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Cleveland Browns have two offers for Josh Gordon of a high pick and player, report says

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  • all you guys that want three number ones realize that 2 of those would already have been spent on moving up to draft our 'new' franchise QB. so what's that leave the last pick in the first for lombardi to fuck up on again.

  • Hey first post here. The FO is turning this into a circus it's easy don't trade him.

  • all you guys that want three number ones realize that 2 of those would already have been spent on moving up to draft our 'new' franchise QB. so what's that leave the last pick in the first for lombardi to fuck up on again.

    @miktoxic said:

    all you guys that want three number ones realize that 2 of those would already have been spent on moving up to draft our 'new' franchise QB. so what's that leave the last pick in the first for lombardi to fuck up on again.

    First of all, none of us know what picks were offered. A "high draft pick" could easily be a second rounder.

    I wouldn't take it for anything less than a mediocre teams first rounder and an immediate starter.

    That would leave us with a high first round, a middle first round and a late first round pick, a second rounder, and two third rounders.

    We could easily get a starting caliber WR, QB, RB, RG, and #2 CB out of those 6 picks without having to package any picks and move up.

    With the way we're playing, we can assume we'll have a top 6 pick. With these three or four "can't miss" prospects that Shep continues to harp about, the odds are in our favor we'll get one of them.

  • @miktoxic said:

    all you guys that want three number ones realize that 2 of those would already have been spent on moving up to draft our 'new' franchise QB. so what's that leave the last pick in the first for lombardi to fuck up on again.

    First of all, none of us know what picks were offered. A "high draft pick" could easily be a second rounder.

    I wouldn't take it for anything less than a mediocre teams first rounder and an immediate starter.

    That would leave us with a high first round, a middle first round and a late first round pick, a second rounder, and two third rounders.

    We could easily get a starting caliber WR, QB, RB, RG, and #2 CB out of those 6 picks without having to package any picks and move up.

    With the way we're playing, we can assume we'll have a top 6 pick. With these three or four "can't miss" prospects that Shep continues to harp about, the odds are in our favor we'll get one of them.

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    With the way we're playing, we can assume we'll have a top 6 pick. With these three or four "can't miss" prospects that Shep continues to harp about, the odds are in our favor we'll get one of them.

    Problem is- history has shown some of Shep's "can't miss" quarterback prospects- have missed. For every Andrew Luck, there's a Jamarcus Russell. Aren't any guarantees TC.

  • @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    With the way we're playing, we can assume we'll have a top 6 pick. With these three or four "can't miss" prospects that Shep continues to harp about, the odds are in our favor we'll get one of them.

    Problem is- history has shown some of Shep's "can't miss" quarterback prospects- have missed. For every Andrew Luck, there's a Jamarcus Russell. Aren't any guarantees TC.

    @hoorta said:

    Problem is- history has shown some of Shep's "can't miss" quarterback prospects- have missed. For every Andrew Luck, there's a Jamarcus Russell. Aren't any guarantees TC.

    Oh I agree.

    A top 5 pick doesn't guarantee a franchise QB. The guy I feel best about is a mid round prospect.

  • @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    With the way we're playing, we can assume we'll have a top 6 pick. With these three or four "can't miss" prospects that Shep continues to harp about, the odds are in our favor we'll get one of them.

    Problem is- history has shown some of Shep's "can't miss" quarterback prospects- have missed. For every Andrew Luck, there's a Jamarcus Russell. Aren't any guarantees TC.

    I loathed J-Fat. And I think just about anybody can miss. But the only sure way to NOT get a great quarterback is to stop trying. Really, the Browns haven't shopped from the top since Couch.

    Stafford and Luck, like Peyton, were picked #1 overall. Ryan and RG3 were also top five.

    The Browns will pick their guy in the top 5. It's a matter of whom.

    @hoorta said:

    Problem is- history has shown some of Shep's "can't miss" quarterback prospects- have missed. For every Andrew Luck, there's a Jamarcus Russell. Aren't any guarantees TC.

  • BTW, Z, I don't wanna trade Gordon. In a passing league, a true #1 is more important than ever. Sure, WRs are almost wholly at the mercy of their QB (ask Randy Moss from his Oakland days, or Fitzgerald last year), but you want that guy who scares a defense. I'm just making the point that finding a franchise QB is hard and 100% necessary. A lot of teams with great quarterbacks have shown you can shuffle WRs in and out and keep winning.

    As far as getting the top guy in the draft, the last three years it's been Manuel, Luck, and Newton. Not bad. Others in the top 10 have been RG3, Tannehill, and Locker. Feels pretty safe... and this year's QB draft is WAY better than last year's.

    We're hitting it at a very good time.

  • @koalabazooka said:

    Did you notice the Weeden joke? 😮 Anyway, Gordon's from Houston. Practically everyone there drinks drank and/or smokes weed. Hopefully, being away from his hometown and having to worry about his salary will straighten him out. We certainly don't need him following Haden's path.

    do you live in Australia, bazooka? the koala looks like a pretty cool animal although I can't think of any animal I would trade for my ROCCO. he is six months old here and should max out at 75 lb. sorry about the topic deviation TCPO. 😁

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    @slowburn said:

    do you live in Australia, bazooka? the koala looks like a pretty cool animal although I can't think of any animal I would trade for my ROCCO. he is six months old here and should max out at 75 lb. sorry about the topic deviation TCPO. 😁

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    I just like koalas. The name really rolls off the tongue, too. Cool poodle you have.

  • I hope the FO has the same mindset as many of you... Gordon for a 1st and maybe more... I just think trading him does nothing to help this team, no matter what we get in return... But, if they are dead-set on trading him they will probably take a 2nd rounder which to me makes no sense at all...

  • We're trading Gordon, we just picked up some scrub practice squad WR from the Dolphins named Brian Tyms.

    http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/7993

  • We're trading Gordon, we just picked up some scrub practice squad WR from the Dolphins named Brian Tyms.

    http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/7993

    @bonedawg said:

    We're trading Gordon, we just picked up some scrub practice squad WR from the Dolphins named Brian Tyms.

    http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/7993

    lol Yup, it's official

  • @bonedawg said:

    We're trading Gordon, we just picked up some scrub practice squad WR from the Dolphins named Brian Tyms.

    http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/7993

    lol Yup, it's official

    @d-bone said:

    lol Yup, it's official

    Just watch, he'll be our WR2 behind Little.

  • @d-bone said:

    lol Yup, it's official

    Just watch, he'll be our WR2 behind Little.

    @bonedawg said:

    Just watch, he'll be our WR2 behind Little.

    I guess this is after we cut Bess.

  • We waived Gurley and signed this guy. Usually bottom of the roster churn. Nothing to do with starters.

  • @bonedawg said:

    Just watch, he'll be our WR2 behind Little.

    I guess this is after we cut Bess.

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    I guess this is after we cut Bess.

    Bess has had the dropsies lately. Tyms will make one good catch and them boom...WR2.

  • we didn't trade anybody yet so get off your twatter and relax.

  • We're trading Gordon, we just picked up some scrub practice squad WR from the Dolphins named Brian Tyms.

    http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/7993

    @bonedawg said:

    We're trading Gordon, we just picked up some scrub practice squad WR from the Dolphins named Brian Tyms.

    http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/7993

    Kid has had quite a rough upbringing. Nice blend of size and speed ... who knows?

    http://www.sfgate.com/49ers/article/Rookie-wideout-Tyms-runs-toward-future-3791826.php

  • we traded gordon?

    or is this some misfit speculation?

  • I loathed J-Fat. And I think just about anybody can miss. But the only sure way to NOT get a great quarterback is to stop trying. Really, the Browns haven't shopped from the top since Couch.

    Stafford and Luck, like Peyton, were picked #1 overall. Ryan and RG3 were also top five.

    The Browns will pick their guy in the top 5. It's a matter of whom.

    @hoorta said:

    Problem is- history has shown some of Shep's "can't miss" quarterback prospects- have missed. For every Andrew Luck, there's a Jamarcus Russell. Aren't any guarantees TC.

    @shep said:

    I loathed J-Fat. And I think just about anybody can miss. But the only sure way to NOT get a great quarterback is to stop trying. Really, the Browns haven't shopped from the top since Couch.

    Stafford and Luck, like Peyton, were picked #1 overall. Ryan and RG3 were also top five.

    The Browns will pick their guy in the top 5. It's a matter of whom.

    Shep recent history makes it abundantly clear you do not have to draft top 5 to land your stud qb. So if we don't give up the ranch to move into the top 5 we're not trying?

    About the worst thing you can do is reach for a quarterback if you need one, and the talent isn't there- Ponder\Gabbert. LOL, you think Weeden might possibly fall in that category too? It's going to be mighty crowded at the top this year with qb needy teams- and it's too early to speculate who will draft where. There's always surprise late risers, (and fallers) come the end of April.

    And you happen to have a real bad tendency to seriously overrate damn near every college quarterback's pro potential.

  • we traded gordon?

    or is this some misfit speculation?

    @miktoxic said:

    we traded gordon?

    or is this some misfit speculation?

    I agree with Shep- we cut Gurley-man and signed this guy, churning the bottom of the roster. Now if we had kept Gurley, there might be some heat to the Twitterverse about trading Gordon. Seriously, we're going against an undefeated KC team on the road- Weeden has been playing like crap, so let's trade his #1 target so he can shit himself once again in the wost way possible.