Gordon has to be untouchable, he's too good of a football player to just trade away.
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he should just do coke, only stays in your system for 3 days, unlike weed stays in your body for at least a month.
i really doubt someone that puffs a little weed now and then is considered an addict.
yet thee that cast the first stone....................
he should just do coke, only stays in your system for 3 days, unlike weed stays in your body for at least a month.
i really doubt someone that puffs a little weed now and then is considered an addict.
yet thee that cast the first stone....................
Ya genius, just do coke so your heart can fucking explode and you become a paranoid fuck who stays up all night ranting and raving. Oh, sorry...........
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HA!
good one. no man those days are long gone.
i only did that crap back in the day so it would keep me awake so i could drink more. now i don't need that waste of money. got a great tolerance for booze. must be the excellent diet i'm on.
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Ha ha. I know, believe me.
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Who cares? This is football, not everyone is gonna be some selfless guy who lives for the locker room.
I understand that. The problem is his actions hurt the team this year. As far as i am concerned we lost those two games because of him.
I don't think he tries to be a screw up. It just happens. Hangs with the boy's, forgets what he is doing, smokes a little of this or that.
If the guy didn't have a history, no way I'd trade him. He is a super player. Based on his previous actions, I don't want to gamble on him. Face it, if he screws up again it is a year off. We will simply cut him. I would rather some other team have to face that reality.
I understand that. The problem is his actions hurt the team this year. As far as i am concerned we lost those two games because of him.
I don't think he tries to be a screw up. It just happens. Hangs with the boy's, forgets what he is doing, smokes a little of this or that.
If the guy didn't have a history, no way I'd trade him. He is a super player. Based on his previous actions, I don't want to gamble on him. Face it, if he screws up again it is a year off. We will simply cut him. I would rather some other team have to face that reality.
And we get a fourth rounder and a hole at WR which is unlikely to be filled? No, taking risks is something you have to do in the NFL.
Look at Honey Badger ballin', look at Vontaze Burfict as a productive player on a playoff caliber team(on pace for 150 tackles), look at all the NFL players who succeeded because a team stuck with him.
Gordon needs our faith in him as much as we need his talent.
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HA!
good one. no man those days are long gone.
i only did that crap back in the day so it would keep me awake so i could drink more. now i don't need that waste of money. got a great tolerance for booze. must be the excellent diet i'm on.
booze.HA!
good one. no man those days are long gone.
i only did that crap back in the day so it would keep me awake so i could drink more. now i don't need that waste of money. got a great tolerance for booze. must be the excellent diet i'm on.
booze.
Been there, done that and paid the $28K rehab bill lol. Mik I would agree that someone who smokes a little weed from time to time doesn't qualify as an addict. It really isn't even as much what they do as opposed to the results of what they do.I'd say its safe to assume that somewhere between the weed and the codeine Josh has seen a few other substances as well. Someone with a golden ticket like Josh that fails multiple tests in college, multiple tests in the NFL and is risking his income and quality of life for it.......thats a different story. Anyone who takes those kind of risks over and over despite the fact they risk losing millions of dollars isnt just stupid. It is close to impossible to be that stupid. He simply is out of control.
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So he's an addict cuz he smokes cannabis? Some people need a reality check. Alcohol is far more dangerous...
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So he's an addict cuz he smokes cannabis? Some people need a reality check. Alcohol is far more dangerous...
So he's an addict cuz he smokes cannabis? Some people need a reality check. Alcohol is far more dangerous...
I would bet that almost half the league smokes weed occasionally. They are just smart enough to not get caught.
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So he's an addict cuz he smokes cannabis? Some people need a reality check. Alcohol is far more dangerous...
I would bet that almost half the league smokes weed occasionally. They are just smart enough to not get caught.
I would bet that almost half the league smokes weed occasionally. They are just smart enough to not get caught.
Are the Broncos and Seahawks allowed in their home states now?
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It's probably still against league policy.
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Wasn't he suspended for not officially going through the NFL, notifying them of his prescription for medicine with codeine in it?
That's the story anyway.
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I think it's going to be tough for any FO to offer fair market value for Gordon with his baggage. His positive piss tests and other travails are just the tip of the iceberg in a substance abusing lifestyle. I hope he is able to keep his shit in one sock but the odds are against him. The Browns will be his home for the long or short term. He has the skills to help the Browns win games but the real struggle for him will be off the field.
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So he's an addict cuz he smokes cannabis? Some people need a reality check. Alcohol is far more dangerous...
So he's an addict cuz he smokes cannabis? Some people need a reality check. Alcohol is far more dangerous...
Try reading my post. I think its pretty clear i understand smoking weed once and awhile isn't indicative of being an addict. As I said its not as much what you do its what the results. If you ate nuts and they put you in the hospital with a severe allergic reaction it can happen. If you did it several more times despite knowing the risk you likely have some friggin issues.
Not being able to follow the rules as it relates to cannabis and risking million dollar salaries YES that would indicate addictive behavior or pure stupidity you choose. I will take a wild guess that maybe you enjoy it occasionally (just a guess not an indictment). If I am right could you refrain from it in order to protect a million dollars?
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I understand that. The problem is his actions hurt the team this year. As far as i am concerned we lost those two games because of him.
I don't think he tries to be a screw up. It just happens. Hangs with the boy's, forgets what he is doing, smokes a little of this or that.
If the guy didn't have a history, no way I'd trade him. He is a super player. Based on his previous actions, I don't want to gamble on him. Face it, if he screws up again it is a year off. We will simply cut him. I would rather some other team have to face that reality.
'Peen- I understand your concern- but we have to roll the dice on this guy. Right now, he's our only legit offensive threat. As others have said we wouldn't get fair value in a trade on top of it. You think the Broncos should trade Von Miller because he has drug issues?
'Peen- I understand your concern- but we have to roll the dice on this guy. Right now, he's our only legit offensive threat. As others have said we wouldn't get fair value in a trade on top of it. You think the Broncos should trade Von Miller because he has drug issues?
I don't give a shit about the Broncos, they can do what they want....I only care about the Browns.
I am not saying i know the right course. All I am saying is i would ship him for the right offer.
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Wasn't he suspended for not officially going through the NFL, notifying them of his prescription for medicine with codeine in it?
He failed drug tests TWICE last year. The first is not made public and carries a warning and some counseling. The second is a four game suspension. Because he did have a doctors prescription it was reduced to two games. If he had reported the prescription to the league when it was given he would have been clear.
It is also safe to assume the doc was a "friend" of Josh's. Unless its just me I have actually had strep about 7 times and have never been prescribed codeine cough syrup.
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'Peen- I understand your concern- but we have to roll the dice on this guy. Right now, he's our only legit offensive threat. As others have said we wouldn't get fair value in a trade on top of it. You think the Broncos should trade Von Miller because he has drug issues?
I don't give a shit about the Broncos, they can do what they want....I only care about the Browns.
I am not saying i know the right course. All I am saying is i would ship him for the right offer.
I don't give a shit about the Broncos, they can do what they want....I only care about the Browns.
I am not saying i know the right course. All I am saying is i would ship him for the right offer.
I totally get the concern. Hell there is a high probability he will be an issue. We will never however get anywhere near his talent value in trade. He is a first round talent. I think you have to roll the dice
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So he's an addict cuz he smokes cannabis? Some people need a reality check. Alcohol is far more dangerous...
So he's an addict cuz he smokes cannabis? Some people need a reality check. Alcohol is far more dangerous...
You can be addicted to anything. Doesn't have to be dangerous.
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Wasn't he suspended for not officially going through the NFL, notifying them of his prescription for medicine with codeine in it?
He failed drug tests TWICE last year. The first is not made public and carries a warning and some counseling. The second is a four game suspension. Because he did have a doctors prescription it was reduced to two games. If he had reported the prescription to the league when it was given he would have been clear.
It is also safe to assume the doc was a "friend" of Josh's. Unless its just me I have actually had strep about 7 times and have never been prescribed codeine cough syrup.
He failed drug tests TWICE last year. The first is not made public and carries a warning and some counseling. The second is a four game suspension. Because he did have a doctors prescription it was reduced to two games. If he had reported the prescription to the league when it was given he would have been clear.
It is also safe to assume the doc was a "friend" of Josh's. Unless its just me I have actually had strep about 7 times and have never been prescribed codeine cough syrup.
He said it was medicine with codeine in it.
Let's not act like Josh Gordon is getting DUI's and fighting in night clubs.
If he doesn't learn, we cut him loose..and if he does..we have a possible Top 10 WR in the league.
I take that risk 10 out of 10 times if that's my reward.
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Wasn't he suspended for not officially going through the NFL, notifying them of his prescription for medicine with codeine in it?
He failed drug tests TWICE last year. The first is not made public and carries a warning and some counseling. The second is a four game suspension. Because he did have a doctors prescription it was reduced to two games. If he had reported the prescription to the league when it was given he would have been clear.
It is also safe to assume the doc was a "friend" of Josh's. Unless its just me I have actually had strep about 7 times and have never been prescribed codeine cough syrup.
He failed drug tests TWICE last year. The first is not made public and carries a warning and some counseling. The second is a four game suspension. Because he did have a doctors prescription it was reduced to two games. If he had reported the prescription to the league when it was given he would have been clear.
It is also safe to assume the doc was a "friend" of Josh's. Unless its just me I have actually had strep about 7 times and have never been prescribed codeine cough syrup.
I'm pretty sure the failed tests were while he was still under College rules and not an NFLer yet, otherwise he'd have been out some games like Haden was.
I've had Codeine Cough syrup prescribed a few times for a cough, probably more of a Doctors' preference in how they treat or how bad it (cough) is.
This last issue doesn't concern me as bad since the NFL actually reduced the penalty, but Josh not reporting or going through the proper channels is more of a concern.
Of course he was a Rookie and came in late (Supplemental Draft), so he didn't get the Rookie orientation like the other Rookies.
Still, I can see concern, but there also seem to be circumstances.
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He failed drug tests TWICE last year. The first is not made public and carries a warning and some counseling. The second is a four game suspension. Because he did have a doctors prescription it was reduced to two games. If he had reported the prescription to the league when it was given he would have been clear.
It is also safe to assume the doc was a "friend" of Josh's. Unless its just me I have actually had strep about 7 times and have never been prescribed codeine cough syrup.
He said it was medicine with codeine in it.
Let's not act like Josh Gordon is getting DUI's and fighting in night clubs.
If he doesn't learn, we cut him loose..and if he does..we have a possible Top 10 WR in the league.
I take that risk 10 out of 10 times if that's my reward.
He said it was medicine with codeine in it.
Let's not act like Josh Gordon is getting DUI's and fighting in night clubs.
If he doesn't learn, we cut him loose..and if he does..we have a possible Top 10 WR in the league.
I take that risk 10 out of 10 times if that's my reward.
Very good point. It's not like he has the "Thug" attitude. Hell, some teams stick with knife murderers!
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