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  • B Buffalo Bills Fan

    I'll stay classy lol. But if wanna too debate i'm all for it lol.

    Anyway's i'm scared of your D it leads alot in catergories. The Ravens D was top 5 last week too. Our Running game has speed (Spiller) or jackson type RB. Can the Browns contain both RBS? But no joke your D is awesome. Yeah our QB goes thru the dr jekyll and mr hyde type things. One minute he is playing awesome one minute he is struglleing really bad. Our WR are also doing pretty good and most getting open up, but Manuel footwork can be very good or bad at times, like some of our TDS in tight spots on the money then their is the out of bounces type stuff. It gets crazy I am 50/50 on him.

    Our D is playing really good besides the Jets game, even though haolf our Secondry is out. Like the Jets game we had Justin Rogers had againest 6 246 yards and 2 TDS! Last game a bunch of more yards and 2 touchdowns. That opened up the Jets running game alot. Hoping Bryd and McKelvin plays. Our D could be alot better then it is and looks like it. With Bryd and maybe McKelvin plays this week, next maybe Gilmore and Brooks our D will come back togther and will be tough. If Rogers is playing this game i'm scared as hell!

    Look out for Kiko Alonso he has INT in every game, makes open field tackes, sacks, fumbles, a little bit of everything might be D rookie of the year, he is playing lights out. Right now. Don't be shocked when he makes a great play, like againest the Ravens againest Joe 2 INT.

    Our Front 7 can be good or really bad at times like I said about Manuel. Hoping good this week.

    Going to be a close game this week under 10 points for both teams (more if Rogers play LOL againest Browns)

    Soo happy that your team is doing great hoping you guys win the division and keep whoever out too help us out lol. You got some good players on Offense unsure if your QB for real or not we will see this weekend.

    Hoping for no injuries for both teams, the Browns have a big addvantage home team always does, on a short week too.

    Good luck too both teams this Thurdsay 🙂

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    @buffalo-bills-fan said:

    I'll stay classy lol. But if wanna too debate i'm all for it lol.

    Anyway's i'm scared of your D it leads alot in catergories. The Ravens D was top 5 last week too. Our Running game has speed (Spiller) or jackson type RB. Can the Browns contain both RBS? But no joke your D is awesome. Yeah our QB goes thru the dr jekyll and mr hyde type things. One minute he is playing awesome one minute he is struglleing really bad. Our WR are also doing pretty good and most getting open up, but Manuel footwork can be very good or bad at times, like some of our TDS in tight spots on the money then their is the out of bounces type stuff. It gets crazy I am 50/50 on him.

    Our D is playing really good besides the Jets game, even though haolf our Secondry is out. Like the Jets game we had Justin Rogers had againest 6 246 yards and 2 TDS! Last game a bunch of more yards and 2 touchdowns. That opened up the Jets running game alot. Hoping Bryd and McKelvin plays. Our D could be alot better then it is and looks like it. With Bryd and maybe McKelvin plays this week, next maybe Gilmore and Brooks our D will come back togther and will be tough. If Rogers is playing this game i'm scared as hell!

    Look out for Kiko Alonso he has INT in every game, makes open field tackes, sacks, fumbles, a little bit of everything might be D rookie of the year, he is playing lights out. Right now. Don't be shocked when he makes a great play, like againest the Ravens againest Joe 2 INT.

    Our Front 7 can be good or really bad at times like I said about Manuel. Hoping good this week.

    Going to be a close game this week under 10 points for both teams (more if Rogers play LOL againest Browns)

    Soo happy that your team is doing great hoping you guys win the division and keep whoever out too help us out lol. You got some good players on Offense unsure if your QB for real or not we will see this weekend.

    Hoping for no injuries for both teams, the Browns have a big addvantage home team always does, on a short week too.

    Good luck too both teams this Thurdsay 🙂

    Classy post. Good to know that all Bills fans arent like the group of idiots in our section last year. Shit you almost make me feel bad about my other post but that guy was kinda asking for it.

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      A alias wrote on last edited by
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      I'm not a football expert, so my predictions are coming from my heart and not my head.

      There are only two NFL teams I care about --

      1a. Buffalo Bills

      1b. Cleveland Browns

      It distresses me to think that one of them has to lose Thursday night. But if I must, I predict...

      Bills 3

      Browns 2

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      • B Buffalo Bills Fan

        I'll stay classy lol. But if wanna too debate i'm all for it lol.

        Anyway's i'm scared of your D it leads alot in catergories. The Ravens D was top 5 last week too. Our Running game has speed (Spiller) or jackson type RB. Can the Browns contain both RBS? But no joke your D is awesome. Yeah our QB goes thru the dr jekyll and mr hyde type things. One minute he is playing awesome one minute he is struglleing really bad. Our WR are also doing pretty good and most getting open up, but Manuel footwork can be very good or bad at times, like some of our TDS in tight spots on the money then their is the out of bounces type stuff. It gets crazy I am 50/50 on him.

        Our D is playing really good besides the Jets game, even though haolf our Secondry is out. Like the Jets game we had Justin Rogers had againest 6 246 yards and 2 TDS! Last game a bunch of more yards and 2 touchdowns. That opened up the Jets running game alot. Hoping Bryd and McKelvin plays. Our D could be alot better then it is and looks like it. With Bryd and maybe McKelvin plays this week, next maybe Gilmore and Brooks our D will come back togther and will be tough. If Rogers is playing this game i'm scared as hell!

        Look out for Kiko Alonso he has INT in every game, makes open field tackes, sacks, fumbles, a little bit of everything might be D rookie of the year, he is playing lights out. Right now. Don't be shocked when he makes a great play, like againest the Ravens againest Joe 2 INT.

        Our Front 7 can be good or really bad at times like I said about Manuel. Hoping good this week.

        Going to be a close game this week under 10 points for both teams (more if Rogers play LOL againest Browns)

        Soo happy that your team is doing great hoping you guys win the division and keep whoever out too help us out lol. You got some good players on Offense unsure if your QB for real or not we will see this weekend.

        Hoping for no injuries for both teams, the Browns have a big addvantage home team always does, on a short week too.

        Good luck too both teams this Thurdsay 🙂

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        alporciniA alporcini wrote on last edited by
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        @buffalo-bills-fan said:

        I'll stay classy lol. But if wanna too debate i'm all for it lol.

        Anyway's i'm scared of your D it leads alot in catergories. The Ravens D was top 5 last week too. Our Running game has speed (Spiller) or jackson type RB. Can the Browns contain both RBS? But no joke your D is awesome. Yeah our QB goes thru the dr jekyll and mr hyde type things. One minute he is playing awesome one minute he is struglleing really bad. Our WR are also doing pretty good and most getting open up, but Manuel footwork can be very good or bad at times, like some of our TDS in tight spots on the money then their is the out of bounces type stuff. It gets crazy I am 50/50 on him.

        Our D is playing really good besides the Jets game, even though haolf our Secondry is out. Like the Jets game we had Justin Rogers had againest 6 246 yards and 2 TDS! Last game a bunch of more yards and 2 touchdowns. That opened up the Jets running game alot. Hoping Bryd and McKelvin plays. Our D could be alot better then it is and looks like it. With Bryd and maybe McKelvin plays this week, next maybe Gilmore and Brooks our D will come back togther and will be tough. If Rogers is playing this game i'm scared as hell!

        Look out for Kiko Alonso he has INT in every game, makes open field tackes, sacks, fumbles, a little bit of everything might be D rookie of the year, he is playing lights out. Right now. Don't be shocked when he makes a great play, like againest the Ravens againest Joe 2 INT.

        Our Front 7 can be good or really bad at times like I said about Manuel. Hoping good this week.

        Going to be a close game this week under 10 points for both teams (more if Rogers play LOL againest Browns)

        Soo happy that your team is doing great hoping you guys win the division and keep whoever out too help us out lol. You got some good players on Offense unsure if your QB for real or not we will see this weekend.

        Hoping for no injuries for both teams, the Browns have a big addvantage home team always does, on a short week too.

        Good luck too both teams this Thurdsay 🙂

        Dude, how has Robert Woods been looking. I see he put up big numbers last week. I'm an USC guy and loved him when he was here... Thinking about picking him up on waivers as a third receiver in my fantasy league. Is he getting looks?

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          I'm not a football expert, so my predictions are coming from my heart and not my head.

          There are only two NFL teams I care about --

          1a. Buffalo Bills

          1b. Cleveland Browns

          It distresses me to think that one of them has to lose Thursday night. But if I must, I predict...

          Bills 3

          Browns 2

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          letsgojacketsL letsgojackets wrote on last edited by
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          @alias said:

          I'm not a football expert, so my predictions are coming from my heart and not my head.

          There are only two NFL teams I care about --

          1a. Buffalo Bills

          1b. Cleveland Browns

          It distresses me to think that one of them has to lose Thursday night. But if I must, I predict...

          Bills 3

          Browns 2

          If that's the score I think both cities will be sick. Cleveland more than Buffalo lol.

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            @buffalo-bills-fan said:

            I'll stay classy lol. But if wanna too debate i'm all for it lol.

            Anyway's i'm scared of your D it leads alot in catergories. The Ravens D was top 5 last week too. Our Running game has speed (Spiller) or jackson type RB. Can the Browns contain both RBS? But no joke your D is awesome. Yeah our QB goes thru the dr jekyll and mr hyde type things. One minute he is playing awesome one minute he is struglleing really bad. Our WR are also doing pretty good and most getting open up, but Manuel footwork can be very good or bad at times, like some of our TDS in tight spots on the money then their is the out of bounces type stuff. It gets crazy I am 50/50 on him.

            Our D is playing really good besides the Jets game, even though haolf our Secondry is out. Like the Jets game we had Justin Rogers had againest 6 246 yards and 2 TDS! Last game a bunch of more yards and 2 touchdowns. That opened up the Jets running game alot. Hoping Bryd and McKelvin plays. Our D could be alot better then it is and looks like it. With Bryd and maybe McKelvin plays this week, next maybe Gilmore and Brooks our D will come back togther and will be tough. If Rogers is playing this game i'm scared as hell!

            Look out for Kiko Alonso he has INT in every game, makes open field tackes, sacks, fumbles, a little bit of everything might be D rookie of the year, he is playing lights out. Right now. Don't be shocked when he makes a great play, like againest the Ravens againest Joe 2 INT.

            Our Front 7 can be good or really bad at times like I said about Manuel. Hoping good this week.

            Going to be a close game this week under 10 points for both teams (more if Rogers play LOL againest Browns)

            Soo happy that your team is doing great hoping you guys win the division and keep whoever out too help us out lol. You got some good players on Offense unsure if your QB for real or not we will see this weekend.

            Hoping for no injuries for both teams, the Browns have a big addvantage home team always does, on a short week too.

            Good luck too both teams this Thurdsay 🙂

            Dude, how has Robert Woods been looking. I see he put up big numbers last week. I'm an USC guy and loved him when he was here... Thinking about picking him up on waivers as a third receiver in my fantasy league. Is he getting looks?

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            B Buffalo Bills Fan wrote on last edited by
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            @alporcini said:

            Dude, how has Robert Woods been looking. I see he put up big numbers last week. I'm an USC guy and loved him when he was here... Thinking about picking him up on waivers as a third receiver in my fantasy league. Is he getting looks?

            He has look pretty good this year even though no 100 yards rec yet. Manuel keeps missing him quite a bit over throwing him and keep going outta bounces when he is open, his numbers would be much higher. He get's open alot. I wouldn't start him this week though your Defense is tough! LOL But it is up too you.

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              @buffalo-bills-fan said:

              I'll stay classy lol. But if wanna too debate i'm all for it lol.

              Anyway's i'm scared of your D it leads alot in catergories. The Ravens D was top 5 last week too. Our Running game has speed (Spiller) or jackson type RB. Can the Browns contain both RBS? But no joke your D is awesome. Yeah our QB goes thru the dr jekyll and mr hyde type things. One minute he is playing awesome one minute he is struglleing really bad. Our WR are also doing pretty good and most getting open up, but Manuel footwork can be very good or bad at times, like some of our TDS in tight spots on the money then their is the out of bounces type stuff. It gets crazy I am 50/50 on him.

              Our D is playing really good besides the Jets game, even though haolf our Secondry is out. Like the Jets game we had Justin Rogers had againest 6 246 yards and 2 TDS! Last game a bunch of more yards and 2 touchdowns. That opened up the Jets running game alot. Hoping Bryd and McKelvin plays. Our D could be alot better then it is and looks like it. With Bryd and maybe McKelvin plays this week, next maybe Gilmore and Brooks our D will come back togther and will be tough. If Rogers is playing this game i'm scared as hell!

              Look out for Kiko Alonso he has INT in every game, makes open field tackes, sacks, fumbles, a little bit of everything might be D rookie of the year, he is playing lights out. Right now. Don't be shocked when he makes a great play, like againest the Ravens againest Joe 2 INT.

              Our Front 7 can be good or really bad at times like I said about Manuel. Hoping good this week.

              Going to be a close game this week under 10 points for both teams (more if Rogers play LOL againest Browns)

              Soo happy that your team is doing great hoping you guys win the division and keep whoever out too help us out lol. You got some good players on Offense unsure if your QB for real or not we will see this weekend.

              Hoping for no injuries for both teams, the Browns have a big addvantage home team always does, on a short week too.

              Good luck too both teams this Thurdsay 🙂

              Classy post. Good to know that all Bills fans arent like the group of idiots in our section last year. Shit you almost make me feel bad about my other post but that guy was kinda asking for it.

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              B Buffalo Bills Fan wrote on last edited by
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              @jcam222 said:

              Classy post. Good to know that all Bills fans arent like the group of idiots in our section last year. Shit you almost make me feel bad about my other post but that guy was kinda asking for it.

              Thanks lol, a couple years ago I called out some nasty Bill's fan on Raiders message board and helped the Raiders people out lol, people should not be acting like that.

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              • S Shep

                Nobody runs the ball more than the Bills. They're protecting E.J. as much as they can.

                BUT... both Spiller and Jackson got hurt (sprained ankle, sprained knee, short week). Both will try to play but at well below 100%. Could be a problem for them, especially against the best run defense in the entire NFL (2.9 YPC).

                If the Bills can't run, and I'm betting they can't, it puts a ton of heat on Manuel. He hasn't been asked to throw very much and now he's facing one of the best pass rush teams in the NFL (3rd with 14).

                Bit of a science problem for the Bills offense.

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                slowburnS slowburn wrote on last edited by slowburn
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                @shep said:

                If the Bills can't run, and I'm betting they can't, it puts a ton of heat on Manuel. He hasn't been asked to throw very much and now he's facing one of the best pass rush teams in the NFL (3rd with 14).

                Bit of a science problem for the Bills offense.

                Manuel should make sure he goes to mass several time before Sunday with a heavy emphasis on praying to Saint Jude.

                First hometown primetime game since 2009 will have the Browns crowd rocking. Browns dominate a banged up Bills team 31-10

                StJudeThaddeus.jpg

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                  tampadawgsT tampadawgs wrote on last edited by
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                  What I do not understand is that some Bills fans think they can run on the Browns. Some say because Spiller has speed.

                  Miller from Miami has a Ton of speed did nothing, Ray Rice Nothing, AP Nothing ( The Best Runningback in the NFL and they were at home) Benard has a shitload of speed did nothing...

                  So it does not really matter who is running for the Bills

                  Speaking of Haden- how about he has gone against Green, Jennings, Smith, Wallace Guess how many Tds he has aloud ZERO less than 300 yards in 4 games!!!!!

                  Browns 24- 3 TDS 1 FG Gordon 160 2 tds Cameron 60 1 td

                  Bills 15 5 field goals

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                  • A alias

                    I'm not a football expert, so my predictions are coming from my heart and not my head.

                    There are only two NFL teams I care about --

                    1a. Buffalo Bills

                    1b. Cleveland Browns

                    It distresses me to think that one of them has to lose Thursday night. But if I must, I predict...

                    Bills 3

                    Browns 2

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                    miktoxicM miktoxic wrote on last edited by
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                    @alias said:

                    I'm not a football expert, so my predictions are coming from my heart and not my head.

                    There are only two NFL teams I care about --

                    1a. Buffalo Bills

                    1b. Cleveland Browns

                    It distresses me to think that one of them has to lose Thursday night. But if I must, I predict...

                    Bills 3

                    Browns 2

                    now that would be classic. just hoping it's be the browns 3 buffalo 2.

                    respect for buffalo. blue collar rust belt. brothers in arms until we play each other.

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                      Canton MikeC Canton Mike wrote on last edited by
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                      It wasn't very long ago (or doesn't seem long ago) that we scrimmaged the Bills every year in training camp. These two cities have always worked well together.....EXCEPT on game night.

                      Mike

                      IN DORSEY I TRUST
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                        R ReginaBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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                        I'm pumped for this game! Coworker of mine up here in Canada is a Bills fan so we placed a bet on the game. Loser has to wear the jersey of the winners team to work on Friday. Look forward to seeing an addition to the Browns bandwagon on Friday!

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                          OsirisO Osiris wrote on last edited by
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                          The Browns ought to win Thursday, but nobody should take it for granted. Most people didn't think the Browns could beat Cinci, and they did. I just don't see Spiller breaking the Browns 4th-ranked run defense when AP couldn't do it. I expect we'll see more production our of McGahee out of the backfield and the Browns will be able to present the semblance of a balanced offense. Manuel's stats are nothing to write home about, and I don't see him being effective at all with our front 7 in his face.

                          Anyone know if the game will be available for Sunday Ticket subscribers?

                          "I said, 'I need someone who's going to want to get on the roller coaster with me knowing that it's not always going to be fun,'" -Paul DePodesta
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                            Buflevelando_78B Buflevelando_78 wrote on last edited by
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                            Hey hey hey football fans!!!

                            *disclaimer* I'm a Bills fan...Browns are my #2 team...talk about a glutton for punishment, but misery loves company!

                            I am amped up for Thursday! Even if the Bills lose...IF...I probably won't be the unbearable bas*ard my wife has come to know and lover over the last decade of disappointment.

                            Anyway...Gotta give props to the way Cleveland is handling their binness! I really like the staff y'all have put together and the talent, like Buffalo, is coming around. Hayden is a blanket, Jackson is a manbeast, Cameron looks like a faster version of Gronk and Hoyer is, well...let's not go too far...TBD, but he did have the luxury of learning from one of the greats in *NE for a couple seasons! Turner is finally back where he belongs as an OC and I love Horton's D.

                            Ok, enough with inflating your collective egos...Here's how I see things shaking out (match-ups):

                            Coaching - I know nothing about Chuddy and from what I've seen of Marrone, @ 'Cuse and B-Lo, I have to say, I am excited about this guy. No edge here for lack of knowledge on the opponent.

                            SJ13 vs Haden - Haden is boss, but Stevie makes a habit of making shut down CB's look average. There's no doubt that he runs unconventional routes and gets open... a lot! He owned Revis, who pretty mutch shut down every receiver he ever faced. Even if Haden gets the best of him, Woods is no one to ignore on the other side of the ball. Also, looks as if there is a chance that Goodwyn plays...I don't think you guys are deep enough in your defensive backfield to handle the load. Edge here goes to the Bills, not Stevie individually, but like I said, your lack of depth will hurt.

                            Our running game vs. your front 7: Spiller/Jackson dual threat, banged up but still dangerous. Baltimore stacked 8, sometimes 9, in the box and we still gashed a top 5 run D for 200+. A couple of variables here...which version of Spiller shows up? Rookie that dances behind the lines and makes unnecessary moves, or the 2012 , 1 move and burst through the hole, version. Regardless, I have to give you guys the edge here, simply because your D is playing lights out. Also, how banged up are FredEx and Thriller...TBD.

                            Historically, the Bills have been anemic with covering TE's. Not this year, but we've not seen anyone close to the talent level of Cameron. This worries me, but let's see if Pettine has legit answer. BIG edge to Cleveland here.

                            Looks as if the Byrd-Man, in all his douchebaggishness, will finaly play and McKelvin should return, so I have no worries with the rest of your offense. Gordon is good...real good...but Mckelvin has stood on his head this year, which is a huge surprise and major bonus as in years past he's displayed ZERO ball skills. You have no running game, but McGahee may have a little extra umpf facing his former team.

                            Oh, I forgot Kiko Alonso...his reaction time is so fast, he's already intercepted Hoyer. The Spaniard will go Gladiator style on you!

                            Close call, but I see it as the Bills keeping up the pace and catching you guys out of position and off guard. Also, I just don't think you have enough offense to keep up.

                            Bills 30

                            Browns 24

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                            • Buflevelando_78B Buflevelando_78

                              Hey hey hey football fans!!!

                              *disclaimer* I'm a Bills fan...Browns are my #2 team...talk about a glutton for punishment, but misery loves company!

                              I am amped up for Thursday! Even if the Bills lose...IF...I probably won't be the unbearable bas*ard my wife has come to know and lover over the last decade of disappointment.

                              Anyway...Gotta give props to the way Cleveland is handling their binness! I really like the staff y'all have put together and the talent, like Buffalo, is coming around. Hayden is a blanket, Jackson is a manbeast, Cameron looks like a faster version of Gronk and Hoyer is, well...let's not go too far...TBD, but he did have the luxury of learning from one of the greats in *NE for a couple seasons! Turner is finally back where he belongs as an OC and I love Horton's D.

                              Ok, enough with inflating your collective egos...Here's how I see things shaking out (match-ups):

                              Coaching - I know nothing about Chuddy and from what I've seen of Marrone, @ 'Cuse and B-Lo, I have to say, I am excited about this guy. No edge here for lack of knowledge on the opponent.

                              SJ13 vs Haden - Haden is boss, but Stevie makes a habit of making shut down CB's look average. There's no doubt that he runs unconventional routes and gets open... a lot! He owned Revis, who pretty mutch shut down every receiver he ever faced. Even if Haden gets the best of him, Woods is no one to ignore on the other side of the ball. Also, looks as if there is a chance that Goodwyn plays...I don't think you guys are deep enough in your defensive backfield to handle the load. Edge here goes to the Bills, not Stevie individually, but like I said, your lack of depth will hurt.

                              Our running game vs. your front 7: Spiller/Jackson dual threat, banged up but still dangerous. Baltimore stacked 8, sometimes 9, in the box and we still gashed a top 5 run D for 200+. A couple of variables here...which version of Spiller shows up? Rookie that dances behind the lines and makes unnecessary moves, or the 2012 , 1 move and burst through the hole, version. Regardless, I have to give you guys the edge here, simply because your D is playing lights out. Also, how banged up are FredEx and Thriller...TBD.

                              Historically, the Bills have been anemic with covering TE's. Not this year, but we've not seen anyone close to the talent level of Cameron. This worries me, but let's see if Pettine has legit answer. BIG edge to Cleveland here.

                              Looks as if the Byrd-Man, in all his douchebaggishness, will finaly play and McKelvin should return, so I have no worries with the rest of your offense. Gordon is good...real good...but Mckelvin has stood on his head this year, which is a huge surprise and major bonus as in years past he's displayed ZERO ball skills. You have no running game, but McGahee may have a little extra umpf facing his former team.

                              Oh, I forgot Kiko Alonso...his reaction time is so fast, he's already intercepted Hoyer. The Spaniard will go Gladiator style on you!

                              Close call, but I see it as the Bills keeping up the pace and catching you guys out of position and off guard. Also, I just don't think you have enough offense to keep up.

                              Bills 30

                              Browns 24

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                              letsgojacketsL letsgojackets wrote on last edited by
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                              @buflevelando_78 said:

                              Hey hey hey football fans!!!

                              *disclaimer* I'm a Bills fan...Browns are my #2 team...talk about a glutton for punishment, but misery loves company!

                              I am amped up for Thursday! Even if the Bills lose...IF...I probably won't be the unbearable bas*ard my wife has come to know and lover over the last decade of disappointment.

                              Anyway...Gotta give props to the way Cleveland is handling their binness! I really like the staff y'all have put together and the talent, like Buffalo, is coming around. Hayden is a blanket, Jackson is a manbeast, Cameron looks like a faster version of Gronk and Hoyer is, well...let's not go too far...TBD, but he did have the luxury of learning from one of the greats in *NE for a couple seasons! Turner is finally back where he belongs as an OC and I love Horton's D.

                              Ok, enough with inflating your collective egos...Here's how I see things shaking out (match-ups):

                              Coaching - I know nothing about Chuddy and from what I've seen of Marrone, @ 'Cuse and B-Lo, I have to say, I am excited about this guy. No edge here for lack of knowledge on the opponent.

                              SJ13 vs Haden - Haden is boss, but Stevie makes a habit of making shut down CB's look average. There's no doubt that he runs unconventional routes and gets open... a lot! He owned Revis, who pretty mutch shut down every receiver he ever faced. Even if Haden gets the best of him, Woods is no one to ignore on the other side of the ball. Also, looks as if there is a chance that Goodwyn plays...I don't think you guys are deep enough in your defensive backfield to handle the load. Edge here goes to the Bills, not Stevie individually, but like I said, your lack of depth will hurt.

                              Our running game vs. your front 7: Spiller/Jackson dual threat, banged up but still dangerous. Baltimore stacked 8, sometimes 9, in the box and we still gashed a top 5 run D for 200+. A couple of variables here...which version of Spiller shows up? Rookie that dances behind the lines and makes unnecessary moves, or the 2012 , 1 move and burst through the hole, version. Regardless, I have to give you guys the edge here, simply because your D is playing lights out. Also, how banged up are FredEx and Thriller...TBD.

                              Historically, the Bills have been anemic with covering TE's. Not this year, but we've not seen anyone close to the talent level of Cameron. This worries me, but let's see if Pettine has legit answer. BIG edge to Cleveland here.

                              Looks as if the Byrd-Man, in all his douchebaggishness, will finaly play and McKelvin should return, so I have no worries with the rest of your offense. Gordon is good...real good...but Mckelvin has stood on his head this year, which is a huge surprise and major bonus as in years past he's displayed ZERO ball skills. You have no running game, but McGahee may have a little extra umpf facing his former team.

                              Oh, I forgot Kiko Alonso...his reaction time is so fast, he's already intercepted Hoyer. The Spaniard will go Gladiator style on you!

                              Close call, but I see it as the Bills keeping up the pace and catching you guys out of position and off guard. Also, I just don't think you have enough offense to keep up.

                              Bills 30

                              Browns 24

                              I'll bite. You havn't put 30 on anybody this year but you're going to against the Browns at home on primetime? EJ's gonna be running for his life with no run game.

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                                For the Bills' fans. Don't expect to score much against one of the league's best Ds. They stop the run, they rush the passer, and they cover. Spiller's a game-time decision and Jackson is hobbled, too. Running will be really, really tough.

                                Bills' D is nasty, too. Could be an ugly-ass scrum out there.

                                http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000254189/article/cleveland-browns-defense-stifling-opponents-under-ray-horton

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                                  @buflevelando_78 said:

                                  Hey hey hey football fans!!!

                                  *disclaimer* I'm a Bills fan...Browns are my #2 team...talk about a glutton for punishment, but misery loves company!

                                  I am amped up for Thursday! Even if the Bills lose...IF...I probably won't be the unbearable bas*ard my wife has come to know and lover over the last decade of disappointment.

                                  Anyway...Gotta give props to the way Cleveland is handling their binness! I really like the staff y'all have put together and the talent, like Buffalo, is coming around. Hayden is a blanket, Jackson is a manbeast, Cameron looks like a faster version of Gronk and Hoyer is, well...let's not go too far...TBD, but he did have the luxury of learning from one of the greats in *NE for a couple seasons! Turner is finally back where he belongs as an OC and I love Horton's D.

                                  Ok, enough with inflating your collective egos...Here's how I see things shaking out (match-ups):

                                  Coaching - I know nothing about Chuddy and from what I've seen of Marrone, @ 'Cuse and B-Lo, I have to say, I am excited about this guy. No edge here for lack of knowledge on the opponent.

                                  SJ13 vs Haden - Haden is boss, but Stevie makes a habit of making shut down CB's look average. There's no doubt that he runs unconventional routes and gets open... a lot! He owned Revis, who pretty mutch shut down every receiver he ever faced. Even if Haden gets the best of him, Woods is no one to ignore on the other side of the ball. Also, looks as if there is a chance that Goodwyn plays...I don't think you guys are deep enough in your defensive backfield to handle the load. Edge here goes to the Bills, not Stevie individually, but like I said, your lack of depth will hurt.

                                  Our running game vs. your front 7: Spiller/Jackson dual threat, banged up but still dangerous. Baltimore stacked 8, sometimes 9, in the box and we still gashed a top 5 run D for 200+. A couple of variables here...which version of Spiller shows up? Rookie that dances behind the lines and makes unnecessary moves, or the 2012 , 1 move and burst through the hole, version. Regardless, I have to give you guys the edge here, simply because your D is playing lights out. Also, how banged up are FredEx and Thriller...TBD.

                                  Historically, the Bills have been anemic with covering TE's. Not this year, but we've not seen anyone close to the talent level of Cameron. This worries me, but let's see if Pettine has legit answer. BIG edge to Cleveland here.

                                  Looks as if the Byrd-Man, in all his douchebaggishness, will finaly play and McKelvin should return, so I have no worries with the rest of your offense. Gordon is good...real good...but Mckelvin has stood on his head this year, which is a huge surprise and major bonus as in years past he's displayed ZERO ball skills. You have no running game, but McGahee may have a little extra umpf facing his former team.

                                  Oh, I forgot Kiko Alonso...his reaction time is so fast, he's already intercepted Hoyer. The Spaniard will go Gladiator style on you!

                                  Close call, but I see it as the Bills keeping up the pace and catching you guys out of position and off guard. Also, I just don't think you have enough offense to keep up.

                                  Bills 30

                                  Browns 24

                                  I'll bite. You havn't put 30 on anybody this year but you're going to against the Browns at home on primetime? EJ's gonna be running for his life with no run game.

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                                  @letsgojackets said:

                                  I'll bite. You havn't put 30 on anybody this year but you're going to against the Browns at home on primetime? EJ's gonna be running for his life with no run game.

                                  Obviously I'm a bit of a homer...more like I want them to put up 30 and garner some attention rather than believing they will. I can see it, though...I think our D/ST will score this game, so 23 on O and 7 from D/ST. Is it really as far fetched as you think? If EJ will be running for his life, what do you think Hoyer will be doing without a run game?

                                  If the Browns can establish the run and get favorable match ups for Cameron and Gordo, then it's a different story. Our D has proved to be pourous against the run until last week, albeit Baltimore abandoned the run after only 12 attempts.

                                  If the Bills button it up and stop McGahee and get after Hoyer, it'll be a long day for him. Gordon won't see a #2 or #3 DB this week in Rogers if McKelvin is out there. Plus, Byrd is set to return to help out with Cameron.

                                  Obviously it's all homerism heresay on either of our behalf, but when it comes down to it the better team, Buffalo, will prevail.

                                  Ps. Putting up 30+ on Minnesota, with that putrid D, isn't very impressive...just sayn'

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                                    Hahahahahahaa.

                                    Ok, i'm honestly laughing my butt off at this thread.

                                    I'm a Bills fan. But I'm not a homer. I don't just go on and on and on about how confident I am that my team is going to beat anyone.

                                    Watching Browns fans in this thread talk about how "nasty" their defense is and how the Bills won't score points and how this "should" be a win has me laughing hysterically.

                                    NOT because that's not possible. NOT because the Bills are a ton better. But just because - YOU'RE THE BROWNS! By the way, the exact same thing could be said to Bills fans if we were gloating, so i'm not being partial.

                                    You guys got destroyed by the Dolphins (who the Bills beat last season), beat by the Ravens (who the Bills beat this year), almost gave the game away to crappy Vikings, and then had a good win against the overrated Bengals in the Ohio Bowl.

                                    Where In the world is all this condidence coming from?

                                    It's like the fat nerdy chick proclaiming herself prom queen.

                                    Anyway, I'm not going to say the Bills will win. They may very well lose. I just had to share my laughter over the ridiculous comments in this thread.

                                    May the less sucky team win.

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                                      @letsgojackets said:

                                      I'll bite. You havn't put 30 on anybody this year but you're going to against the Browns at home on primetime? EJ's gonna be running for his life with no run game.

                                      Obviously I'm a bit of a homer...more like I want them to put up 30 and garner some attention rather than believing they will. I can see it, though...I think our D/ST will score this game, so 23 on O and 7 from D/ST. Is it really as far fetched as you think? If EJ will be running for his life, what do you think Hoyer will be doing without a run game?

                                      If the Browns can establish the run and get favorable match ups for Cameron and Gordo, then it's a different story. Our D has proved to be pourous against the run until last week, albeit Baltimore abandoned the run after only 12 attempts.

                                      If the Bills button it up and stop McGahee and get after Hoyer, it'll be a long day for him. Gordon won't see a #2 or #3 DB this week in Rogers if McKelvin is out there. Plus, Byrd is set to return to help out with Cameron.

                                      Obviously it's all homerism heresay on either of our behalf, but when it comes down to it the better team, Buffalo, will prevail.

                                      Ps. Putting up 30+ on Minnesota, with that putrid D, isn't very impressive...just sayn'

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                                      @buflevelando_78 said:

                                      Obviously I'm a bit of a homer...more like I want them to put up 30 and garner some attention rather than believing they will. I can see it, though...I think our D/ST will score this game, so 23 on O and 7 from D/ST. Is it really as far fetched as you think? If EJ will be running for his life, what do you think Hoyer will be doing without a run game?

                                      If the Browns can establish the run and get favorable match ups for Cameron and Gordo, then it's a different story. Our D has proved to be pourous against the run until last week, albeit Baltimore abandoned the run after only 12 attempts.

                                      If the Bills button it up and stop McGahee and get after Hoyer, it'll be a long day for him. Gordon won't see a #2 or #3 DB this week in Rogers if McKelvin is out there. Plus, Byrd is set to return to help out with Cameron.

                                      Obviously it's all homerism heresay on either of our behalf, but when it comes down to it the better team, Buffalo, will prevail.

                                      Ps. Putting up 30+ on Minnesota, with that putrid D, isn't very impressive...just sayn'

                                      How much do we have to put up on Buffalo for you to be impressed?

                                      Zombo

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                                        Hahahahahahaa.

                                        Ok, i'm honestly laughing my butt off at this thread.

                                        I'm a Bills fan. But I'm not a homer. I don't just go on and on and on about how confident I am that my team is going to beat anyone.

                                        Watching Browns fans in this thread talk about how "nasty" their defense is and how the Bills won't score points and how this "should" be a win has me laughing hysterically.

                                        NOT because that's not possible. NOT because the Bills are a ton better. But just because - YOU'RE THE BROWNS! By the way, the exact same thing could be said to Bills fans if we were gloating, so i'm not being partial.

                                        You guys got destroyed by the Dolphins (who the Bills beat last season), beat by the Ravens (who the Bills beat this year), almost gave the game away to crappy Vikings, and then had a good win against the overrated Bengals in the Ohio Bowl.

                                        Where In the world is all this condidence coming from?

                                        It's like the fat nerdy chick proclaiming herself prom queen.

                                        Anyway, I'm not going to say the Bills will win. They may very well lose. I just had to share my laughter over the ridiculous comments in this thread.

                                        May the less sucky team win.

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                                        hahalaughlaugh said:

                                        Hahahahahahaa.

                                        Ok, i'm honestly laughing my butt off at this thread.

                                        I'm a Bills fan. But I'm not a homer. I don't just go on and on and on about how confident I am that my team is going to beat anyone.

                                        Watching Browns fans in this thread talk about how "nasty" their defense is and how the Bills won't score points and how this "should" be a win has me laughing hysterically.

                                        NOT because that's not possible. NOT because the Bills are a ton better. But just because - YOU'RE THE BROWNS! By the way, the exact same thing could be said to Bills fans if we were gloating, so i'm not being partial.

                                        You guys got destroyed by the Dolphins (who the Bills beat last season), beat by the Ravens (who the Bills beat this year), almost gave the game away to crappy Vikings, and then had a good win against the overrated Bengals in the Ohio Bowl.

                                        Where In the world is all this condidence coming from?

                                        It's like the fat nerdy chick proclaiming herself prom queen.

                                        Anyway, I'm not going to say the Bills will win. They may very well lose. I just had to share my laughter over the ridiculous comments in this thread.

                                        May the less sucky team win.

                                        And there's an asshole ....

                                        Zombo

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                                          @buflevelando_78 said:

                                          Obviously I'm a bit of a homer...more like I want them to put up 30 and garner some attention rather than believing they will. I can see it, though...I think our D/ST will score this game, so 23 on O and 7 from D/ST. Is it really as far fetched as you think? If EJ will be running for his life, what do you think Hoyer will be doing without a run game?

                                          If the Browns can establish the run and get favorable match ups for Cameron and Gordo, then it's a different story. Our D has proved to be pourous against the run until last week, albeit Baltimore abandoned the run after only 12 attempts.

                                          If the Bills button it up and stop McGahee and get after Hoyer, it'll be a long day for him. Gordon won't see a #2 or #3 DB this week in Rogers if McKelvin is out there. Plus, Byrd is set to return to help out with Cameron.

                                          Obviously it's all homerism heresay on either of our behalf, but when it comes down to it the better team, Buffalo, will prevail.

                                          Ps. Putting up 30+ on Minnesota, with that putrid D, isn't very impressive...just sayn'

                                          How much do we have to put up on Buffalo for you to be impressed?

                                          Zombo

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                                          Zombo said:

                                          How much do we have to put up on Buffalo for you to be impressed?

                                          Zombo

                                          No amount.

                                          The Bills suck too (and i'm a Bills fan)

                                          Dropping 50 on us isn't impressive either.

                                          Beat a good team and then let us know.

                                          PS -- I respect Cleveland because you guys have the best damn morning talk show in the world! Rover's Morning Glory.

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