Browns fans...
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That's the point I was trying to make. I'm usually all for protecting the QB. However, when a QB is being chased down, he needs to know when to slide or slip out of bounds. Just ask RG3 or Vivk.
so you're saying it wasn't a cheapshot. okay.
*and it was 4 super bowls in a row
i'd settle just for going to the playoffs for the first time in 13 years
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if anything TOUCHED hoyer's head, it might have been alonso's shoulder pads.
the link shows a better angle
if anything TOUCHED hoyer's head, it might have been alonso's shoulder pads.
the link shows a better angle
When looking at the other angle Alonso clearly went out of his way to lead with his helmet. I will not be surprised if he get fined.
There's never a good reason to crush the qb in today's league. Period.
As long as its on the up and up for the most part I will never have a problem with the Browns taking out another teams QB.
At least the Browns aren't the Pittsburgh Pirates!
You know the Pirates have won 2 World Series since the last time the Browns have won anything.
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ln defense of Alonso, when Hoyer decided to slide Alonso had already locked in on the trajectory of his tackle which wasn't head level. .
If Hoyer hadn't tucked his left leg he would still be playing. It was far from a text book slide.
Norv needs to answer to Chud why his QB's don't know how to slide. Overlooking fundamentals can cost you a whole fucking season. One needs to look no further than Norv to point the finger.
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if anything TOUCHED hoyer's head, it might have been alonso's shoulder pads.
the link shows a better angle
When looking at the other angle Alonso clearly went out of his way to lead with his helmet. I will not be surprised if he get fined.
There's never a good reason to crush the qb in today's league. Period.
As long as its on the up and up for the most part I will never have a problem with the Browns taking out another teams QB.
At least the Browns aren't the Pittsburgh Pirates!
You know the Pirates have won 2 World Series since the last time the Browns have won anything.
You know the Pirates have won 2 World Series since the last time the Browns have won anything.
True. Nonetheless, they had 21 straight losing seasons.
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I would take 21 straight losing seasons to see the Browns win 2 titles.
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I would take 21 straight losing seasons to see the Browns win 2 titles.
I would take 21 straight losing seasons to see the Browns win 2 titles.
You act as if the 21 straight losing seasons retroactively resulted in the Pirates winning 2 WS!
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No I just made a statement. You're infering things that aren't there.
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I'm just in a bad mood don't take it to heart.
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No I just made a statement. You're infering things that aren't there.
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I'm just in a bad mood don't take it to heart.
No I just made a statement. You're infering things that aren't there.
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I'm just in a bad mood don't take it to heart.
Talking about the Browns' epic inadequacies will do that to you!
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At least the browns have championships. The bills lost four straight super bowls which is sort of akin to losing all your children in the civil war.
Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind... -
I'm watching the game again and the close up slow mo was definately helmet to helmet. It was a bang bang play but Hoyer got smashed in the noggin.
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if anything TOUCHED hoyer's head, it might have been alonso's shoulder pads.
the link shows a better angle
if anything TOUCHED hoyer's head, it might have been alonso's shoulder pads.
the link shows a better angle
the link did show a better angle - and Hoyers helmet almost came off.....
helmet to helmet hit for sure - but a bad slide technique unfortunately
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And Schwartz didn't even touch a defender on the play. Yuck.
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I almost hate to say it... but Alonso's head was down before Hoyer started his slide. Was he trying to hit him in the head? No, because he didn't know his head was going to be that low. Was he leading with his helmet? Oh, yeah. Very much so. Did he know Hoyer already had the first down and was sideline bound (shouldn't really have slid)? Sure.
But he wasn't out yet so you can hit him... and are coached to do so.
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alonso reminded me a lot of polomalu last night.
tough player, i'll give you that but now i got 2 players on my hit list.
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The QB either has to get the fuck down or get out of bounds. End of story.
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It's a bullshit punk move by gonzo. The Qb was giving himself up and then he crushes him. Punk James Harrison move. It's cool, this punk is trying to build a rep or something... keep your fucking head on a swivel little bitch ass Gonzo fuck. Bullseye on your back bitch. You think Lombardi won't be dialing up his connects to put a hit out on you to end your season after you wasted his boy Hoyer. What goes around comes around, bitch. LOL
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Cheapshot. Should've been a flag... period
please explain how it was a cheapshot and should have been a flag. he didn't hit him helmet to helmet, he didnt hit him after he started sliding...
Seemed like Alonso launched himself just before Hoyer tried to slide.
are defenders not allowed to launch themselves at offensive players that aren't defenseless?
please explain how it was a cheapshot and should have been a flag. he didn't hit him helmet to helmet, he didnt hit him after he started sliding...
are defenders not allowed to launch themselves at offensive players that aren't defenseless?
I agree, it was not an illegal hit. When a QB runs like Hoyer did he becomes a running back and loses the protection of the pocket. A RB is allowed to be hit in that fashion.
Even if it were illegal....it had nothing to do with the injury. The injury was caused by the way his legs got twisted under him, not by the hit to the head. If Alonso had hit him in the shoulder or chest that leg twist likely would have occurred anyway. No, Hoyer just didn't use proper "get down" technique and was primarily responsible for his own injury.
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However you want to try and defend it it was out of line. So was gipson. Enjoy the next eight weeks of tuell because some dude had to crush your qb.
However you want to try and defend it it was out of line. So was gipson. Enjoy the next eight weeks of tuell because some dude had to crush your qb.
Gipson's hit on Emanueal was perfectly legal and clean. I think his fist pump had nothing to do with celebrating hurting a guy...but just with making a big stop.
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At least the browns have championships. The bills lost four straight super bowls which is sort of akin to losing all your children in the civil war.
At least the browns have championships. The bills lost four straight super bowls which is sort of akin to losing all your children in the civil war.
The Bills have also won two championships. Browns 8. Additional non Browns NEO teams 5 more.
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I guess there is a bottom line to this: Browns QB goes out....but is replaced by the young veteran that all thought would be the starter this season anyway. Bills rookie 1st round QB goes out....is replaced by an undrafted FA rookie QB.
Sorry, but the Bill Front Office is foolish to have allowed that situation to happen. The Browns FO thought Weeden would be the QB....but also added veteran Jason Campbell and veteran Brian Hoyer as backups. If Weeden goes down...as he did, they had a quality backup to come in...be it Hoyer or Campbell. It was Hoyer who did well....and when he got the starting job...but got hurt, the original slated starter can now come back in and play (and we still have the veteran Campbell if needed).
The Bill FO WAS foolish to allow that situation to happen. Does any FO really count on their starting QB to play every game? We KNOW that won't happen.
The Browns will probably now pick up a fairly decent QB to take Hoyer's roster spot. The Bill ought to be looking for two.
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