Josh Gordon to 49ers discussed according to Adam Schefter

cuwoohio

@the-gipper said:
OK, so it may be Banner, moreso than Lombardi that has a hard on about getting rid of Heckert chosen players. Because I believe he has some sort of grudge against Heckert from Philly days, and he takes it out on Heckert's players.

If true, I think it would have more to do with 1 more strike and he's out then Heckert or Philly or anything else. Kind of depends on whether you put much stock on what Adam Schefter tweets or not.

Suomi

@comeonman said:
Gordon is one of three players on this team you absolutely cannot trade. I wouldn't let him go for two first rounders. Would any other team give up an elite WR, which Gordon is, for any kind of draft pick? No, why should Cleveland be the only stupid one. I know it's just discussion but it still pisses me off

This ^

SunDawg

Gordons Contract:

7/16/2012: Signed a four-year, $5.342 million contract. The deal contains $3.8 million guaranteed -- a $2.324 million signing bonus, Gordon's first two base salaries, and $380,000 of his third-year salary. 2013: $632,802, 2014: $825,604 (+ $50,000 workout bonus), 2015: $1,068,406 (+ $50,000 workout bonus), 2016: Free Agent

This is chump change for a receiver of his quality. Essentially, there is little risk to keeping him, more risk letting him go, become a stud, and make Browns look like brown sphincters muscles (ie assholes)!

Booty Loaf

Ian Rapoport @RapSheet

Browns aren't shopping their stars. But they have talked to teams about Josh Gordon, including #49ers. They'd like a 2nd rounder in return

hoorta

Zombo said:

Relax.

Just because other teams offer, and we listen, doesn't mean we are shopping him. Ya gotta listen.

But I wouldn't trade him for Two #1's right now ... he's a franchise receiver.

Zombo

^+1 Nah we'll trade you Gordon for Frank Gore + a pick. Hey Niners, care to trade us Kapernic while you're in the market? We'll give you Weeden and one of our first rounders? Deal?

@comeonman said:
Gordon is one of three players on this team you absolutely cannot trade. I wouldn't let him go for two first rounders. Would any other team give up an elite WR, which Gordon is, for any kind of draft pick? No, why should Cleveland be the only stupid one. I know it's just discussion but it still pisses me off

What you and Zombo said.

@sundawg said:

Gordons Contract:

7/16/2012: Signed a four-year, $5.342 million contract. The deal contains $3.8 million guaranteed -- a $2.324 million signing bonus, Gordon's first two base salaries, and $380,000 of his third-year salary. 2013: $632,802, 2014: $825,604 (+ $50,000 workout bonus), 2015: $1,068,406 (+ $50,000 workout bonus), 2016: Free Agent

This is chump change for a receiver of his quality. Essentially, there is little risk to keeping him, more risk letting him go, become a stud, and make Browns look like brown sphincters muscles (ie assholes)!

Exactly

@booty-loaf said:

Ian Rapoport @RapSheet

Browns aren't shopping their stars. But they have talked to teams about Josh Gordon, including #49ers. They'd like a 2nd rounder in return

Really? That's all the value Ian puts on a stud WR? In that case we should ask the Lions if they'd trade us Megatron for a second rounder, Man, I'd do that deal in a nanosecond. Hell, I'll even throw Greg Little in on top of it.

htownbrown

Either Gordon's personal life is just an accident waiting to happen or he is complaining about money already. No one would trade his talent for a future pick at this point no matter who drafted who. Richardson was traded because he was unproductive and the Colts reached a little too far for his potential. But Gordon is becoming a star. My bullshit theory, if i had to make one, would be that promises were made by the old FO that the new FO won't keep, Gordon is bleeding from one of his holes about it, and eveyone else is starting to get tired of the internal saga. Or this kid is going to be the next Ricky Williams, if you know what I mean. It has to be extreme to even begin to make sense.

Clevfan4life

if true they must have info on his partying habits, maybe we can pull Gore out of there or maybe even one of their defensive players like Aldon or one of the ILB'ers. I might consider that trade.

Tour2ma

I see upside to shopping him and "leaking" his "value".

Gordon is worth much more than a 2... period. Shows it everytime he sets foot on the field.

If teams are concerned enough about him getting on the field that a 2 is as high as they are willing to go, I use that to motivate Gordon to stay on the field and show them all what they missed out on.

If nothing else, the kid has pride... use it...

@slowburn said:
... snorting blow off Moly (Miley) Cyrus' cleavage at Larry Flynts club on west bank.

Miley has cleavage?

@the-cysko-kid said:
The national media is still talking about Richardson like he's an elite player.

Amazing isn't it?

koalabazooka

@booty-loaf said:

Ian Rapoport @RapSheet

Browns aren't shopping their stars. But they have talked to teams about Josh Gordon, including #49ers. They'd like a 2nd rounder in return

If Trent is worth a 1st, then Gordon is worth a 1st, 2nd & 3rd.

D Bone

@koalabazooka said:
If Trent is worth a 1st, then Gordon is worth a 1st, 2nd & 3rd.

......in each of the next 3 drafts.

ballpeen

Zombo said:

Relax.

Just because other teams offer, and we listen, doesn't mean we are shopping him. Ya gotta listen.

But I wouldn't trade him for Two #1's right now ... he's a franchise receiver.

Zombo

No doubt you have to listen. Even if for no other reason than to keep the lines of communication open with the other team. You never know when you might want to contact them.

As the saying goes....everything is for sale if the price is right.

beefjerky

@d-bone said:

......in each of the next 3 drafts.

This. Seriously like many others already said, you can draft a WR for the next 10 drafts and not get one that is good as Josh Gordon. I wouldn't trade him for 2 firsts, and if someone was crazy enough to trade 3 firsts that's when I'd be stumped.

How many years do teams pick a player in the 1st round and 3 years in a row it's a pretty mediocre to average player, possibly even a bust? it happens quite often.

I hope no team is crazy enough to offer 2 firsts and some other picks because I'm sure Banner/Lombardi would do that deal. I wanna keep Josh.

edit: LOL a second for Josh? what is wrong with this shit.

philbert79

Kirwan and Carucci on Moving the Chains, Siruis XM with a great take on this.

http://bit.ly/15YRWjI

hoorta

@ballpeen said:

No doubt you have to listen. Even if for no other reason than to keep the lines of communication open with the other team. You never know when you might want to contact them.

As the saying goes....everything is for sale if the price is right.

Not exactly 'Peen and you know this- there's a few guys in the NFL that there isn't a realistic price on. You could offer the Broncos your next two drafts for Peyton Manning, and you'd get probably get turned down.

miktoxic

@hoorta said:

Not exactly 'Peen and you know this- there's a few guys in the NFL that there isn't a realistic price on. You could offer the Broncos your next two drafts for Peyton Manning, and you'd get probably get turned down.

"probably".

i think it'd go more like "go fuck yourselves!"

Shep

They clearly have been. You're 100% right. Virtually every move not only looks fantastic... but makes it seem like nobody else since 1999 really understood the league they play in.

I would hate the idea of trading Gordon... but I would instantly suspect Banner had a good reason. Nobody manages a team out of spite. Banner is an employee who will be judged on wins and losses and he knows it. This whole notion that GMs run a team to make a point about Tom Heckert is absolutely off the reservation.

If we did trade Gordon, and I deeply doubt it? Wait for the other shoe to drop. That would mean the team sincerely believes he's a hot mess.

Zombo said:

They haven't done anything stupid yet.

They've been brilliant, actually.

Zombo

Shep

Jeff Schudel ‏@jsbrownsinsider 5m

#Browns Chud: "We are not shopping Josh and we have no plans to trade Josh." He was responding to ESPN report about trade talks with 49ers.

(Well there's that.)

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@shep said:

Jeff Schudel ‏@jsbrownsinsider 5m

#Browns Chud: "We are not shopping Josh and we have no plans to trade Josh." He was responding to ESPN report about trade talks with 49ers.

(Well there's that.)

You missed the tweet right beneath it- Sheard and Groves are practicing again. If we can hold the Lions to a couple field goals we got a chance- all depends if Megatron plays. The guy is uncoverable.

Booty Loaf

@hoorta said:

You missed the tweet right beneath it- Sheard and Groves are practicing again. If we can hold the Lions to a couple field goals we got a chance- all depends if Megatron plays. The guy is uncoverable.

lions dont have a very good secondary, at all..... norv and chud should be able to gameplan good enough for us to get points. i see no less than 17 points sunday. i want to see benjamin involved in the offense this week too. and expect at least 4-5 throws 40+ yards down field.

The Gipper

@hoorta said:

You missed the tweet right beneath it- Sheard and Groves are practicing again. If we can hold the Lions to a couple field goals we got a chance- all depends if Megatron plays. The guy is uncoverable.

Well, you see what Haden did with AJ Green....the closest thing in the league to Megatron. If JH can come up with a similar performance....and I expect him to do so, we could be in pretty good shape.