Official Browns QB Prospect Discussion!
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What the hell happened to all those QBs this weekend?
I really hated watching Boyd, Murray, Mettenberger, Bridgewater, Hundley, and Manziel. Watching these guys live dropped them all a couple notches in my opinion. I know it's just one game, and I've seen good things from them in other games, but these guys struggled... and all lost to make it worse.
I still like what I've seen from another redshirt junior Bryce Petty from Baylor. He has the top QB Rating in all of college football and is eligible to come out if he wanted to. He looks pretty darn good, but probably will and should stay in college one more year.
Another good QB who continues to perform like an NFL prospect is Derek Carr. 33-48, 412 yds, and 4 TDs continuing to keep his team undefeated.
I'm all about Winston from FSU, but I don't want the Browns to stink for 2 more years just to get the #1 pick.
Liked McCarron and Mariota but I don't see anything spectacular from either of them. Mariota is still a run-first guy. GMs will drool over the guy but I have yet to see a player like him win a Super Bowl. He's an upgrade over Weeden, no doubt, but I wouldn't stake the franchise on him just yet... Let him go to Jacksonville.
Right now, I'm starting to be on board with hoping Hoyer is the guy for next year, and let him teach a late 1st or 2nd round guy (Carr or McCarron right now) for a season or two...
What the hell happened to all those QBs this weekend?
I really hated watching Boyd, Murray, Mettenberger, Bridgewater, Hundley, and Manziel. Watching these guys live dropped them all a couple notches in my opinion. I know it's just one game, and I've seen good things from them in other games, but these guys struggled... and all lost to make it worse.
I still like what I've seen from another redshirt junior Bryce Petty from Baylor. He has the top QB Rating in all of college football and is eligible to come out if he wanted to. He looks pretty darn good, but probably will and should stay in college one more year.
Another good QB who continues to perform like an NFL prospect is Derek Carr. 33-48, 412 yds, and 4 TDs continuing to keep his team undefeated.
I'm all about Winston from FSU, but I don't want the Browns to stink for 2 more years just to get the #1 pick.
Liked McCarron and Mariota but I don't see anything spectacular from either of them. Mariota is still a run-first guy. GMs will drool over the guy but I have yet to see a player like him win a Super Bowl. He's an upgrade over Weeden, no doubt, but I wouldn't stake the franchise on him just yet... Let him go to Jacksonville.
Right now, I'm starting to be on board with hoping Hoyer is the guy for next year, and let him teach a late 1st or 2nd round guy (Carr or McCarron right now) for a season or two...
sounds good to me.
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The two guys at the top, Heisman candidates along with Famous Jameis, put some space between themselves and everybody else (talking about Bridgewater and Mariota and we WILL trade the farm to get one, or at least try like hell).
The guy who really laid an egg was Hundley, a guy I had some suspicions about (already talk about his intellect). I still like Boyd quite a bit as the third top 10 guy but he played a terrific defense and didn't beat it. FSU got to play a much lesser defense.
Bridgewater or Mariota. This team needs to go get one. They're both very special. Mariota might benefit from 6 or 7 starts by Hoyer. Bridgewater is a day one guy.
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The two guys at the top, Heisman candidates along with Famous Jameis, put some space between themselves and everybody else (talking about Bridgewater and Mariota and we WILL trade the farm to get one, or at least try like hell).
The guy who really laid an egg was Hundley, a guy I had some suspicions about (already talk about his intellect). I still like Boyd quite a bit as the third top 10 guy but he played a terrific defense and didn't beat it. FSU got to play a much lesser defense.
Bridgewater or Mariota. This team needs to go get one. They're both very special. Mariota might benefit from 6 or 7 starts by Hoyer. Bridgewater is a day one guy.
The two guys at the top, Heisman candidates along with Famous Jameis, put some space between themselves and everybody else (talking about Bridgewater and Mariota and we WILL trade the farm to get one, or at least try like hell).
The guy who really laid an egg was Hundley, a guy I had some suspicions about (already talk about his intellect). I still like Boyd quite a bit as the third top 10 guy but he played a terrific defense and didn't beat it. FSU got to play a much lesser defense.
Bridgewater or Mariota. This team needs to go get one. They're both very special. Mariota might benefit from 6 or 7 starts by Hoyer. Bridgewater is a day one guy.
Based on your previous success with QB scouting, it's safe to assume at least one of your top two will be our of the league in two years.
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The two guys at the top, Heisman candidates along with Famous Jameis, put some space between themselves and everybody else (talking about Bridgewater and Mariota and we WILL trade the farm to get one, or at least try like hell).
The guy who really laid an egg was Hundley, a guy I had some suspicions about (already talk about his intellect). I still like Boyd quite a bit as the third top 10 guy but he played a terrific defense and didn't beat it. FSU got to play a much lesser defense.
Bridgewater or Mariota. This team needs to go get one. They're both very special. Mariota might benefit from 6 or 7 starts by Hoyer. Bridgewater is a day one guy.
Based on your previous success with QB scouting, it's safe to assume at least one of your top two will be our of the league in two years.
Based on your previous success with QB scouting, it's safe to assume at least one of your top two will be our of the league in two years.
gotta love some TCPO. never holds back.
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what do you think of the kid from LSU?
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Based on your previous success with QB scouting, it's safe to assume at least one of your top two will be our of the league in two years.
gotta love some TCPO. never holds back.
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Winston will be able to enter the draft after next season.
I say we take a middle round guy, give Hoyer a shot and then go for Winston.
Winston will be able to enter the draft after next season.
I say we take a middle round guy, give Hoyer a shot and then go for Winston.
Win less for Jameis?
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Winston will be able to enter the draft after next season.
I say we take a middle round guy, give Hoyer a shot and then go for Winston.
Winston will be able to enter the draft after next season.
I say we take a middle round guy, give Hoyer a shot and then go for Winston.
I know everyone keeps saying the 2014 draft is deep at QB, but I just don't get it. Bridgewater and Winston are the only two that look like NFL starters to me. Since Bridgewater is likely gone before the Browns draft, your plan for Winston sounds good to me!
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Winston will be able to enter the draft after next season.
I say we take a middle round guy, give Hoyer a shot and then go for Winston.
Winston will be able to enter the draft after next season.
I say we take a middle round guy, give Hoyer a shot and then go for Winston.
Middle round guy, like, say AJ McCarron?
And your Blake Bortles guy(I'll admit I didn't know who he was before you mentioned him) impressed the shit out of me. Not just the end of the game, he just seems to have great instincts.
EDIT: As deep as many say this draft is QB-wise, I don't see many day 1 starters. As much as I like Bridgewater, he still has a lot to improve upon and could benefit from sitting a year or two.
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Johnny Cash.
I do not understand the love for the guy.
WSS
Johnny Cash.
I do not understand the love for the guy.
WSS
I do understand. I feel that way about The Grateful Dead. I suppose you can chalk to up to either you do or either you don't.
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Winston will be able to enter the draft after next season.
I say we take a middle round guy, give Hoyer a shot and then go for Winston.
Middle round guy, like, say AJ McCarron?
And your Blake Bortles guy(I'll admit I didn't know who he was before you mentioned him) impressed the shit out of me. Not just the end of the game, he just seems to have great instincts.
EDIT: As deep as many say this draft is QB-wise, I don't see many day 1 starters. As much as I like Bridgewater, he still has a lot to improve upon and could benefit from sitting a year or two.
Middle round guy, like, say AJ McCarron?
And your Blake Bortles guy(I'll admit I didn't know who he was before you mentioned him) impressed the shit out of me. Not just the end of the game, he just seems to have great instincts.
EDIT: As deep as many say this draft is QB-wise, I don't see many day 1 starters. As much as I like Bridgewater, he still has a lot to improve upon and could benefit from sitting a year or two.
I like McCarron and I wouldn't mind that in the least, but I feel like we already have McCarron's potential in Hoyer. He's efficient, quick thinking, and mobile enough, but not overly athletically gifted.
He's a guy that you let sit for a couple years and ease him into play, and let him earn his job. He's not a day 1 starter by any means, which makes him a good fit if we decide to stick with Hoyer.
Bortles played near the best I've seen him play.
What I like about him is that he is everything Weeden isn't. He's poised, stands tall in the pocket and delivers well-placed passes on time. He's a clutch player who turns broken plays into big gains and TD's. That's something we really haven't had...ever.
He's a QB that, if he were behind center today, I wouldn't have been as worried being down two scores in the 4th quarter. (That came off a little POGish)
He's now proved himself against two Top 25 teams and won both times.
He wasn't highly touted coming out of high school. He wasn't a three or four start recruit. He only had a couple offers. He plays with a chip on his shoulder, and that's a great attribute to have.
Before Hoyer, I would have said there's no way a smaller, efficient QB could succeed in Turner's offense. Now, however, I could see either McCarron or Bortles behind center for us next year.
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The two guys at the top, Heisman candidates along with Famous Jameis, put some space between themselves and everybody else (talking about Bridgewater and Mariota and we WILL trade the farm to get one, or at least try like hell).
The guy who really laid an egg was Hundley, a guy I had some suspicions about (already talk about his intellect). I still like Boyd quite a bit as the third top 10 guy but he played a terrific defense and didn't beat it. FSU got to play a much lesser defense.
Bridgewater or Mariota. This team needs to go get one. They're both very special. Mariota might benefit from 6 or 7 starts by Hoyer. Bridgewater is a day one guy.
The two guys at the top, Heisman candidates along with Famous Jameis, put some space between themselves and everybody else (talking about Bridgewater and Mariota and we WILL trade the farm to get one, or at least try like hell).
The guy who really laid an egg was Hundley, a guy I had some suspicions about (already talk about his intellect). I still like Boyd quite a bit as the third top 10 guy but he played a terrific defense and didn't beat it. FSU got to play a much lesser defense.
Bridgewater or Mariota. This team needs to go get one. They're both very special. Mariota might benefit from 6 or 7 starts by Hoyer. Bridgewater is a day one guy.
You're out of your mind- again. Harrington-Quinn- Leinart. Now go take a seat in the back of the class. We really need to give up 4 picks to take Mike Vick II.
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The two guys at the top, Heisman candidates along with Famous Jameis, put some space between themselves and everybody else (talking about Bridgewater and Mariota and we WILL trade the farm to get one, or at least try like hell).
The guy who really laid an egg was Hundley, a guy I had some suspicions about (already talk about his intellect). I still like Boyd quite a bit as the third top 10 guy but he played a terrific defense and didn't beat it. FSU got to play a much lesser defense.
Bridgewater or Mariota. This team needs to go get one. They're both very special. Mariota might benefit from 6 or 7 starts by Hoyer. Bridgewater is a day one guy.
Based on your previous success with QB scouting, it's safe to assume at least one of your top two will be our of the league in two years.
Based on your previous success with QB scouting, it's safe to assume at least one of your top two will be out of the league in two years.
lol Man I hope we don't sell the farm for the next Jamarcus, Couch, Smith, Carr, ect.., ect..., ect...
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I don't trade up for any of them. Lot's of hype for a lot of question marks.
There are a lot of decent QBs heading to the NFL, but no studs IMO. I'd rather stick with Hoyer and build around him.
JMO
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Winston will be able to enter the draft after next season.
I say we take a middle round guy, give Hoyer a shot and then go for Winston.
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I say we take a middle round guy, give Hoyer a shot and then go for Winston.
Im all for giving Hoyer a shot, but a 28 yo with only a handful of NFL starts coming back from total knee reconstruction is facing some serious challenges.
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I say we take a middle round guy, give Hoyer a shot and then go for Winston.
Im all for giving Hoyer a shot, but a 28 yo with only a handful of NFL starts coming back from total knee reconstruction is facing some serious challenges.
Im all for giving Hoyer a shot, but a 28 yo with only a handful of NFL starts coming back from total knee reconstruction is facing some serious challenges.
Yes, caution is advised, with Hoyer coming off the injury. Shep is advocating reckless abandon- bad move IMHO.
Bunch of very good prospects coming out- no world beaters
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Im all for giving Hoyer a shot, but a 28 yo with only a handful of NFL starts coming back from total knee reconstruction is facing some serious challenges.
Yes, caution is advised, with Hoyer coming off the injury. Shep is advocating reckless abandon- bad move IMHO.
Bunch of very good prospects coming out- no world beaters
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Bad news for CLE's QB draft prospects. Sam Bradford suffered a likely season-ending knee injury, STL insiders confide.
This may finally snap STL's patience with the mediocre, injury-prone Heisman winner. Their backup QB is 30-year old Kellen Clemmons, who hasn't played a full season game since 2011. STL may very well draft a QB in the 1st now, likely ahead of CLE.
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Johnny Cash.
I do not understand the love for the guy.
WSS
I do understand. I feel that way about The Grateful Dead. I suppose you can chalk to up to either you do or either you don't.
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