Official Browns QB Prospect Discussion!
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So far today I have watched a little bit of Mettenberg, some Manziel and some Boyd. Currently I am watching Mariota. Obviously the big names that I didn't watch this week are Hundley and Bridgewater. Of everyone I have seen I am most impressed by Mariota. He has nice size to take those hits that the smaller players like Manziel and Bridgewater will have more trouble with. He is quick on his feet and can extend/create plays. Haven't seen the full compliment of throws yet but I have no worries that he can make everything.
Well... a lot of name QBs struggled this weekend.
Meanwhile my game manager rolls on...
Alabama C/ATT YDS AVG TD INT
McCarron 15/21 180 8.6 3 0
So far today I have watched a little bit of Mettenberg, some Manziel and some Boyd. Currently I am watching Mariota. Obviously the big names that I didn't watch this week are Hundley and Bridgewater. Of everyone I have seen I am most impressed by Mariota.
Mettenberg has never impressed me. Yet to see Mariota.
you guys think we could take braxton with that indy pick or would we have to use our 1st?
If he comes out, I do not think it will take a first... As hoorta mentioned, concern is with his injuries, a couple of which have been concussions. While he may not be a run first NFL QB, he will run and does not seem to have the knack of protecting himself that you see in some running QBs, e.g., Wilson and Kaepernick.
I'd rather have Guiton
Guiton worked his way into somebody's camp with his stint this year. Not even sure it will take a draft pick to get him there, but if it does it is likely to only be a 7th.
Myers has already stated that he wants him to join his staff as a Graduate Assistant. Pretty good endorsement there that while true I am also sure was meant to generate a little more NFL interest in him
Boyd, Murray and Bridgewater hurt their draft hype today. Mettenberger really hurt his prospects, throwing 3 picks.
Yup... and can add to that list:
- Hundley to that list; and
- Manziel after he hurts his throwing shoulder.
Could hear big thuds all over the country.
I thought Manziel was a kid that had the self-protection instinct to stay healthy. Just shows that all it takes is one bad decision.
would you give up our 2 first rounders and our 2nd for Mariota or Bridgewater?
No...
my dream right now (and of course they always change) would be for hoyer to come back healthy 100% and lead the team next year to 10 wins and do it again the next year and THEN draft the kid from florida state.
Going to take quite a package to move up... especially from 10-6. Kid has the look of an overall #1 right now...
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Winston will be able to enter the draft after next season.
I say we take a middle round guy, give Hoyer a shot and then go for Winston.
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Heh
So how many quarterbacks will be drafted this next season? And how many will be complete busts how many will even play at a mediocre level? And how many will wind up being franchise quarterbacks? I wonder what the average is year after year.
As to the trade I don't actually see any of these guys being worth our first pick alone. Let alone combined picks..
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Heh
So how many quarterbacks will be drafted this next season? And how many will be complete busts how many will even play at a mediocre level? And how many will wind up being franchise quarterbacks? I wonder what the average is year after year.
As to the trade I don't actually see any of these guys being worth our first pick alone. Let alone combined picks..
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Heh
So how many quarterbacks will be drafted this next season? And how many will be complete busts how many will even play at a mediocre level? And how many will wind up being franchise quarterbacks? I wonder what the average is year after year.
As to the trade I don't actually see any of these guys being worth our first pick alone. Let alone combined picks..
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I agree. I hope that we use our two #1s to make the team better at positions other than QB and we take our hopeful franchise QB somewhere in rounds 2-4, and let him learn, compete and grow with Hoyer. I saw enough of Hoyer that makes me think he can be our QB and would roll with that gamble, rather than gamble with one of Mel Kiper's "can't miss" QBs that requires us to give away too much for a complete unknown.
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I really hope we don't pick up a QB with any of our 1 rounders. We can get a decent one with another pick. Hoyer will be back and I really think we should get that kid from the CFL as a backup. with the draft pick be our third stringer.
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What the hell happened to all those QBs this weekend?
I really hated watching Boyd, Murray, Mettenberger, Bridgewater, Hundley, and Manziel. Watching these guys live dropped them all a couple notches in my opinion. I know it's just one game, and I've seen good things from them in other games, but these guys struggled... and all lost to make it worse.
I still like what I've seen from another redshirt junior Bryce Petty from Baylor. He has the top QB Rating in all of college football and is eligible to come out if he wanted to. He looks pretty darn good, but probably will and should stay in college one more year.
Another good QB who continues to perform like an NFL prospect is Derek Carr. 33-48, 412 yds, and 4 TDs continuing to keep his team undefeated.
I'm all about Winston from FSU, but I don't want the Browns to stink for 2 more years just to get the #1 pick.
Liked McCarron and Mariota but I don't see anything spectacular from either of them. Mariota is still a run-first guy. GMs will drool over the guy but I have yet to see a player like him win a Super Bowl. He's an upgrade over Weeden, no doubt, but I wouldn't stake the franchise on him just yet... Let him go to Jacksonville.
Right now, I'm starting to be on board with hoping Hoyer is the guy for next year, and let him teach a late 1st or 2nd round guy (Carr or McCarron right now) for a season or two...
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What the hell happened to all those QBs this weekend?
I really hated watching Boyd, Murray, Mettenberger, Bridgewater, Hundley, and Manziel. Watching these guys live dropped them all a couple notches in my opinion. I know it's just one game, and I've seen good things from them in other games, but these guys struggled... and all lost to make it worse.
I still like what I've seen from another redshirt junior Bryce Petty from Baylor. He has the top QB Rating in all of college football and is eligible to come out if he wanted to. He looks pretty darn good, but probably will and should stay in college one more year.
Another good QB who continues to perform like an NFL prospect is Derek Carr. 33-48, 412 yds, and 4 TDs continuing to keep his team undefeated.
I'm all about Winston from FSU, but I don't want the Browns to stink for 2 more years just to get the #1 pick.
Liked McCarron and Mariota but I don't see anything spectacular from either of them. Mariota is still a run-first guy. GMs will drool over the guy but I have yet to see a player like him win a Super Bowl. He's an upgrade over Weeden, no doubt, but I wouldn't stake the franchise on him just yet... Let him go to Jacksonville.
Right now, I'm starting to be on board with hoping Hoyer is the guy for next year, and let him teach a late 1st or 2nd round guy (Carr or McCarron right now) for a season or two...
What the hell happened to all those QBs this weekend?
I really hated watching Boyd, Murray, Mettenberger, Bridgewater, Hundley, and Manziel. Watching these guys live dropped them all a couple notches in my opinion. I know it's just one game, and I've seen good things from them in other games, but these guys struggled... and all lost to make it worse.
I still like what I've seen from another redshirt junior Bryce Petty from Baylor. He has the top QB Rating in all of college football and is eligible to come out if he wanted to. He looks pretty darn good, but probably will and should stay in college one more year.
Another good QB who continues to perform like an NFL prospect is Derek Carr. 33-48, 412 yds, and 4 TDs continuing to keep his team undefeated.
I'm all about Winston from FSU, but I don't want the Browns to stink for 2 more years just to get the #1 pick.
Liked McCarron and Mariota but I don't see anything spectacular from either of them. Mariota is still a run-first guy. GMs will drool over the guy but I have yet to see a player like him win a Super Bowl. He's an upgrade over Weeden, no doubt, but I wouldn't stake the franchise on him just yet... Let him go to Jacksonville.
Right now, I'm starting to be on board with hoping Hoyer is the guy for next year, and let him teach a late 1st or 2nd round guy (Carr or McCarron right now) for a season or two...
sounds good to me.
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The two guys at the top, Heisman candidates along with Famous Jameis, put some space between themselves and everybody else (talking about Bridgewater and Mariota and we WILL trade the farm to get one, or at least try like hell).
The guy who really laid an egg was Hundley, a guy I had some suspicions about (already talk about his intellect). I still like Boyd quite a bit as the third top 10 guy but he played a terrific defense and didn't beat it. FSU got to play a much lesser defense.
Bridgewater or Mariota. This team needs to go get one. They're both very special. Mariota might benefit from 6 or 7 starts by Hoyer. Bridgewater is a day one guy.
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The two guys at the top, Heisman candidates along with Famous Jameis, put some space between themselves and everybody else (talking about Bridgewater and Mariota and we WILL trade the farm to get one, or at least try like hell).
The guy who really laid an egg was Hundley, a guy I had some suspicions about (already talk about his intellect). I still like Boyd quite a bit as the third top 10 guy but he played a terrific defense and didn't beat it. FSU got to play a much lesser defense.
Bridgewater or Mariota. This team needs to go get one. They're both very special. Mariota might benefit from 6 or 7 starts by Hoyer. Bridgewater is a day one guy.
The two guys at the top, Heisman candidates along with Famous Jameis, put some space between themselves and everybody else (talking about Bridgewater and Mariota and we WILL trade the farm to get one, or at least try like hell).
The guy who really laid an egg was Hundley, a guy I had some suspicions about (already talk about his intellect). I still like Boyd quite a bit as the third top 10 guy but he played a terrific defense and didn't beat it. FSU got to play a much lesser defense.
Bridgewater or Mariota. This team needs to go get one. They're both very special. Mariota might benefit from 6 or 7 starts by Hoyer. Bridgewater is a day one guy.
Based on your previous success with QB scouting, it's safe to assume at least one of your top two will be our of the league in two years.
I'm awesome, and I fuck dolphins. Ghoolie 12/2/2012: I have absolutely no skills, training or pride -
The two guys at the top, Heisman candidates along with Famous Jameis, put some space between themselves and everybody else (talking about Bridgewater and Mariota and we WILL trade the farm to get one, or at least try like hell).
The guy who really laid an egg was Hundley, a guy I had some suspicions about (already talk about his intellect). I still like Boyd quite a bit as the third top 10 guy but he played a terrific defense and didn't beat it. FSU got to play a much lesser defense.
Bridgewater or Mariota. This team needs to go get one. They're both very special. Mariota might benefit from 6 or 7 starts by Hoyer. Bridgewater is a day one guy.
Based on your previous success with QB scouting, it's safe to assume at least one of your top two will be our of the league in two years.
Based on your previous success with QB scouting, it's safe to assume at least one of your top two will be our of the league in two years.
gotta love some TCPO. never holds back.
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what do you think of the kid from LSU?
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Based on your previous success with QB scouting, it's safe to assume at least one of your top two will be our of the league in two years.
gotta love some TCPO. never holds back.
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Winston will be able to enter the draft after next season.
I say we take a middle round guy, give Hoyer a shot and then go for Winston.
Winston will be able to enter the draft after next season.
I say we take a middle round guy, give Hoyer a shot and then go for Winston.
Win less for Jameis?
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Winston will be able to enter the draft after next season.
I say we take a middle round guy, give Hoyer a shot and then go for Winston.
Winston will be able to enter the draft after next season.
I say we take a middle round guy, give Hoyer a shot and then go for Winston.
I know everyone keeps saying the 2014 draft is deep at QB, but I just don't get it. Bridgewater and Winston are the only two that look like NFL starters to me. Since Bridgewater is likely gone before the Browns draft, your plan for Winston sounds good to me!
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Winston will be able to enter the draft after next season.
I say we take a middle round guy, give Hoyer a shot and then go for Winston.
Winston will be able to enter the draft after next season.
I say we take a middle round guy, give Hoyer a shot and then go for Winston.
Middle round guy, like, say AJ McCarron?
And your Blake Bortles guy(I'll admit I didn't know who he was before you mentioned him) impressed the shit out of me. Not just the end of the game, he just seems to have great instincts.
EDIT: As deep as many say this draft is QB-wise, I don't see many day 1 starters. As much as I like Bridgewater, he still has a lot to improve upon and could benefit from sitting a year or two.
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Johnny Cash.
I do not understand the love for the guy.
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Johnny Cash.
I do not understand the love for the guy.
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I do understand. I feel that way about The Grateful Dead. I suppose you can chalk to up to either you do or either you don't.
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Winston will be able to enter the draft after next season.
I say we take a middle round guy, give Hoyer a shot and then go for Winston.
Middle round guy, like, say AJ McCarron?
And your Blake Bortles guy(I'll admit I didn't know who he was before you mentioned him) impressed the shit out of me. Not just the end of the game, he just seems to have great instincts.
EDIT: As deep as many say this draft is QB-wise, I don't see many day 1 starters. As much as I like Bridgewater, he still has a lot to improve upon and could benefit from sitting a year or two.
Middle round guy, like, say AJ McCarron?
And your Blake Bortles guy(I'll admit I didn't know who he was before you mentioned him) impressed the shit out of me. Not just the end of the game, he just seems to have great instincts.
EDIT: As deep as many say this draft is QB-wise, I don't see many day 1 starters. As much as I like Bridgewater, he still has a lot to improve upon and could benefit from sitting a year or two.
I like McCarron and I wouldn't mind that in the least, but I feel like we already have McCarron's potential in Hoyer. He's efficient, quick thinking, and mobile enough, but not overly athletically gifted.
He's a guy that you let sit for a couple years and ease him into play, and let him earn his job. He's not a day 1 starter by any means, which makes him a good fit if we decide to stick with Hoyer.
Bortles played near the best I've seen him play.
What I like about him is that he is everything Weeden isn't. He's poised, stands tall in the pocket and delivers well-placed passes on time. He's a clutch player who turns broken plays into big gains and TD's. That's something we really haven't had...ever.
He's a QB that, if he were behind center today, I wouldn't have been as worried being down two scores in the 4th quarter. (That came off a little POGish)
He's now proved himself against two Top 25 teams and won both times.
He wasn't highly touted coming out of high school. He wasn't a three or four start recruit. He only had a couple offers. He plays with a chip on his shoulder, and that's a great attribute to have.
Before Hoyer, I would have said there's no way a smaller, efficient QB could succeed in Turner's offense. Now, however, I could see either McCarron or Bortles behind center for us next year.
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The two guys at the top, Heisman candidates along with Famous Jameis, put some space between themselves and everybody else (talking about Bridgewater and Mariota and we WILL trade the farm to get one, or at least try like hell).
The guy who really laid an egg was Hundley, a guy I had some suspicions about (already talk about his intellect). I still like Boyd quite a bit as the third top 10 guy but he played a terrific defense and didn't beat it. FSU got to play a much lesser defense.
Bridgewater or Mariota. This team needs to go get one. They're both very special. Mariota might benefit from 6 or 7 starts by Hoyer. Bridgewater is a day one guy.
The two guys at the top, Heisman candidates along with Famous Jameis, put some space between themselves and everybody else (talking about Bridgewater and Mariota and we WILL trade the farm to get one, or at least try like hell).
The guy who really laid an egg was Hundley, a guy I had some suspicions about (already talk about his intellect). I still like Boyd quite a bit as the third top 10 guy but he played a terrific defense and didn't beat it. FSU got to play a much lesser defense.
Bridgewater or Mariota. This team needs to go get one. They're both very special. Mariota might benefit from 6 or 7 starts by Hoyer. Bridgewater is a day one guy.
You're out of your mind- again. Harrington-Quinn- Leinart. Now go take a seat in the back of the class. We really need to give up 4 picks to take Mike Vick II.
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The two guys at the top, Heisman candidates along with Famous Jameis, put some space between themselves and everybody else (talking about Bridgewater and Mariota and we WILL trade the farm to get one, or at least try like hell).
The guy who really laid an egg was Hundley, a guy I had some suspicions about (already talk about his intellect). I still like Boyd quite a bit as the third top 10 guy but he played a terrific defense and didn't beat it. FSU got to play a much lesser defense.
Bridgewater or Mariota. This team needs to go get one. They're both very special. Mariota might benefit from 6 or 7 starts by Hoyer. Bridgewater is a day one guy.
Based on your previous success with QB scouting, it's safe to assume at least one of your top two will be our of the league in two years.
Based on your previous success with QB scouting, it's safe to assume at least one of your top two will be out of the league in two years.
lol Man I hope we don't sell the farm for the next Jamarcus, Couch, Smith, Carr, ect.., ect..., ect...
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