Browns V. Bills
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Obviously I'm a bit of a homer...more like I want them to put up 30 and garner some attention rather than believing they will. I can see it, though...I think our D/ST will score this game, so 23 on O and 7 from D/ST. Is it really as far fetched as you think? If EJ will be running for his life, what do you think Hoyer will be doing without a run game?
If the Browns can establish the run and get favorable match ups for Cameron and Gordo, then it's a different story. Our D has proved to be pourous against the run until last week, albeit Baltimore abandoned the run after only 12 attempts.
If the Bills button it up and stop McGahee and get after Hoyer, it'll be a long day for him. Gordon won't see a #2 or #3 DB this week in Rogers if McKelvin is out there. Plus, Byrd is set to return to help out with Cameron.
Obviously it's all homerism heresay on either of our behalf, but when it comes down to it the better team, Buffalo, will prevail.
Ps. Putting up 30+ on Minnesota, with that putrid D, isn't very impressive...just sayn'
How much do we have to put up on Buffalo for you to be impressed?
Zombo
Zombo said:
How much do we have to put up on Buffalo for you to be impressed?
Zombo
No amount.
The Bills suck too (and i'm a Bills fan)
Dropping 50 on us isn't impressive either.
Beat a good team and then let us know.
PS -- I respect Cleveland because you guys have the best damn morning talk show in the world! Rover's Morning Glory.
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The Browns just beat the Bengals, everybody's boutique Super Bowl pick (not mine). I don't think the Bills suck at all, honestly. They're a tough out when their backs are healthy because their QB can run, too... and they have a nasty pass rush.
It's not hard at all to call the Browns' defense "nasty." Bucky Brooks just did. They're near the top in just about every stat (scoring, sacking, run D, pass D, etc.).
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The Browns just beat the Bengals, everybody's boutique Super Bowl pick (not mine). I don't think the Bills suck at all, honestly. They're a tough out when their backs are healthy because their QB can run, too... and they have a nasty pass rush.
It's not hard at all to call the Browns' defense "nasty." Bucky Brooks just did. They're near the top in just about every stat (scoring, sacking, run D, pass D, etc.).
The Browns just beat the Bengals, everybody's boutique Super Bowl pick (not mine). I don't think the Bills suck at all, honestly. They're a tough out when their backs are healthy because their QB can run, too... and they have a nasty pass rush.
It's not hard at all to call the Browns' defense "nasty." Bucky Brooks just did. They're near the top in just about every stat (scoring, sacking, run D, pass D, etc.).
Look at the offenses your "nasty" defense has played!
Dolphins - 25th ranked offense
Ravens - 28th ranked offense
Bengals - 22nd ranked offense
Vikings - 15th ranked offense
The best offense you played was the 15th ranked Vikings. Literally mediocre. And they put up 28 points on your "nasty" defense!!!!
(PS, the Bengals were no ones boutique SB pick except for in Ohio)
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Obviously this is a different team from the one that started 0-2. We got Gordon back and Hoyer is heads above Weeden. Joe Flacco gave you guys the game. He threw 5 picks and you beat them by 3? Stevie Johnson (uncoverable according to some) last week 1 catch -1 yards. I'm scared as fuck. Please come back after the game. We will be here. Oh yeah you're QB completed less than 50% of his passes too. Haden is having nightmares...
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Obviously this is a different team from the one that started 0-2. We got Gordon back and Hoyer is heads above Weeden. Joe Flacco gave you guys the game. He threw 5 picks and you beat them by 3? Stevie Johnson (uncoverable according to some) last week 1 catch -1 yards. I'm scared as fuck. Please come back after the game. We will be here. Oh yeah you're QB completed less than 50% of his passes too. Haden is having nightmares...
Obviously this is a different team from the one that started 0-2. We got Gordon back and Hoyer is heads above Weeden. Joe Flacco gave you guys the game. He threw 5 picks and you beat them by 3? Stevie Johnson (uncoverable according to some) last week 1 catch -1 yards. I'm scared as fuck. Please come back after the game. We will be here. Oh yeah you're QB completed less than 50% of his passes too. Haden is having nightmares...
Do you see me talking smack?
I said the Bills suck too.
Who you trying to convince?
Oh yes, the Browns are unstoppable! Such a different team! Hoyer is Tom Brady! The Browns defense is the pit of doom.
Hahahahahahahaha.
All I will say is that you can't just say "Flacco threw 5 pics" without saying "The Bills defense forced 5 pics" - But whatever.
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Boo-shit. I've heard the Bengals lauded all over the universe, man. They were ESPN darlings until the Browns' win. Even after it, on NFLN, they were saying the Bengals have to "win games like that" to prove they're serious contenders.
And the Browns contributed to the Bengals ranking, BTW. They shut'em down. The Bills' offense is nothing remotely close to the Bengals, talent-wise. So expect fewer than 6 points (!).
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Yes you're talking smack. Do I need to explain it? Ok the bills forced 5 picks and beat them by 3. Happy?
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Yes you're talking smack. Do I need to explain it? Ok the bills forced 5 picks and beat them by 3. Happy?
Yes you're talking smack. Do I need to explain it? Ok the bills forced 5 picks and beat them by 3. Happy?
Yeah, the Bills suck man. No one's arguing lol.
This is the suck bowl.
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Simple- if the Bills can't effecively run the ball, and expect Manuel to win the game, you're in trouble.
If the Browns can give Hoyer adequate time to throw the ball, again, trouble for the Bills. The Browns have relied mostly on quick crossing routes, capatalizing on Hoyers ability to get the ball out quickly. Then it's Cameron or Gordon time over the top. Hoyer does have enough arm to throw the ball deep.
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Boo-shit. I've heard the Bengals lauded all over the universe, man. They were ESPN darlings until the Browns' win. Even after it, on NFLN, they were saying the Bengals have to "win games like that" to prove they're serious contenders.
And the Browns contributed to the Bengals ranking, BTW. They shut'em down. The Bills' offense is nothing remotely close to the Bengals, talent-wise. So expect fewer than 6 points (!).
Boo-shit. I've heard the Bengals lauded all over the universe, man. They were ESPN darlings until the Browns' win. Even after it, on NFLN, they were saying the Bengals have to "win games like that" to prove they're serious contenders.
And the Browns contributed to the Bengals ranking, BTW. They shut'em down. The Bills' offense is nothing remotely close to the Bengals, talent-wise. So expect fewer than 6 points (!).
No, they weren't. You just perceive it that way because youre rivals. No one outside of Ohio was even looking at the Bengals lol. In fact, I just saw an article talking about how unimpressive Dalton has been all year.
LOL. And the Vikings offense is on par with the Bills. So we should expect 28 points? HA.
You haven't faced a good offense all year. They've all sucked. The Bills offense sucks too so you won't face a good one this week either.
So you're "nasty" D will be able to pretend yet again.
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Simple- if the Bills can't effecively run the ball, and expect Manuel to win the game, you're in trouble.
If the Browns can give Hoyer adequate time to throw the ball, again, trouble for the Bills. The Browns have relied mostly on quick crossing routes, capatalizing on Hoyers ability to get the ball out quickly. Then it's Cameron or Gordon time over the top. Hoyer does have enough arm to throw the ball deep.
Simple- if the Bills can't effecively run the ball, and expect Manuel to win the game, you're in trouble.
If the Browns can give Hoyer adequate time to throw the ball, again, trouble for the Bills. The Browns have relied mostly on quick crossing routes, capatalizing on Hoyers ability to get the ball out quickly. Then it's Cameron or Gordon time over the top. Hoyer does have enough arm to throw the ball deep.
He sucks throwing deep. Wildly inaccurate.
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Man, I just don't agree. Both teams are vastly improved and had strong offseasons. The EJ pick was ballsy and smart... but nobody's looking to give back sack-a-game Keke, either.
Neither is an offensive juggernaut... but they both have players on that side of the ball, too. The winner of this game could launch toward a Wild Card.
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Yes you're talking smack. Do I need to explain it? Ok the bills forced 5 picks and beat them by 3. Happy?
Yeah, the Bills suck man. No one's arguing lol.
This is the suck bowl.
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Simple- if the Bills can't effecively run the ball, and expect Manuel to win the game, you're in trouble.
If the Browns can give Hoyer adequate time to throw the ball, again, trouble for the Bills. The Browns have relied mostly on quick crossing routes, capatalizing on Hoyers ability to get the ball out quickly. Then it's Cameron or Gordon time over the top. Hoyer does have enough arm to throw the ball deep.
He sucks throwing deep. Wildly inaccurate.
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Boo-shit. I've heard the Bengals lauded all over the universe, man. They were ESPN darlings until the Browns' win. Even after it, on NFLN, they were saying the Bengals have to "win games like that" to prove they're serious contenders.
And the Browns contributed to the Bengals ranking, BTW. They shut'em down. The Bills' offense is nothing remotely close to the Bengals, talent-wise. So expect fewer than 6 points (!).
No, they weren't. You just perceive it that way because youre rivals. No one outside of Ohio was even looking at the Bengals lol. In fact, I just saw an article talking about how unimpressive Dalton has been all year.
LOL. And the Vikings offense is on par with the Bills. So we should expect 28 points? HA.
You haven't faced a good offense all year. They've all sucked. The Bills offense sucks too so you won't face a good one this week either.
So you're "nasty" D will be able to pretend yet again.
True about the article, referenced on ESPN. But prior to that, ESPN and NFLN were up the Bengals ass all offseason and right up until the Browns game. I don't read Cincinnati papers, only Cleveland, and while there was respect for the Bengals I never saw any Browns writers gushing like the national guys.
hahalaughlaugh said:
No, they weren't. You just perceive it that way because youre rivals. No one outside of Ohio was even looking at the Bengals lol. In fact, I just saw an article talking about how unimpressive Dalton has been all year.
LOL. And the Vikings offense is on par with the Bills. So we should expect 28 points? HA.
You haven't faced a good offense all year. They've all sucked. The Bills offense sucks too so you won't face a good one this week either.
So you're "nasty" D will be able to pretend yet again.
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Man, I just don't agree. Both teams are vastly improved and had strong offseasons. The EJ pick was ballsy and smart... but nobody's looking to give back sack-a-game Keke, either.
Neither is an offensive juggernaut... but they both have players on that side of the ball, too. The winner of this game could launch toward a Wild Card.
Man, I just don't agree. Both teams are vastly improved and had strong offseasons. The EJ pick was ballsy and smart... but nobody's looking to give back sack-a-game Keke, either.
Neither is an offensive juggernaut... but they both have players on that side of the ball, too. The winner of this game could launch toward a Wild Card.
The Browns have 0 chance at a wild card.
You guys blow.
I don't understand this confidence from Browns fans.
You get blown out by Miami. Get beat the Ravens (who the Bills beat). Almost give the game away to a horrible Vikings team, and then beat the Bengals and all of a sudden youre a good team.
HAHAHAHAHA.
Are you all on meth?
Your. Team. BLOWS.
So does the Bills.
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Here's a key: The Browns have proven they can win with Hoyer and no running game. The Bills have not proven the same with Manuel. Hoyer plays like a veteran, makes pre-snap reads and gets the ball out. I'm an EJ fan but he's a rookie and hasn't been asked to do much.
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hahalaughlaugh said:
He sucks throwing deep. Wildly inaccurate.
Did you watch the games he's played in? I have to disagree.
Weeden is wildly innacurate I'll grant you that- but he won't be playing Thursday, barring injury.
Did you watch the games he's played in? I have to disagree.
Yeah I did.
I also saw ESPN making fun of his deep throws and some still pictures from a Bills forum.
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Here's a key: The Browns have proven they can win with Hoyer and no running game. The Bills have not proven the same with Manuel. Hoyer plays like a veteran, makes pre-snap reads and gets the ball out. I'm an EJ fan but he's a rookie and hasn't been asked to do much.
Here's a key: The Browns have proven they can win with Hoyer and no running game. The Bills have not proven the same with Manuel. Hoyer plays like a veteran, makes pre-snap reads and gets the ball out. I'm an EJ fan but he's a rookie and hasn't been asked to do much.
The Browns have proven they can barely win against a crappy Vikings team and can beat a Bengals team which is a rival.
That's not the same as proven to win.
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