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  • I have been unable to see the last two game due to being out of town. I do have yesterday's game taped, so I may go back and watch it....if I can stomach it.

    But....I do have a question....Where's the damn beef? By that I mean the beef on defense.

    Yes, I see all the threads about BW3 sucking.....but, remember, when Hoyer was in there, this team was winning a game by 17-6 and the like.

    Did anyone, prior to this season starting ever believe that this team could ever win when it gave up over 30 points per game? I didn't. Any game they won I would expect it to be a low scoring game.

    But if you were to say 3 weeks ago that this team was going to give up 31 points to the Lions, 31 to the Packers and even 24 to the Bills I would have said they would definitely be going 0-3 in those games.

    I would have even said they would lose if they gave up 27 points to the Vikings.

    But they won 2 of those games.

    No, this defense needs to keep an opponent to the teens or low 20s for the Browns to have a chance to win. If they don't, no way have I expected them to win.

    Carp all you want about Weeden......but this defense has NOT held up its share of the bargain either.

  • They are not very good at getting off the field. I'm not sure what their 3rd down ranking is, but it has to be bottom 10 in the league.

  • They are not very good at getting off the field. I'm not sure what their 3rd down ranking is, but it has to be bottom 10 in the league.

    @browns149 said:

    They are not very good at getting off the field. I'm not sure what their 3rd down ranking is, but it has to be bottom 10 in the league.

    I just looked it up. They are 29th in the league on 3rd down. The only 3 teams worse are the Falcons, Giants And Vikings. Who have combined for 3 wins between them. Well 4 after tonight's horrible Monday nighter

  • @browns149 said:

    They are not very good at getting off the field. I'm not sure what their 3rd down ranking is, but it has to be bottom 10 in the league.

    I just looked it up. They are 29th in the league on 3rd down. The only 3 teams worse are the Falcons, Giants And Vikings. Who have combined for 3 wins between them. Well 4 after tonight's horrible Monday nighter

    @browns149 said:

    I just looked it up. They are 29th in the league on 3rd down. The only 3 teams worse are the Falcons, Giants And Vikings. Who have combined for 3 wins between them. Well 4 after tonight's horrible Monday nighter

    Could be a tie 😮

  • I honestly think part of the problem is Horton's blitz calls on 3rd down. Yesterday Rodgers was a statue in the pocket despite a decent of plays being blitzed. GB doesn't have the best line either so I'm wondering if it's getting scripted. I don't care what defense you are, if you give an elite guy all day to throw he's going to find someone open.

    In terms of the score it's not a coincidence with Weeden on the field that the defense is giving up more points. TOP aside, it has to become demoralizing after a while to make stop after stop to have your offense crap the bed. This defense held a top ten offensive to 17 points going into the 4th quarter. You can only bend so many times before a guy like rodgers gets to a defense.

  • I forgot about a tie. I must have Mcnabb syndrome