Tebow Sighting

[hoorta]

Zombo said:

Let's sign this guy!:

Hey, Colt McCoy's college highlights looked pretty good too.

What I took away from that- most of those receivers were wide open, most of them were slow developing plays that gave Weeden time. AND ON ALL OF THEM WEEDEN HAD A TEXTBOOK POCKET TO THROW OUT OF, WHEN HE WASN'T ROLLING OUT. He's fucking phenomenal with no pressure on him- but so is every damn quarterback that makes it to the NFL level.

[USFBrown]

No to Tebow!

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/10/15/browns-wont-be-adding-tebow/

Browns won’t be adding Tebow

Posted by Mike Florio on October 15, 2013, 7:51 PM EDT

AP

The clocks are the Factory of Gladness won’t be set for Tebow time any time soon. Or ever.

Rumors of a Tebow sighting at the Cleveland airport have sparked rumors of the Browns signing Tebow. They aren’t.

A league source tells PFT that the Browns won’t be adding Tebow to a quarterback depth chart that is currently short on quarterback talent.

While Browns G.M. Mike Lombardi praised Tebow during the height of Tebowmania, Lombardi said in May that Tebow doesn’t fit the current vision for the franchise.

Even with Brandon Weeden struggling and Jason Campbell not showing enough to leapfrog the 2012 first-round pick, Tebow will continue to be unemployed by the Browns, and any other NFL team.

[miktoxic]

let's hope whoever 'sighted' tim tebow at the airport was either blind as a bat or didn't realize he was waiting on a connecting flight to jacksonville.

[jrb12711]

@tim-couch-pulls-out said:

Tyler Thigpen, Matt Flynn (until yesterday), Chud Pennington, Bernie Kosar.

Any QB that doesn't turn the ball over gives us a better chance to win than Weeden.

Problem is...we don't want to pay for a one year patch.

I'll have to disagree with ya Tim. I don't think it would help to bring in an equally crappy QB to play equally crappy football just in a different way. There's a good reason the current FA's are available. I'm in no way endorsing Weeden here, but at this point it might as well be Weeden/Campbell or bust. It really does suck but it's the unfortunate truth. If we had an elite run game, I'd be all for getting a Thigpen. But right now as stupid as it sounds Weeden gives us the best chance to put points on the board.

[Shep]

Let's be honest: The moment Brian Hoyer went down, the chances of this being a "special season" evaporated. Weeden "is what we thought he was," a guy with a big arm and virtually nothing else. He's played plenty of football and doesn't seem to have a clue as far as reading a defense, negotiating a pocket, dealing with pressure... all the nuances of the position that add up to something much, much bigger.

He won't be the quarterback next year and probably won't be on the roster. And the truth is, we're back to where we were before Hoyer-mania, realizing that we need That Guy at quarterback, so trying to scrape out 7 wins with a more efficient band-aid doesn't really accomplish anything over the long haul.

With Weeden, we're likely to lose 10 games, give or take, and draft in the top 8 or so with another first rounder already slated to help us move up. We'll draft one of the top 3 QBs in a very good QB draft. Right now, today, the top four are Bridgewater, Mariota (closing that gap fast), Hundley and Boyd. The top 3 will come from that group. The Browns have also shown a ton of scouting attention to Johnny Manziel. Questions about his ability to succeed from the pocket seem to be fading after his offseason with George Whitfield. He's looked more like an NFL quarterback this season while also offering that "wow factor" on less conventional plays. I'd probably include him and stretch the list of candidates to five.

My fear on Hundley is this: One of the draftnicks, maybe Jeremiah, said he seems to lack the mental polish that the other top guys possess. I believe CBS said something similar, that he has a lot of "DOH" plays amidst all the promise (of which there is tons). Of that entire group, he's the only one I've read that about... and I frankly think Weeden's a bit of a dim bulb and I'm weary of it. Maybe not flat out Derek Anderson stupid, but not in the zip code of a Luck or Wilson, let alone Peyton, Brady, Brees, or Rodgers.

Bridgewater and Boyd are literally saturated with "intangibles," both smart and mature kids. I don't know much about Mariota off the field but on it he's right there with RG3 with that combo of speed and arm talent. Seriously rare. Tough to think of many other guys who had both. And Manziel is as much fun as you can have watching football with your clothes on. Which I plan to try at some point.

My preference would be Bridgewater, Mariota, or Boyd. They're all awesome. The first two are super "clean" as prospects while Boyd brings the height question (but that's it).

[Kosar_For_President]

I just saw Tebow.

[miktoxic]

@kosar_for_president said:

I just saw Tebow.

then turn over. and let him go back into your closet.

[Tour2ma]

@cdl15 said:

It would be Tim Teabags swan song. Can u imagine if he won 8 outta 10 and beat someone good in the playoffs.

Ummm.... no... but I am imagination deficient...

Prolly all that science and stuff I believe in...

@cdl15 said:

Weeden is not the worst qb we've had since 99... Actually he's probably more towards the other end of the scale when u look at all the numbers.

Do you know just how sad the above truth made me feel?

@koalabazooka said:

To quote a film I just finished watching: no mas.

That was 90 minutes of my life I'll never get back...

@tim-couch-pulls-out said:

I don't know what football you've been watching but Chud Pennington was one of the most efficient quarterbacks to play the game.

Talk about a career derailed by injury. Chud's may only be 2nd to Greg Cook's.

EDIT: Why does Ch(a)d autocorrect to Chud?

@shep said:

Let's be honest: The moment Brian Hoyer went down, the chances of this being a "special season" evaporated.

Ah, but had Wheezy not gone down first, we'd have never known how close it was to being a special season...

[Westside Steve]

And when Hoyer went down it gave us all the opportunity to fantasize that it was going to be a special season. After two losses you guys would hate him just as bad.

WSS

[miktoxic]

@westside-steve said:

And when Hoyer went down it gave us all the opportunity to fantasize that it was going to be a special season. After two losses you guys would hate him just as bad.

WSS

true that.

believe me there's a lot more wrong on this team than just the QB position. BUT the players did sense a kind of leadership with hoyer in the huddle and on the sidelines that weeden just doesn't possess. he looks like the 'aw shucks' kid that stands around and kicks rocks with nothing to do. look at all the great QBs in this league, if you fuck up on running your route or miss a block they are all up in those players face grabbing their face masks and calling them out in front of the rest of the team. weeden looks like he could give a shit. i think the mold of that big time leadership guy was broken and don't know if they have fixed it yet in anyone i see coming out next year.

on the other hand steve if hoyer hadn't gone down and we had beat detroit, cleveland would be in a frenzy right now.

every team get's bit by the injury bug and he fucking bit our best QB option (for this year IMO) right in the ass.

[Westside Steve]

Sure he looked pretty good for a time. So, as I keep repeating, did Kelly Holcomb.

What was the score of the game when Hoyer got hurt and what was the final score?

WSS

[miktoxic]

@westside-steve said:

Sure he looked pretty good for a time. So, as I keep repeating, did Kelly Holcomb.

What was the score of the game when Hoyer got hurt and what was the final score?

WSS

i don't know and i really don't care, but if you didn't feel a different type of energy coming from the team and the fans then you must be paralyzed and blind.

hey i never thought he would win a game, let survive a quarter in this league. i don't think anyone has suggested he was going to be the next aaron rodgers, but after seeing weeden play and then hoyer play, it was a no-brainer as to who was going to give the browns the best chance to win more games.

i'm not bashing weeden. i hope he turns this thing around. i just don't think he has that thing between his ears that gives him that flow during the game. hell, he might be the best practice QB in the league and he might be able to ramble off what the defense is going to do sitting in front of a chalkboard. but that means doodly squat on sundays.

the cleveland QB curse continues.

[Cbus Brownie]

@westside-steve said:

Sure he looked pretty good for a time. So, as I keep repeating, did Kelly Holcomb.

What was the score of the game when Hoyer got hurt and what was the final score?

WSS

You're joking. Right, Steve?

[Tim Couch Pulls Out]

@westside-steve said:

Sure he looked pretty good for a time. So, as I keep repeating, did Kelly Holcomb.

What was the score of the game when Hoyer got hurt and what was the final score?

WSS

If you're implying Weeden won us the Buffalo game, I'd be careful.

That will really upset Ward and Benjamin, the guys who actually won us that game.

[Westside Steve]

So gee I'm sorry Ward.

Maybe that's payback for losing the Detroit game and letting Weeden take the blame.

I've said it often enough I have no particular affection for Brandon Weeden. I just think it's ridiculous the way some of these guys go on and on about one position.

did you guys listen to the game on TV? Every time the Lions were three and seven or three and eight they would say this is just what Norv Turner loves! This is just the kind of 3rd down situation where he has all the options to work with. And then, bang, first down lions.

sure I'd have liked to see Brian Hoyer be Brian Sipe. I wanted to see Charlie Frye and Eric Zeier and Brady Quinn be Brian Sipe.

But even for you who think we'd be better off to put a uniform on your fucking paperboy this Sunday ......

WSS

[miktoxic]

@westside-steve said:

So gee I'm sorry Ward.

Maybe that's payback for losing the Detroit game and letting Weeden take the blame.

I've said it often enough I have no particular affection for Brandon Weeden. I just think it's ridiculous the way some of these guys go on and on about one position.

did you guys listen to the game on TV? Every time the Lions were three and seven or three and eight they would say this is just what Norv Turner loves! This is just the kind of 3rd down situation where he has all the options to work with. And then, bang, first down lions.

sure I'd have liked to see Brian Hoyer be Brian Sipe. I wanted to see Charlie Frye and Eric Zeier and Brady Quinn be Brian Sipe.

But even for you who think we'd be better off to put a uniform on your fucking paperboy this Sunday ......

WSS

wow steve, this is the most impassioned reply from you since you gave a bad movie review on the movie review forum.

nobody thinks that we are just playing weeden for the fuck of it. that's all that there's left to do. IMO if weeds blows and we're down by 2 tds come sunday then put campbell in and see if he can do better.

it's not like we hate weeden. it's that we hate weeden when he plays football, in the pocket with no sense of a pass rush, can't read the defense and throws pick 6s.

on any other team the dude would be benched and go to your next guy in line.

is there something that you see in weeden that everyone else doesn't?

[LBC mike]

can Tebow be used as any kinda of weapon on offensive. can he play TE, FB, QB, RG....?

[Lambert_58]

It´s not a question if he CAN play a position besides QB, it´s just that he WON´T play any other position. It´s his dream to be an NFL QB and no other position will do.

[LBC mike]

he is a douche then. let him be unemployed.

[Zombo]

@lambert_58 said:

It´s not a question if he CAN play a position besides QB, it´s just that he WON´T play any other position. It´s his dream to be an NFL QB and no other position will do.

Its not our fault that he is stupid.

And he is never, ever, ever running Norv Turners offense. Weeden and Campbell could be killed in a car wreck tomorrow and we wouldn't give Tebow a whiff.

John Fox completely redid his offense when he was stuck with Teblow to give his team a chance

.... That's not happening here... Let me put a Mercy Kill to this thread.

Z