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  • They should review the penalites called by the bonehead referees, the NFL needs to fix the officiating consistency. I watched the stupid white haired ref throw the PI call on Haden at the start of the game. Even full speed, there was nothing even close to PI, he threw the flag, gives DET 7 points.

    Officiating is ruining the integrity of the game. This was a perfect example of the Browns being negatively affected, theyre chances of winning being vastly diminished by horrid calls. Refs must maintain control of the game and its rules. Sunday at Cleveland they didnt do that. Unacceptable for pro officiating.

    @typicalbrowns said:

    They should review the penalites called by the bonehead referees, the NFL needs to fix the officiating consistency. I watched the stupid white haired ref throw the PI call on Haden at the start of the game. Even full speed, there was nothing even close to PI, he threw the flag, gives DET 7 points.

    Officiating is ruining the integrity of the game. This was a perfect example of the Browns being negatively affected, theyre chances of winning being vastly diminished by horrid calls. Refs must maintain control of the game and its rules. Sunday at Cleveland they didnt do that. Unacceptable for pro officiating.

    i agree totally.

    i know these guys go thru training and shit but some of the calls are just plain bad.

    that's why CBs are going to be as important to the defense as the pass rusher. it's the hardest position to play right now behind, of course, the QB position. now you have to turn around and look for the ball while guarding a receiver tight or it's an automatic flag. you know what an advantage that gives the receiver? GTFO!

  • This league is a joke.

  • Suh fined $31,500 for hit on Weeden..

  • Suh fined $31,500 for hit on Weeden..

    @mark-o said:

    Suh fined $31,500 for hit on Weeden..

    Great! ANOTHER fine for the dirtiest punk to ever hit the league. Totally "ball-less"! Between the incompetent refs & watered down handling of Suh over the last couple years, the NFL front office has lost their credibility with me. They need to quit worrying about overseas games & take care of business here. Just looking at some of the stuff Suh has done on a pretty consistent basis, are they going to wait until he paralyzes someone (or worse)? Suhs' ass should be out of the league. It's way past time to send a message & set an example that the NFL won't tolerate dirty play. IMHO, it's time to eliminate dirty players rather than throwing ridiculous rules out there that are penalizing players who simply play hard without cheap shotting.

    Mike

  • Sorry, but if this was a dirty hit then there are no clean hits... at least not on the QB.

    The ball was just out of Wheezy's hand... so was not a late hit...

    The man's head is up...

    He's not launched...

    He did not wrap up and pull in...

    Clearly this was a reputation fine.

    suh-hit-weeden-nfl.jpg

  • All I can say is I told you so and WOW.

  • Sorry, but if this was a dirty hit then there are no clean hits... at least not on the QB.

    The ball was just out of Wheezy's hand... so was not a late hit...

    The man's head is up...

    He's not launched...

    He did not wrap up and pull in...

    Clearly this was a reputation fine.

    suh-hit-weeden-nfl.jpg

    @tour2ma said:

    Sorry, but if this was a dirty hit then there are no clean hits... at least not on the QB.

    The ball was just out of Wheezy's hand... so was not a late hit...

    The man's head is up...

    He's not launched...

    He did not wrap up and pull in...

    Clearly this was a reputation fine.

    suh-hit-weeden-nfl.jpg

    i agree no dirty hit. maybe it was a little late, but that the only thing i could find wrong with this. puts his hands on him first, which means he was not leading with his helmet, and hits him in the chest. that's exactly what the league wants nowadays in the hit zone. hey he could have always gone after his knees which is totally legal now.

    but he IS the dirtiest scumbag to play the game right behind lambert and butkus.

  • @tour2ma said:

    Sorry, but if this was a dirty hit then there are no clean hits... at least not on the QB.

    The ball was just out of Wheezy's hand... so was not a late hit...

    The man's head is up...

    He's not launched...

    He did not wrap up and pull in...

    Clearly this was a reputation fine.

    suh-hit-weeden-nfl.jpg

    i agree no dirty hit. maybe it was a little late, but that the only thing i could find wrong with this. puts his hands on him first, which means he was not leading with his helmet, and hits him in the chest. that's exactly what the league wants nowadays in the hit zone. hey he could have always gone after his knees which is totally legal now.

    but he IS the dirtiest scumbag to play the game right behind lambert and butkus.

    @miktoxic said:

    but he IS the dirtiest scumbag to play the game right behind lambert and butkus.

    Agree that he's in a class by himself, but would compare him to Conrad Dobler... my gold standard for dirty players.

  • Sorry, but if this was a dirty hit then there are no clean hits... at least not on the QB.

    The ball was just out of Wheezy's hand... so was not a late hit...

    The man's head is up...

    He's not launched...

    He did not wrap up and pull in...

    Clearly this was a reputation fine.

    suh-hit-weeden-nfl.jpg

    @tour2ma said:

    Sorry, but if this was a dirty hit then there are no clean hits... at least not on the QB.

    The ball was just out of Wheezy's hand... so was not a late hit...

    The man's head is up...

    He's not launched...

    He did not wrap up and pull in...

    Clearly this was a reputation fine.

    suh-hit-weeden-nfl.jpg

    LOL how F**king stupid can you be. You lead with your helmet and hit the QB its a penalty and your going to get fined its been that way for years. From the angle shown it doesn't look like the ref could have seen it. Whether or not you like the rule it is the rule.

  • @tour2ma said:

    Sorry, but if this was a dirty hit then there are no clean hits... at least not on the QB.

    The ball was just out of Wheezy's hand... so was not a late hit...

    The man's head is up...

    He's not launched...

    He did not wrap up and pull in...

    Clearly this was a reputation fine.

    suh-hit-weeden-nfl.jpg

    LOL how F**king stupid can you be. You lead with your helmet and hit the QB its a penalty and your going to get fined its been that way for years. From the angle shown it doesn't look like the ref could have seen it. Whether or not you like the rule it is the rule.

    @richiswhere said:

    LOL how F**king stupid can you be. You lead with your helmet and hit the QB its a penalty and your going to get fined its been that way for years. From the angle shown it doesn't look like the ref could have seen it. Whether or not you like the rule it is the rule.

    Clearly not as stupid as you...

    Or at least not as subjective.

    That, my friend, is a picture perfect form tackle.

    His head is up...

    He is seeing what he is hitting...

    No contact to Wheezy's head...

    And clearly not below Wheezy's knees.

    And where do you think his left shoulder is?

    He is NOT leading with his helmet... period.

    I guess the only solution left is to decapitate all defenders...

    Problem solved!

  • @richiswhere said:

    LOL how F**king stupid can you be. You lead with your helmet and hit the QB its a penalty and your going to get fined its been that way for years. From the angle shown it doesn't look like the ref could have seen it. Whether or not you like the rule it is the rule.

    Clearly not as stupid as you...

    Or at least not as subjective.

    That, my friend, is a picture perfect form tackle.

    His head is up...

    He is seeing what he is hitting...

    No contact to Wheezy's head...

    And clearly not below Wheezy's knees.

    And where do you think his left shoulder is?

    He is NOT leading with his helmet... period.

    I guess the only solution left is to decapitate all defenders...

    Problem solved!

    Are you really this stupid

    @tour2ma said:

    Clearly not as stupid as you...

    Or at least not as subjective.

    That, my friend, is a picture perfect form tackle.

    His head is up...

    He is seeing what he is hitting...

    No contact to Wheezy's head...

    And clearly not below Wheezy's knees.

    And where do you think his left shoulder is?

    He is NOT leading with his helmet... period.

    I guess the only solution left is to decapitate all defenders...

    Problem solved!

    Are you really that fucking stupid he lead with his helmet and now he got fined plain and simple fucking moron.

  • Lambert dirty? Give me a break! Fierce? Yes. Intense? Damn straight! You want to talk dirty, then talk Tatum not Lambert!

  • I wish someone would just absolutely crush Suh

  • Are you really this stupid

    @tour2ma said:

    Clearly not as stupid as you...

    Or at least not as subjective.

    That, my friend, is a picture perfect form tackle.

    His head is up...

    He is seeing what he is hitting...

    No contact to Wheezy's head...

    And clearly not below Wheezy's knees.

    And where do you think his left shoulder is?

    He is NOT leading with his helmet... period.

    I guess the only solution left is to decapitate all defenders...

    Problem solved!

    Are you really that fucking stupid he lead with his helmet and now he got fined plain and simple fucking moron.

    @richiswhere said:

    Are you really this stupid

    Are you really that fucking stupid he lead with his helmet and now he got fined plain and simple fucking moron.

    Maybe if you cuss and insult me a little more you'll persuade me...

    Thanks for the link, Po...

    Based upon the end zone shot and the way Wheezy was turing away, it looks to me like a pretty solid left shoulder shot...

    Rick? Care to pull your head out of your ass and actually look at the play?

    Or can try the cussing route again... your call Sparky...

  • I don't think that's the picture of the hit that he was fined for.

    The one I saw on Yahoo, was the hit he had where he chased him out of the pocket, and rolled him over and slammed him into the ground and spun his helmet sideways. (I'd post a picture, but can't get to photobucket right now) Although if you read the article it talks about Suh spearing Weeden, but the picture is of the other play. Maybe they don't even know and just fine him randomly.

    Here is the Yahoo link.

    http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/report-lions-ndamukong-suh-fined-31-500-hit-213924834--nfl.html

    (don't think that hit needed a fine either... just looked like there momentum carried them over like that)

  • I don't think that's the picture of the hit that he was fined for.

    The one I saw on Yahoo, was the hit he had where he chased him out of the pocket, and rolled him over and slammed him into the ground and spun his helmet sideways. (I'd post a picture, but can't get to photobucket right now) Although if you read the article it talks about Suh spearing Weeden, but the picture is of the other play. Maybe they don't even know and just fine him randomly.

    Here is the Yahoo link.

    http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/report-lions-ndamukong-suh-fined-31-500-hit-213924834--nfl.html

    (don't think that hit needed a fine either... just looked like there momentum carried them over like that)

    @hx214 said:

    I don't think that's the picture of the hit that he was fined for.

    The one I saw on Yahoo, was the hit he had where he chased him out of the pocket, and rolled him over and slammed him into the ground and spun his helmet sideways. (I'd post a picture, but can't get to photobucket right now) Although if you read the article it talks about Suh spearing Weeden, but the picture is of the other play. Maybe they don't even know and just fine him randomly.

    Here is the Yahoo link.

    http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/report-lions-ndamukong-suh-fined-31-500-hit-213924834--nfl.html

    (don't think that hit needed a fine either... just looked like there momentum carried them over like that)

    i don't understand neither play was dirty. Neither got flagged. I'm still infuriated by tthe Groves flag at the end of the game. Complete and utter horseshit.

  • Are you really this stupid

    @tour2ma said:

    Clearly not as stupid as you...

    Or at least not as subjective.

    That, my friend, is a picture perfect form tackle.

    His head is up...

    He is seeing what he is hitting...

    No contact to Wheezy's head...

    And clearly not below Wheezy's knees.

    And where do you think his left shoulder is?

    He is NOT leading with his helmet... period.

    I guess the only solution left is to decapitate all defenders...

    Problem solved!

    Are you really that fucking stupid he lead with his helmet and now he got fined plain and simple fucking moron.

    @richiswhere said:

    Are you really this stupid

    Are you really that fucking stupid he lead with his helmet and now he got fined plain and simple fucking moron.

    I normally just lurk, created an account just for this idiot. STFU and say something educated rather then throwing around insults.. It was a legal hit, the NFL won't be popular in 5-10 years, QB's will have on yellow jerseys and if you go within a five yard "buffer" zone of them you will be flagged. Such a joke

  • @richiswhere said:

    Are you really this stupid

    Are you really that fucking stupid he lead with his helmet and now he got fined plain and simple fucking moron.

    I normally just lurk, created an account just for this idiot. STFU and say something educated rather then throwing around insults.. It was a legal hit, the NFL won't be popular in 5-10 years, QB's will have on yellow jerseys and if you go within a five yard "buffer" zone of them you will be flagged. Such a joke

    @wellhungsmurf said:

    I normally just lurk, created an account just for this idiot. STFU before I find you and beat you senseless.. It was a legal hit, the NFL won't be popular in 5-10 years, QB's will have on yellow jerseys and if you go within a five yard "buffer" zone of them you will be flagged. Such a joke

    It's too bad you didn't post earlier ... "Well Hung Smurf" would have looked good on the back of the Tailgate T-shirt.

    Zombo

  • Firstly, everything Rich says is just wrong...so we know that it's not because he led with his helmet.

    I can't recall specifically which hit it was, but any hit that takes Weeden to the ground after he releases the ball is technically considered illegal.

    There is no longer a "buffer zone" of one or two steps.

    If the ball is released and you take the QB to the ground, you can technically be called for roughing the passer.

    It's a stupid rule, and it bit us in the ass with the Groves penalty, but the refs are within their rights to call it.

    The NFL is becoming a joke. Sure, we need to eliminate as much risk as possible, but now they're messing with the integrity of the game.