Lets have almost 0 weapons on offense and keep losing games for a higher draft pick. Gordon is legit. You don't trade away a legit #1 wr when you have garbage for #2 - #10!
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Despite his issues in college, I liked the pick. And so far he hasn't proven me wrong. Besides, he got popped for weed in college, which IMO shouldn't be illegal anyway! But that is a whole other topic!
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I like Gordon, but he is a "me" player who doesn't really think about his team. He has enough violations with drugs that I have no condifence he can stay clean. I would be in favor of another team riding out his one year suspension and us take a nice pick for him.
That is what this is all about. It isn't his play. I am sure all in Berea like that. It's about not having confidence in the guy when he is off the field.
I like Gordon, but he is a "me" player who doesn't really think about his team. He has enough violations with drugs that I have no condifence he can stay clean. I would be in favor of another team riding out his one year suspension and us take a nice pick for him.
That is what this is all about. It isn't his play. I am sure all in Berea like that. It's about not having confidence in the guy when he is off the field.
Who cares? This is football, not everyone is gonna be some selfless guy who lives for the locker room.
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I really fear this guy is going to mess up again, but he's too valuable a player on a talent starved team to trade. I also really don't think we'd get fair value at this point in his career for what he brings to the team. Didn't Brandon Marshall go for a 3rd? I'd be shocked if any team is offering higher than a 3rd right now and that would be really, really dumb.
If they really are shopping Little though, please Jesus do so. Bess is an excellent 3rd down guy and I'd be happy to see what a Gurley/Cooper guy can do.
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3rd/4th round for Little and he's gone. He's a good downfield blocker, but that doesn't mean shit if you can't catch the thing. trade him and bring back Gurley.
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The Browns need to keep Gordon. He's said all the right things that make me think he has or sincerely wants to turn a corner, and his play on Sunday ought to be evidence of that. He's on record saying he wanted to have a big game to make up for his past mistakes, and nothing talks like a W. My only concern now is the Front Office will think that the game just drove his value up and try to get more out of a trade for him. Little can go as far as I'm concerned, but just hire a personal assistant for Gordon to keep his nose clean.
The Browns need to keep Gordon. He's said all the right things that make me think he has or sincerely wants to turn a corner, and his play on Sunday ought to be evidence of that. He's on record saying he wanted to have a big game to make up for his past mistakes, and nothing talks like a W. My only concern now is the Front Office will think that the game just drove his value up and try to get more out of a trade for him. Little can go as far as I'm concerned, but just hire a personal assistant for Gordon to keep his nose clean.
People with substance abuse issues ALWAYS say all the right things. They are master manipulators. Having said that I really want us to keep Josh Gordon. Think back long ago to another WR from the supplemental draft. He had drug issues and was gone from the team that drafted him. He went on to be a hall of famer that being Cris Carter.
Make sure he is in a program. Do weekly internal piss tests and hire a mentor.
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The Browns need to keep Gordon. He's said all the right things that make me think he has or sincerely wants to turn a corner, and his play on Sunday ought to be evidence of that. He's on record saying he wanted to have a big game to make up for his past mistakes, and nothing talks like a W. My only concern now is the Front Office will think that the game just drove his value up and try to get more out of a trade for him. Little can go as far as I'm concerned, but just hire a personal assistant for Gordon to keep his nose clean.
People with substance abuse issues ALWAYS say all the right things. They are master manipulators. Having said that I really want us to keep Josh Gordon. Think back long ago to another WR from the supplemental draft. He had drug issues and was gone from the team that drafted him. He went on to be a hall of famer that being Cris Carter.
Make sure he is in a program. Do weekly internal piss tests and hire a mentor.
People with substance abuse issues ALWAYS say all the right things ( that is based on personal experience as both the abuser in the past as well as having a loved on abusing) They are master manipulators. Having said that I really want us to keep Josh Gordon. Think back long ago to another WR from the supplemental draft. He had drug issues and was gone from the team that drafted him. He went on to be a hall of famer that being Cris Carter.
Make sure he is in a program. Do weekly internal piss tests and hire a mentor.
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Daily piss tests, and make sure that mentor is big enough to actually stop him! How much to get Vin Diesel to be The Babysitter in real life for 10 years?
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We better not trade Gordon. That's all..
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I like Gordon, but he is a "me" player who doesn't really think about his team. He has enough violations with drugs that I have no condifence he can stay clean. I would be in favor of another team riding out his one year suspension and us take a nice pick for him.
That is what this is all about. It isn't his play. I am sure all in Berea like that. It's about not having confidence in the guy when he is off the field.
Who cares? This is football, not everyone is gonna be some selfless guy who lives for the locker room.
Who cares? This is football, not everyone is gonna be some selfless guy who lives for the locker room.
I understand that. The problem is his actions hurt the team this year. As far as i am concerned we lost those two games because of him.
I don't think he tries to be a screw up. It just happens. Hangs with the boy's, forgets what he is doing, smokes a little of this or that.
If the guy didn't have a history, no way I'd trade him. He is a super player. Based on his previous actions, I don't want to gamble on him. Face it, if he screws up again it is a year off. We will simply cut him. I would rather some other team have to face that reality.
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Josh Gordon needs an accountabilibuddy.
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I am not his judge but it is safe to assume Josh Gordon has a substance abuse issue. Read = addict. The only thing that will help Josh is to admit it and work a program. Millions of dollars, babysitters, threats etc will not work. If he doesn't address his addictive behavior it isn't a question of if he will fail but when. I hope he can get it, many don't. I was fortunate enough to 25 years ago but I know many who weren't.
For those of you who think he sounds sincere and contrite please roll back the tapes to his post draft interviews. He was "sincere" and had moved beyond his off field issues then as well. Want to know how to tell when a substance abuser is lying?? his lips move
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Who cares? This is football, not everyone is gonna be some selfless guy who lives for the locker room.
I understand that. The problem is his actions hurt the team this year. As far as i am concerned we lost those two games because of him.
I don't think he tries to be a screw up. It just happens. Hangs with the boy's, forgets what he is doing, smokes a little of this or that.
If the guy didn't have a history, no way I'd trade him. He is a super player. Based on his previous actions, I don't want to gamble on him. Face it, if he screws up again it is a year off. We will simply cut him. I would rather some other team have to face that reality.
I understand that. The problem is his actions hurt the team this year. As far as i am concerned we lost those two games because of him.
I don't think he tries to be a screw up. It just happens. Hangs with the boy's, forgets what he is doing, smokes a little of this or that.
If the guy didn't have a history, no way I'd trade him. He is a super player. Based on his previous actions, I don't want to gamble on him. Face it, if he screws up again it is a year off. We will simply cut him. I would rather some other team have to face that reality.
'Peen- I understand your concern- but we have to roll the dice on this guy. Right now, he's our only legit offensive threat. As others have said we wouldn't get fair value in a trade on top of it. You think the Broncos should trade Von Miller because he has drug issues?
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Yesterday had to be his best game so far. His jump from year 1 to 2 is impressive. Really smooth routes and with ball
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he should just do coke, only stays in your system for 3 days, unlike weed stays in your body for at least a month.
i really doubt someone that puffs a little weed now and then is considered an addict.
yet thee that cast the first stone....................
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Chud just stated in an interview that no plans are in motion to trade Gordon or even Little
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he should just do coke, only stays in your system for 3 days, unlike weed stays in your body for at least a month.
i really doubt someone that puffs a little weed now and then is considered an addict.
yet thee that cast the first stone....................
he should just do coke, only stays in your system for 3 days, unlike weed stays in your body for at least a month.
i really doubt someone that puffs a little weed now and then is considered an addict.
yet thee that cast the first stone....................
Ya genius, just do coke so your heart can fucking explode and you become a paranoid fuck who stays up all night ranting and raving. Oh, sorry...........
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