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  • It wasn't very long ago (or doesn't seem long ago) that we scrimmaged the Bills every year in training camp. These two cities have always worked well together.....EXCEPT on game night.

    Mike

  • I'm pumped for this game! Coworker of mine up here in Canada is a Bills fan so we placed a bet on the game. Loser has to wear the jersey of the winners team to work on Friday. Look forward to seeing an addition to the Browns bandwagon on Friday!

  • The Browns ought to win Thursday, but nobody should take it for granted. Most people didn't think the Browns could beat Cinci, and they did. I just don't see Spiller breaking the Browns 4th-ranked run defense when AP couldn't do it. I expect we'll see more production our of McGahee out of the backfield and the Browns will be able to present the semblance of a balanced offense. Manuel's stats are nothing to write home about, and I don't see him being effective at all with our front 7 in his face.

    Anyone know if the game will be available for Sunday Ticket subscribers?

  • Hey hey hey football fans!!!

    *disclaimer* I'm a Bills fan...Browns are my #2 team...talk about a glutton for punishment, but misery loves company!

    I am amped up for Thursday! Even if the Bills lose...IF...I probably won't be the unbearable bas*ard my wife has come to know and lover over the last decade of disappointment.

    Anyway...Gotta give props to the way Cleveland is handling their binness! I really like the staff y'all have put together and the talent, like Buffalo, is coming around. Hayden is a blanket, Jackson is a manbeast, Cameron looks like a faster version of Gronk and Hoyer is, well...let's not go too far...TBD, but he did have the luxury of learning from one of the greats in *NE for a couple seasons! Turner is finally back where he belongs as an OC and I love Horton's D.

    Ok, enough with inflating your collective egos...Here's how I see things shaking out (match-ups):

    Coaching - I know nothing about Chuddy and from what I've seen of Marrone, @ 'Cuse and B-Lo, I have to say, I am excited about this guy. No edge here for lack of knowledge on the opponent.

    SJ13 vs Haden - Haden is boss, but Stevie makes a habit of making shut down CB's look average. There's no doubt that he runs unconventional routes and gets open... a lot! He owned Revis, who pretty mutch shut down every receiver he ever faced. Even if Haden gets the best of him, Woods is no one to ignore on the other side of the ball. Also, looks as if there is a chance that Goodwyn plays...I don't think you guys are deep enough in your defensive backfield to handle the load. Edge here goes to the Bills, not Stevie individually, but like I said, your lack of depth will hurt.

    Our running game vs. your front 7: Spiller/Jackson dual threat, banged up but still dangerous. Baltimore stacked 8, sometimes 9, in the box and we still gashed a top 5 run D for 200+. A couple of variables here...which version of Spiller shows up? Rookie that dances behind the lines and makes unnecessary moves, or the 2012 , 1 move and burst through the hole, version. Regardless, I have to give you guys the edge here, simply because your D is playing lights out. Also, how banged up are FredEx and Thriller...TBD.

    Historically, the Bills have been anemic with covering TE's. Not this year, but we've not seen anyone close to the talent level of Cameron. This worries me, but let's see if Pettine has legit answer. BIG edge to Cleveland here.

    Looks as if the Byrd-Man, in all his douchebaggishness, will finaly play and McKelvin should return, so I have no worries with the rest of your offense. Gordon is good...real good...but Mckelvin has stood on his head this year, which is a huge surprise and major bonus as in years past he's displayed ZERO ball skills. You have no running game, but McGahee may have a little extra umpf facing his former team.

    Oh, I forgot Kiko Alonso...his reaction time is so fast, he's already intercepted Hoyer. The Spaniard will go Gladiator style on you!

    Close call, but I see it as the Bills keeping up the pace and catching you guys out of position and off guard. Also, I just don't think you have enough offense to keep up.

    Bills 30

    Browns 24

  • Hey hey hey football fans!!!

    *disclaimer* I'm a Bills fan...Browns are my #2 team...talk about a glutton for punishment, but misery loves company!

    I am amped up for Thursday! Even if the Bills lose...IF...I probably won't be the unbearable bas*ard my wife has come to know and lover over the last decade of disappointment.

    Anyway...Gotta give props to the way Cleveland is handling their binness! I really like the staff y'all have put together and the talent, like Buffalo, is coming around. Hayden is a blanket, Jackson is a manbeast, Cameron looks like a faster version of Gronk and Hoyer is, well...let's not go too far...TBD, but he did have the luxury of learning from one of the greats in *NE for a couple seasons! Turner is finally back where he belongs as an OC and I love Horton's D.

    Ok, enough with inflating your collective egos...Here's how I see things shaking out (match-ups):

    Coaching - I know nothing about Chuddy and from what I've seen of Marrone, @ 'Cuse and B-Lo, I have to say, I am excited about this guy. No edge here for lack of knowledge on the opponent.

    SJ13 vs Haden - Haden is boss, but Stevie makes a habit of making shut down CB's look average. There's no doubt that he runs unconventional routes and gets open... a lot! He owned Revis, who pretty mutch shut down every receiver he ever faced. Even if Haden gets the best of him, Woods is no one to ignore on the other side of the ball. Also, looks as if there is a chance that Goodwyn plays...I don't think you guys are deep enough in your defensive backfield to handle the load. Edge here goes to the Bills, not Stevie individually, but like I said, your lack of depth will hurt.

    Our running game vs. your front 7: Spiller/Jackson dual threat, banged up but still dangerous. Baltimore stacked 8, sometimes 9, in the box and we still gashed a top 5 run D for 200+. A couple of variables here...which version of Spiller shows up? Rookie that dances behind the lines and makes unnecessary moves, or the 2012 , 1 move and burst through the hole, version. Regardless, I have to give you guys the edge here, simply because your D is playing lights out. Also, how banged up are FredEx and Thriller...TBD.

    Historically, the Bills have been anemic with covering TE's. Not this year, but we've not seen anyone close to the talent level of Cameron. This worries me, but let's see if Pettine has legit answer. BIG edge to Cleveland here.

    Looks as if the Byrd-Man, in all his douchebaggishness, will finaly play and McKelvin should return, so I have no worries with the rest of your offense. Gordon is good...real good...but Mckelvin has stood on his head this year, which is a huge surprise and major bonus as in years past he's displayed ZERO ball skills. You have no running game, but McGahee may have a little extra umpf facing his former team.

    Oh, I forgot Kiko Alonso...his reaction time is so fast, he's already intercepted Hoyer. The Spaniard will go Gladiator style on you!

    Close call, but I see it as the Bills keeping up the pace and catching you guys out of position and off guard. Also, I just don't think you have enough offense to keep up.

    Bills 30

    Browns 24

    @buflevelando_78 said:

    Hey hey hey football fans!!!

    *disclaimer* I'm a Bills fan...Browns are my #2 team...talk about a glutton for punishment, but misery loves company!

    I am amped up for Thursday! Even if the Bills lose...IF...I probably won't be the unbearable bas*ard my wife has come to know and lover over the last decade of disappointment.

    Anyway...Gotta give props to the way Cleveland is handling their binness! I really like the staff y'all have put together and the talent, like Buffalo, is coming around. Hayden is a blanket, Jackson is a manbeast, Cameron looks like a faster version of Gronk and Hoyer is, well...let's not go too far...TBD, but he did have the luxury of learning from one of the greats in *NE for a couple seasons! Turner is finally back where he belongs as an OC and I love Horton's D.

    Ok, enough with inflating your collective egos...Here's how I see things shaking out (match-ups):

    Coaching - I know nothing about Chuddy and from what I've seen of Marrone, @ 'Cuse and B-Lo, I have to say, I am excited about this guy. No edge here for lack of knowledge on the opponent.

    SJ13 vs Haden - Haden is boss, but Stevie makes a habit of making shut down CB's look average. There's no doubt that he runs unconventional routes and gets open... a lot! He owned Revis, who pretty mutch shut down every receiver he ever faced. Even if Haden gets the best of him, Woods is no one to ignore on the other side of the ball. Also, looks as if there is a chance that Goodwyn plays...I don't think you guys are deep enough in your defensive backfield to handle the load. Edge here goes to the Bills, not Stevie individually, but like I said, your lack of depth will hurt.

    Our running game vs. your front 7: Spiller/Jackson dual threat, banged up but still dangerous. Baltimore stacked 8, sometimes 9, in the box and we still gashed a top 5 run D for 200+. A couple of variables here...which version of Spiller shows up? Rookie that dances behind the lines and makes unnecessary moves, or the 2012 , 1 move and burst through the hole, version. Regardless, I have to give you guys the edge here, simply because your D is playing lights out. Also, how banged up are FredEx and Thriller...TBD.

    Historically, the Bills have been anemic with covering TE's. Not this year, but we've not seen anyone close to the talent level of Cameron. This worries me, but let's see if Pettine has legit answer. BIG edge to Cleveland here.

    Looks as if the Byrd-Man, in all his douchebaggishness, will finaly play and McKelvin should return, so I have no worries with the rest of your offense. Gordon is good...real good...but Mckelvin has stood on his head this year, which is a huge surprise and major bonus as in years past he's displayed ZERO ball skills. You have no running game, but McGahee may have a little extra umpf facing his former team.

    Oh, I forgot Kiko Alonso...his reaction time is so fast, he's already intercepted Hoyer. The Spaniard will go Gladiator style on you!

    Close call, but I see it as the Bills keeping up the pace and catching you guys out of position and off guard. Also, I just don't think you have enough offense to keep up.

    Bills 30

    Browns 24

    I'll bite. You havn't put 30 on anybody this year but you're going to against the Browns at home on primetime? EJ's gonna be running for his life with no run game.

  • For the Bills' fans. Don't expect to score much against one of the league's best Ds. They stop the run, they rush the passer, and they cover. Spiller's a game-time decision and Jackson is hobbled, too. Running will be really, really tough.

    Bills' D is nasty, too. Could be an ugly-ass scrum out there.

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000254189/article/cleveland-browns-defense-stifling-opponents-under-ray-horton

  • @buflevelando_78 said:

    Hey hey hey football fans!!!

    *disclaimer* I'm a Bills fan...Browns are my #2 team...talk about a glutton for punishment, but misery loves company!

    I am amped up for Thursday! Even if the Bills lose...IF...I probably won't be the unbearable bas*ard my wife has come to know and lover over the last decade of disappointment.

    Anyway...Gotta give props to the way Cleveland is handling their binness! I really like the staff y'all have put together and the talent, like Buffalo, is coming around. Hayden is a blanket, Jackson is a manbeast, Cameron looks like a faster version of Gronk and Hoyer is, well...let's not go too far...TBD, but he did have the luxury of learning from one of the greats in *NE for a couple seasons! Turner is finally back where he belongs as an OC and I love Horton's D.

    Ok, enough with inflating your collective egos...Here's how I see things shaking out (match-ups):

    Coaching - I know nothing about Chuddy and from what I've seen of Marrone, @ 'Cuse and B-Lo, I have to say, I am excited about this guy. No edge here for lack of knowledge on the opponent.

    SJ13 vs Haden - Haden is boss, but Stevie makes a habit of making shut down CB's look average. There's no doubt that he runs unconventional routes and gets open... a lot! He owned Revis, who pretty mutch shut down every receiver he ever faced. Even if Haden gets the best of him, Woods is no one to ignore on the other side of the ball. Also, looks as if there is a chance that Goodwyn plays...I don't think you guys are deep enough in your defensive backfield to handle the load. Edge here goes to the Bills, not Stevie individually, but like I said, your lack of depth will hurt.

    Our running game vs. your front 7: Spiller/Jackson dual threat, banged up but still dangerous. Baltimore stacked 8, sometimes 9, in the box and we still gashed a top 5 run D for 200+. A couple of variables here...which version of Spiller shows up? Rookie that dances behind the lines and makes unnecessary moves, or the 2012 , 1 move and burst through the hole, version. Regardless, I have to give you guys the edge here, simply because your D is playing lights out. Also, how banged up are FredEx and Thriller...TBD.

    Historically, the Bills have been anemic with covering TE's. Not this year, but we've not seen anyone close to the talent level of Cameron. This worries me, but let's see if Pettine has legit answer. BIG edge to Cleveland here.

    Looks as if the Byrd-Man, in all his douchebaggishness, will finaly play and McKelvin should return, so I have no worries with the rest of your offense. Gordon is good...real good...but Mckelvin has stood on his head this year, which is a huge surprise and major bonus as in years past he's displayed ZERO ball skills. You have no running game, but McGahee may have a little extra umpf facing his former team.

    Oh, I forgot Kiko Alonso...his reaction time is so fast, he's already intercepted Hoyer. The Spaniard will go Gladiator style on you!

    Close call, but I see it as the Bills keeping up the pace and catching you guys out of position and off guard. Also, I just don't think you have enough offense to keep up.

    Bills 30

    Browns 24

    I'll bite. You havn't put 30 on anybody this year but you're going to against the Browns at home on primetime? EJ's gonna be running for his life with no run game.

    @letsgojackets said:

    I'll bite. You havn't put 30 on anybody this year but you're going to against the Browns at home on primetime? EJ's gonna be running for his life with no run game.

    Obviously I'm a bit of a homer...more like I want them to put up 30 and garner some attention rather than believing they will. I can see it, though...I think our D/ST will score this game, so 23 on O and 7 from D/ST. Is it really as far fetched as you think? If EJ will be running for his life, what do you think Hoyer will be doing without a run game?

    If the Browns can establish the run and get favorable match ups for Cameron and Gordo, then it's a different story. Our D has proved to be pourous against the run until last week, albeit Baltimore abandoned the run after only 12 attempts.

    If the Bills button it up and stop McGahee and get after Hoyer, it'll be a long day for him. Gordon won't see a #2 or #3 DB this week in Rogers if McKelvin is out there. Plus, Byrd is set to return to help out with Cameron.

    Obviously it's all homerism heresay on either of our behalf, but when it comes down to it the better team, Buffalo, will prevail.

    Ps. Putting up 30+ on Minnesota, with that putrid D, isn't very impressive...just sayn'

  • Hahahahahahaa.

    Ok, i'm honestly laughing my butt off at this thread.

    I'm a Bills fan. But I'm not a homer. I don't just go on and on and on about how confident I am that my team is going to beat anyone.

    Watching Browns fans in this thread talk about how "nasty" their defense is and how the Bills won't score points and how this "should" be a win has me laughing hysterically.

    NOT because that's not possible. NOT because the Bills are a ton better. But just because - YOU'RE THE BROWNS! By the way, the exact same thing could be said to Bills fans if we were gloating, so i'm not being partial.

    You guys got destroyed by the Dolphins (who the Bills beat last season), beat by the Ravens (who the Bills beat this year), almost gave the game away to crappy Vikings, and then had a good win against the overrated Bengals in the Ohio Bowl.

    Where In the world is all this condidence coming from?

    It's like the fat nerdy chick proclaiming herself prom queen.

    Anyway, I'm not going to say the Bills will win. They may very well lose. I just had to share my laughter over the ridiculous comments in this thread.

    May the less sucky team win.

  • @letsgojackets said:

    I'll bite. You havn't put 30 on anybody this year but you're going to against the Browns at home on primetime? EJ's gonna be running for his life with no run game.

    Obviously I'm a bit of a homer...more like I want them to put up 30 and garner some attention rather than believing they will. I can see it, though...I think our D/ST will score this game, so 23 on O and 7 from D/ST. Is it really as far fetched as you think? If EJ will be running for his life, what do you think Hoyer will be doing without a run game?

    If the Browns can establish the run and get favorable match ups for Cameron and Gordo, then it's a different story. Our D has proved to be pourous against the run until last week, albeit Baltimore abandoned the run after only 12 attempts.

    If the Bills button it up and stop McGahee and get after Hoyer, it'll be a long day for him. Gordon won't see a #2 or #3 DB this week in Rogers if McKelvin is out there. Plus, Byrd is set to return to help out with Cameron.

    Obviously it's all homerism heresay on either of our behalf, but when it comes down to it the better team, Buffalo, will prevail.

    Ps. Putting up 30+ on Minnesota, with that putrid D, isn't very impressive...just sayn'

    @buflevelando_78 said:

    Obviously I'm a bit of a homer...more like I want them to put up 30 and garner some attention rather than believing they will. I can see it, though...I think our D/ST will score this game, so 23 on O and 7 from D/ST. Is it really as far fetched as you think? If EJ will be running for his life, what do you think Hoyer will be doing without a run game?

    If the Browns can establish the run and get favorable match ups for Cameron and Gordo, then it's a different story. Our D has proved to be pourous against the run until last week, albeit Baltimore abandoned the run after only 12 attempts.

    If the Bills button it up and stop McGahee and get after Hoyer, it'll be a long day for him. Gordon won't see a #2 or #3 DB this week in Rogers if McKelvin is out there. Plus, Byrd is set to return to help out with Cameron.

    Obviously it's all homerism heresay on either of our behalf, but when it comes down to it the better team, Buffalo, will prevail.

    Ps. Putting up 30+ on Minnesota, with that putrid D, isn't very impressive...just sayn'

    How much do we have to put up on Buffalo for you to be impressed?

    Zombo

  • Hahahahahahaa.

    Ok, i'm honestly laughing my butt off at this thread.

    I'm a Bills fan. But I'm not a homer. I don't just go on and on and on about how confident I am that my team is going to beat anyone.

    Watching Browns fans in this thread talk about how "nasty" their defense is and how the Bills won't score points and how this "should" be a win has me laughing hysterically.

    NOT because that's not possible. NOT because the Bills are a ton better. But just because - YOU'RE THE BROWNS! By the way, the exact same thing could be said to Bills fans if we were gloating, so i'm not being partial.

    You guys got destroyed by the Dolphins (who the Bills beat last season), beat by the Ravens (who the Bills beat this year), almost gave the game away to crappy Vikings, and then had a good win against the overrated Bengals in the Ohio Bowl.

    Where In the world is all this condidence coming from?

    It's like the fat nerdy chick proclaiming herself prom queen.

    Anyway, I'm not going to say the Bills will win. They may very well lose. I just had to share my laughter over the ridiculous comments in this thread.

    May the less sucky team win.

    hahalaughlaugh said:

    Hahahahahahaa.

    Ok, i'm honestly laughing my butt off at this thread.

    I'm a Bills fan. But I'm not a homer. I don't just go on and on and on about how confident I am that my team is going to beat anyone.

    Watching Browns fans in this thread talk about how "nasty" their defense is and how the Bills won't score points and how this "should" be a win has me laughing hysterically.

    NOT because that's not possible. NOT because the Bills are a ton better. But just because - YOU'RE THE BROWNS! By the way, the exact same thing could be said to Bills fans if we were gloating, so i'm not being partial.

    You guys got destroyed by the Dolphins (who the Bills beat last season), beat by the Ravens (who the Bills beat this year), almost gave the game away to crappy Vikings, and then had a good win against the overrated Bengals in the Ohio Bowl.

    Where In the world is all this condidence coming from?

    It's like the fat nerdy chick proclaiming herself prom queen.

    Anyway, I'm not going to say the Bills will win. They may very well lose. I just had to share my laughter over the ridiculous comments in this thread.

    May the less sucky team win.

    And there's an asshole ....

    Zombo

  • @buflevelando_78 said:

    Obviously I'm a bit of a homer...more like I want them to put up 30 and garner some attention rather than believing they will. I can see it, though...I think our D/ST will score this game, so 23 on O and 7 from D/ST. Is it really as far fetched as you think? If EJ will be running for his life, what do you think Hoyer will be doing without a run game?

    If the Browns can establish the run and get favorable match ups for Cameron and Gordo, then it's a different story. Our D has proved to be pourous against the run until last week, albeit Baltimore abandoned the run after only 12 attempts.

    If the Bills button it up and stop McGahee and get after Hoyer, it'll be a long day for him. Gordon won't see a #2 or #3 DB this week in Rogers if McKelvin is out there. Plus, Byrd is set to return to help out with Cameron.

    Obviously it's all homerism heresay on either of our behalf, but when it comes down to it the better team, Buffalo, will prevail.

    Ps. Putting up 30+ on Minnesota, with that putrid D, isn't very impressive...just sayn'

    How much do we have to put up on Buffalo for you to be impressed?

    Zombo

    Zombo said:

    How much do we have to put up on Buffalo for you to be impressed?

    Zombo

    No amount.

    The Bills suck too (and i'm a Bills fan)

    Dropping 50 on us isn't impressive either.

    Beat a good team and then let us know.

    PS -- I respect Cleveland because you guys have the best damn morning talk show in the world! Rover's Morning Glory.

  • The Browns just beat the Bengals, everybody's boutique Super Bowl pick (not mine). I don't think the Bills suck at all, honestly. They're a tough out when their backs are healthy because their QB can run, too... and they have a nasty pass rush.

    It's not hard at all to call the Browns' defense "nasty." Bucky Brooks just did. They're near the top in just about every stat (scoring, sacking, run D, pass D, etc.).

  • The Browns just beat the Bengals, everybody's boutique Super Bowl pick (not mine). I don't think the Bills suck at all, honestly. They're a tough out when their backs are healthy because their QB can run, too... and they have a nasty pass rush.

    It's not hard at all to call the Browns' defense "nasty." Bucky Brooks just did. They're near the top in just about every stat (scoring, sacking, run D, pass D, etc.).

    @shep said:

    The Browns just beat the Bengals, everybody's boutique Super Bowl pick (not mine). I don't think the Bills suck at all, honestly. They're a tough out when their backs are healthy because their QB can run, too... and they have a nasty pass rush.

    It's not hard at all to call the Browns' defense "nasty." Bucky Brooks just did. They're near the top in just about every stat (scoring, sacking, run D, pass D, etc.).

    Look at the offenses your "nasty" defense has played!

    Dolphins - 25th ranked offense

    Ravens - 28th ranked offense

    Bengals - 22nd ranked offense

    Vikings - 15th ranked offense

    The best offense you played was the 15th ranked Vikings. Literally mediocre. And they put up 28 points on your "nasty" defense!!!!

    (PS, the Bengals were no ones boutique SB pick except for in Ohio)

  • Obviously this is a different team from the one that started 0-2. We got Gordon back and Hoyer is heads above Weeden. Joe Flacco gave you guys the game. He threw 5 picks and you beat them by 3? Stevie Johnson (uncoverable according to some) last week 1 catch -1 yards. I'm scared as fuck. Please come back after the game. We will be here. Oh yeah you're QB completed less than 50% of his passes too. Haden is having nightmares...

  • Obviously this is a different team from the one that started 0-2. We got Gordon back and Hoyer is heads above Weeden. Joe Flacco gave you guys the game. He threw 5 picks and you beat them by 3? Stevie Johnson (uncoverable according to some) last week 1 catch -1 yards. I'm scared as fuck. Please come back after the game. We will be here. Oh yeah you're QB completed less than 50% of his passes too. Haden is having nightmares...

    @letsgojackets said:

    Obviously this is a different team from the one that started 0-2. We got Gordon back and Hoyer is heads above Weeden. Joe Flacco gave you guys the game. He threw 5 picks and you beat them by 3? Stevie Johnson (uncoverable according to some) last week 1 catch -1 yards. I'm scared as fuck. Please come back after the game. We will be here. Oh yeah you're QB completed less than 50% of his passes too. Haden is having nightmares...

    Do you see me talking smack?

    I said the Bills suck too.

    Who you trying to convince?

    Oh yes, the Browns are unstoppable! Such a different team! Hoyer is Tom Brady! The Browns defense is the pit of doom.

    Hahahahahahahaha.

    All I will say is that you can't just say "Flacco threw 5 pics" without saying "The Bills defense forced 5 pics" - But whatever.

  • Boo-shit. I've heard the Bengals lauded all over the universe, man. They were ESPN darlings until the Browns' win. Even after it, on NFLN, they were saying the Bengals have to "win games like that" to prove they're serious contenders.

    And the Browns contributed to the Bengals ranking, BTW. They shut'em down. The Bills' offense is nothing remotely close to the Bengals, talent-wise. So expect fewer than 6 points (!).

  • Yes you're talking smack. Do I need to explain it? Ok the bills forced 5 picks and beat them by 3. Happy?

  • Yes you're talking smack. Do I need to explain it? Ok the bills forced 5 picks and beat them by 3. Happy?

    @letsgojackets said:

    Yes you're talking smack. Do I need to explain it? Ok the bills forced 5 picks and beat them by 3. Happy?

    Yeah, the Bills suck man. No one's arguing lol.

    This is the suck bowl.

  • Simple- if the Bills can't effecively run the ball, and expect Manuel to win the game, you're in trouble.

    If the Browns can give Hoyer adequate time to throw the ball, again, trouble for the Bills. The Browns have relied mostly on quick crossing routes, capatalizing on Hoyers ability to get the ball out quickly. Then it's Cameron or Gordon time over the top. Hoyer does have enough arm to throw the ball deep.

  • Boo-shit. I've heard the Bengals lauded all over the universe, man. They were ESPN darlings until the Browns' win. Even after it, on NFLN, they were saying the Bengals have to "win games like that" to prove they're serious contenders.

    And the Browns contributed to the Bengals ranking, BTW. They shut'em down. The Bills' offense is nothing remotely close to the Bengals, talent-wise. So expect fewer than 6 points (!).

    @shep said:

    Boo-shit. I've heard the Bengals lauded all over the universe, man. They were ESPN darlings until the Browns' win. Even after it, on NFLN, they were saying the Bengals have to "win games like that" to prove they're serious contenders.

    And the Browns contributed to the Bengals ranking, BTW. They shut'em down. The Bills' offense is nothing remotely close to the Bengals, talent-wise. So expect fewer than 6 points (!).

    No, they weren't. You just perceive it that way because youre rivals. No one outside of Ohio was even looking at the Bengals lol. In fact, I just saw an article talking about how unimpressive Dalton has been all year.

    LOL. And the Vikings offense is on par with the Bills. So we should expect 28 points? HA.

    You haven't faced a good offense all year. They've all sucked. The Bills offense sucks too so you won't face a good one this week either.

    So you're "nasty" D will be able to pretend yet again.