Why Do Some People Hype Up Hoyer?
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This administration is over Weeden. I don't give a shit how much Chud or anybody else tries to deny it.
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Bottom line on Couch: stupid. Good old-fashioned stupid. I wanted so badly for him to be good but he just didn't have it between the ears. The shoulder was almost merciful.
I'm a big believer in a quarterback with presence, a guy who at least SEEMS smart. Obviously Brady, Manning, Brees, and Rodgers all seem like the smartest guys in the room and I think other players want that. Freeman's super smart but also comes off "soft" and disengaged. RG3 is smart AND a fiery competitor. Russell Wilson seems like he's just about to teach an AP Econ class and I think his teammates probably dig that. Ryan Tannehill had like a 3.7 and a 33 on the Wonderlic, has a casual confidence but is becoming more assertive (or so I've read).
Best comparison: E.J. V. Geno. Geno has a lot of trouble expressing himself. E.J. has the bearings of a 30-year-old man, an alpha confidence that blew people away in interviews and made him the top quarterback in the draft (which nobody could have predicted five months earlier).
Yeah, that's one of my problems with Weeds. He comes off as a gee-shucks "slinger," as he calls himself. Not hyper-focused or intense, the Anti-Manning. Anybody envision him going off like Tom Brady does, let alone Marino or Unitas? Or Sipe?
I don't know enough about Hoyer yet but Gordon said he's way more intense.
Bottom line on Couch: stupid. Good old-fashioned stupid. I wanted so badly for him to be good but he just didn't have it between the ears. The shoulder was almost merciful.
I'm a big believer in a quarterback with presence, a guy who at least SEEMS smart. Obviously Brady, Manning, Brees, and Rodgers all seem like the smartest guys in the room and I think other players want that. Freeman's super smart but also comes off "soft" and disengaged. RG3 is smart AND a fiery competitor. Russell Wilson seems like he's just about to teach an AP Econ class and I think his teammates probably dig that. Ryan Tannehill had like a 3.7 and a 33 on the Wonderlic, has a casual confidence but is becoming more assertive (or so I've read).
Best comparison: E.J. V. Geno. Geno has a lot of trouble expressing himself. E.J. has the bearings of a 30-year-old man, an alpha confidence that blew people away in interviews and made him the top quarterback in the draft (which nobody could have predicted five months earlier).
Yeah, that's one of my problems with Weeds. He comes off as a gee-shucks "slinger," as he calls himself. Not hyper-focused or intense, the Anti-Manning. Anybody envision him going off like Tom Brady does, let alone Marino or Unitas? Or Sipe?
I don't know enough about Hoyer yet but Gordon said he's way more intense.
then i guess you hated DA and brady queef, cuz tim couch had more talent and more between the ears than they did.....just no OLine in front of him.
period. nuff said.
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Anderson's a fucking moron. He got like a 16 on his Wonderlic just to prove it. Brady Quinn is a moderately intelligent person who went to an actual accredited university (Couch went to Kentucky) and got a so-so 28 on the Wonderlic. He's not a rocket scientist but he isn't stupid.
I think Couch got a 22, to be serious. He's not Retarded... he just isn't super bright. And I thought he had good but not great arm talent and decent wheels. He was way overdrafted but I thought he could've been good. I pulled for him.
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Anderson's a fucking moron. He got like a 16 on his Wonderlic just to prove it. Brady Quinn is a moderately intelligent person who went to an actual accredited university (Couch went to Kentucky) and got a so-so 28 on the Wonderlic. He's not a rocket scientist but he isn't stupid.
I think Couch got a 22, to be serious. He's not Retarded... he just isn't super bright. And I thought he had good but not great arm talent and decent wheels. He was way overdrafted but I thought he could've been good. I pulled for him.
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The team we had in 1999 was a joke. If Couch had been smart he would have refused to play here like Elway did with the then Baltimore Colts.
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The team we had in 1999 was a joke. If Couch had been smart he would have refused to play here like Elway did with the then Baltimore Colts.
What a douche move that was....and Eli too for that matter. If I was the Colts (or Chargers) GM I woulda drafted em and tested their word. Make em go play baseball or sit out if they think they can pick n choose where they play like they're any more important than any other rookie.The team we had in 1999 was a joke. If Couch had been smart he would have refused to play here like Elway did with the then Baltimore Colts.
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I've seen several on here bring up Horton's thoughts on Hoyer.
This came out today:
Browns defensive coordinator Ray Horton is familiar with quarterback Brian Hoyer because they were both with the Arizona Cardinals last season. So Horton was not surprised that Hoyer led the Browns to their first victory of the season Sunday by throwing the game-winning touchdown pass to tight end Jordan Cameron with 51 seconds left.
“I saw him in practice and the first pass in Arizona was amazing what he threw,” Horton said. “He threw a crossing route right over my head that had zip, velocity, accuracy.
“Brian’s a leader. He’s very calm under pressure. He understands defenses. He’s smart. He’s mobile. He knows where to go with the ball. We embrace him. The defense loved that he was out there throwing the ball around. I’m sure Jordan Cameron and Josh Gordon loved him last week. We love Brian.”
Here's link with some Lauvao and other Team updates :
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This administration is over Weeden. I don't give a shit how much Chud or anybody else tries to deny it.
This administration is over Weeden. I don't give a shit how much Chud or anybody else tries to deny it.
Amen. If they thought Weeden had a prayer of being a Franchise guy- they never would have traded Richardson. Soooo obvious- that move was made to obtain the ammunition necessary to move into the top 5 next year to land "The Guy". Now if Hoyer shocks us and the world- we're in great position to shore up any weak links in the team.
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Because the Hoyer TEAR DOWN, is what this board lives for....
movin on!
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don't get you. if the kid wins......we might have something. if not throw weeden back in and see if his 'benching' actually might have woken him up.
if not lombanner will throw 4 picks at movin up to draft 'their' guy.
lord help us all.
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Because the Hoyer TEAR DOWN, is what this board lives for....
movin on!
??????????????????
don't get you. if the kid wins......we might have something. if not throw weeden back in and see if his 'benching' actually might have woken him up.
if not lombanner will throw 4 picks at movin up to draft 'their' guy.
lord help us all.
If neither do good we'll be pickin top 6 again and probably won't need to move up.??????????????????
don't get you. if the kid wins......we might have something. if not throw weeden back in and see if his 'benching' actually might have woken him up.
if not lombanner will throw 4 picks at movin up to draft 'their' guy.
lord help us all.
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This administration is over Weeden. I don't give a shit how much Chud or anybody else tries to deny it.
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If neither do good we'll be pickin top 6 again and probably won't need to move up.??????????????????
don't get you. if the kid wins......we might have something. if not throw weeden back in and see if his 'benching' actually might have woken him up.
if not lombanner will throw 4 picks at movin up to draft 'their' guy.
lord help us all.
XxDaBuckeyexX said:
If neither do good we'll be pickin top 6 again and probably won't need to move up.
kinda saying they don't want to take a chance and miss their RG3 like the holmgren FO did.
a jump from a six pickk to #1 is going to cost. but hey we gotta great track record of moving up and picking guys.
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The QB draft class looks good. I'm not much of a fan for breaking the bank on these running QBs. It hasn't worked out well for the Redskins. I can understand trading some picks for a big pocket passes, but it's too dangerous to spend the majority of picks on a scrambler that will more than likely get injured.
Depending on our draft pick, i'd rather just take what's available at QB. Hopefully Hoyer lights it up and we don't need to worry about drafting a QB so high. I'm just hoping to see improvement on his mistakes. But I liked what I saw out of him.
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^yes. 100%
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I don't wanna expose a QB to 200 runs a year either. Here and there, like Chud did with Cam, that's cool. It's best for turning a broken pocket into an 8-yard gain, which Aaron Rodgers does so well (and now Tannehill).
But most of these guys we're talking about are passers who can run (Bridgewater, Hundley, and Boyd especially). Yeah, Manziel runs around a lot and so does Mariota, but any coach who isn't Chip Kelly is going to take care of his guy.
I think RG3 is gonna be fine. He'll run less but the kid has insane arm talent, too. And every single intangible you could ever dream of, really. He was better than Luck last year and I think he'll be better than Luck over the long haul, too. I like Luck... but I think he's a bit overrated.
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I don't wanna expose a QB to 200 runs a year either. Here and there, like Chud did with Cam, that's cool. It's best for turning a broken pocket into an 8-yard gain, which Aaron Rodgers does so well (and now Tannehill).
But most of these guys we're talking about are passers who can run (Bridgewater, Hundley, and Boyd especially). Yeah, Manziel runs around a lot and so does Mariota, but any coach who isn't Chip Kelly is going to take care of his guy.
I think RG3 is gonna be fine. He'll run less but the kid has insane arm talent, too. And every single intangible you could ever dream of, really. He was better than Luck last year and I think he'll be better than Luck over the long haul, too. I like Luck... but I think he's a bit overrated.
I don't wanna expose a QB to 200 runs a year either. Here and there, like Chud did with Cam, that's cool. It's best for turning a broken pocket into an 8-yard gain, wh ich Aaron Rodgers does so well (and now Tannehill).
But most of these guys we're talking about are passers who can run (Bridgewater, Hundley, and Boyd especially). Yeah, Manziel runs around a lot and so does Mariota, but any coach who isn't Chip Kelly is going to take care of his guy.
I think RG3 is gonna be fine. He'll run less but the kid has insane arm talent, too. And every single intangible you could ever dream of, really. He was better than Luck last year and I think he'll be better than Luck over the long haul, too. I like Luck... but I think he's a bit overrated.
I have a gut feeling rg3 is going down early and a lot of people will look at him and wonder what might have been.
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very talented but has made bad PR decisions which makes him come off as a diva. has his brother and father talking shit to the media. does the worse subway commercials and was all that anyone talked about preseason.
just keep your mouth shut and do your freakin job. believe me washington has more problems than their QB play. someone tell me again how once you draft your franchise QB how you automatically make it to the superbowl?
washington will be lucky to win more games than the browns this year.
btw, anyone see the new home page here? doesn't that photo of hoyer sorta remind you of kaepernik? (yeahi know it's a stretch but give a dude something to cling to!)
and to the question why is everyone hyping up hoyer......who else is there to hype up? we got thomas mack haden gordon some good DE talent other than that who do we have to 'hype' up?
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The QB draft class looks good. I'm not much of a fan for breaking the bank on these running QBs. It hasn't worked out well for the Redskins. I can understand trading some picks for a big pocket passes, but it's too dangerous to spend the majority of picks on a scrambler that will more than likely get injured.
Depending on our draft pick, i'd rather just take what's available at QB. Hopefully Hoyer lights it up and we don't need to worry about drafting a QB so high. I'm just hoping to see improvement on his mistakes. But I liked what I saw out of him.
I'm not much of a fan for breaking the bank on these running QBs. It hasn't worked out well for the Redskins. I can understand trading some picks for a big pocket passes, but it's too dangerous to spend the majority of picks on a scrambler that will more than likely get injured.
Key distinction for me is "running QB" vs. "QB that can run". Hate the former; love the latter... and the latter group is where I would place "scramblers".
Running was integral to RG3's college performance and now, it appears, to his NFL effectiveness. Clearly neither he nor the WSH Staff has been comfortable with him running so far this season. Ditto for different reasons Kaepernick...
very talented but has made bad PR decisions which makes him come off as a diva. has his brother and father talking shit to the media. does the worse subway commercials and was all that anyone talked about preseason.
just keep your mouth shut and do your freakin job. believe me washington has more problems than their QB play. someone tell me again how once you draft your franchise QB how you automatically make it to the superbowl?
Agree... I think he's coming off as arrogant. And what was up with that comment on the sliding rule.. not to mention the fact that this great athelete somehow cannot baseball slide.
His speed was enough to keep him from harm at the collegiate level. Tain't so at the Pro level. Mr. Ngata made that abundantly clear. RG3 may turn out to be the best deal we never made.
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