Cleveland Browns have two offers for Josh Gordon of a high pick and player, report says
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Hopefully, Gordon's drug use is now behind him. If CLE drafts a Luck or even a Tannehill, Gordon's value will shoot through the roof. He's thrived with garbage QBs. Which WRs are you excited about, Watkins and Evans?
The best predictor of future behavior is past behavior.
The best predictor of future behavior is past behavior.
To be fair, he was caught imbibing codeine. Not the most worrisome of drugs.
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I think everyone is infatuated with Gordon because he's the first legitimate talent at WR we've seen in a decade.
There's still a number of WR's better than him, some of which are nearly as young and don't come with the added baggage.
I say, if it's a first rounder and a legitimate starter level talent player, we'd be stupid not to take the deal. There are 3-4 good WR's in this draft, 2 of which I believe can be elite level #1 WR's.
Hopefully, Gordon's drug use is now behind him. If CLE drafts a Luck or even a Tannehill, Gordon's value will shoot through the roof. He's thrived with garbage QBs. Which WRs are you excited about, Watkins and Evans?
Hopefully, Gordon's drug use is now behind him. If CLE drafts a Luck or even a Tannehill, Gordon's value will shoot through the roof. He's thrived with garbage QBs. Which WRs are you excited about, Watkins and Evans?
Mostly Evans, but Watkins is my #2.
Only problem is his off-the-field issues as well.
I wouldn't mind Lee if he slid to the second round.
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The best predictor of future behavior is past behavior.
To be fair, he was caught imbibing codeine. Not the most worrisome of drugs.
To be fair, he was caught imbibing codeine. Not the most worrisome of drugs.
I'd be more worried about that than a little weed or some Adderrall.
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To me a high pick suggests a 1st round pick and a player for a position that the Browns need.
NE comes to mind, maybe Gordon for a 1st rounder and Mallett. Not a fan of this but it seems possible.
Atlanta seems also like a possibility with White and Jones out. Not sure what they would give us player wise. OL maybe.
Indy is a possibility for another trade. They just lost Wayne for the year and are in position to win the division. We have their 1st rounder already. Not sure what else they can give us.
49ers have been talked about before. They could offer us LaMichael James and a high draft pick.
Before I get ripped into I want everyone to know that I don't want Gordon to get traded but if the FO is going to trade him then I at least want to get something good for him.
To me a high pick suggests a 1st round pick and a player for a position that the Browns need.
NE comes to mind, maybe Gordon for a 1st rounder and Mallett. Not a fan of this but it seems possible.
Atlanta seems also like a possibility with White and Jones out. Not sure what they would give us player wise. OL maybe.
Indy is a possibility for another trade. They just lost Wayne for the year and are in position to win the division. We have their 1st rounder already. Not sure what else they can give us.
49ers have been talked about before. They could offer us LaMichael James and a high draft pick.
Before I get ripped into I want everyone to know that I don't want Gordon to get traded but if the FO is going to trade him then I at least want to get something good for him.
NE is the only option you listed that seems plausible. SF has done just fine so far and Crabtree will be back later in the season. ATL is probably going to look towards next season, which should include within it a healthy White and Jones, plus a Top 3 NCAA TE.
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Hopefully, Gordon's drug use is now behind him. If CLE drafts a Luck or even a Tannehill, Gordon's value will shoot through the roof. He's thrived with garbage QBs. Which WRs are you excited about, Watkins and Evans?
Mostly Evans, but Watkins is my #2.
Only problem is his off-the-field issues as well.
I wouldn't mind Lee if he slid to the second round.
Mostly Evans, but Watkins is my #2.
Only problem is his off-the-field issues as well.
I wouldn't mind Lee if he slid to the second round.
Damn, what shenanigans does Watkins get himself into in SC?
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To be fair, he was caught imbibing codeine. Not the most worrisome of drugs.
I'd be more worried about that than a little weed or some Adderrall.
I'd be more worried about that than a little weed or some Adderrall.
Adderall is a "cheater's drug". We wouldn't want that be hurled at the Browns' organization. He actually got busted for weeden college.
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Mostly Evans, but Watkins is my #2.
Only problem is his off-the-field issues as well.
I wouldn't mind Lee if he slid to the second round.
Damn, what shenanigans does Watkins get himself into in SC?
Damn, what shenanigans does Watkins get himself into in SC?
Drugs.
About the only thing there is to do in Clempsun.
At least he didn't inherit the "shitting all over hotel rooms" traits from that other pussyfoot WR.
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I'd be more worried about that than a little weed or some Adderrall.
Adderall is a "cheater's drug". We wouldn't want that be hurled at the Browns' organization. He actually got busted for weeden college.
Adderall is a "cheater's drug". We wouldn't want that be hurled at the Browns' organization. He actually got busted for weeden college.
I know that. And now he's escalated to purpdrank. What's next, mainlining heroin?
And too late on the Adderall, what do you think Haden got busted for?
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Damn, what shenanigans does Watkins get himself into in SC?
Drugs.
About the only thing there is to do in Clempsun.
At least he didn't inherit the "shitting all over hotel rooms" traits from that other pussyfoot WR.
At least he didn't inherit the "shitting all over hotel rooms" traits from that other pussyfoot WR.
What, lol?
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Adderall is a "cheater's drug". We wouldn't want that be hurled at the Browns' organization. He actually got busted for weeden college.
I know that. And now he's escalated to purpdrank. What's next, mainlining heroin?
And too late on the Adderall, what do you think Haden got busted for?
I know that. And now he's escalated to purpdrank. What's next, mainlining heroin?
And too late on the Adderall, what do you think Haden got busted for?
Did you notice the Weeden joke?
Anyway, Gordon's from Houston. Practically everyone there drinks drank and/or smokes weed. Hopefully, being away from his hometown and having to worry about his salary will straighten him out. We certainly don't need him following Haden's path. -
If someone is stupid enough to actually give a 1st rounder for him why on earth is any cleveland fan not utterly ecstatic about the possibilities of 3 1st round picks next year?
If someone is stupid enough to actually give a 1st rounder for him why on earth is any cleveland fan not utterly ecstatic about the possibilities of 3 1st round picks next year?
Utterly ecstatic about Richardson, Weeden and Quinn you mean? Just having the picks means nothing if you bust big time on them. It will take more than Mingo to convince me Lombardi can tell his ass from a hole in the ground when it comes to evaluating talent.
Hell, lets trade Haden & Thomas while we're at it- then we can have five first round picks.
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A draft pick is the same as going to the casino; may hit it big may bust. Gordon is Provence cant trade him
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He's gone, baby, gone.
Don't worry.
I hate to say, but I agree.
I hate to say, but I agree.
I agree, but don't hate to say it. I guess it all depends on who the other player is and what round the pick is in. A proven player at a position of need and a 2nd rounder gets it done for me. Who knows, maybe it is better than that.
It now looks like 3 teams are involved in wanting Gordon. Sooner or later one of them is going to make the offer we can't refuse.
I'd like to see this get done. I am not worried about Gordon for the rest of this season, but I do worry about what he does in the off season once he starts hanging with the people who aren't going to be a positive influence on him.
I think Gordon is a bigger risk for this team then is another draft pick. That is the deciding factor for me. His history doesn't breed confidence.
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I hate to say, but I agree.
I agree, but don't hate to say it. I guess it all depends on who the other player is and what round the pick is in. A proven player at a position of need and a 2nd rounder gets it done for me. Who knows, maybe it is better than that.
It now looks like 3 teams are involved in wanting Gordon. Sooner or later one of them is going to make the offer we can't refuse.
I'd like to see this get done. I am not worried about Gordon for the rest of this season, but I do worry about what he does in the off season once he starts hanging with the people who aren't going to be a positive influence on him.
I think Gordon is a bigger risk for this team then is another draft pick. That is the deciding factor for me. His history doesn't breed confidence.
I agree, but don't hate to say it. I guess it all depends on who the other player is and what round the pick is in. A proven player at a position of need and a 2nd rounder gets it done for me. Who knows, maybe it is better than that.
It now looks like 3 teams are involved in wanting Gordon. Sooner or later one of them is going to make the offer we can't refuse.
I'd like to see this get done. I am not worried about Gordon for the rest of this season, but I do worry about what he does in the off season once he starts hanging with the people who aren't going to be a positive influence on him.
I think Gordon is a bigger risk for this team then is another draft pick. That is the deciding factor for me. His history doesn't breed confidence.
The off season with Gordon getting back home is my big concern too & that's a HUGE risk. So far, I'm pretty pleased with the moves THIS regime has made, so let's just see what happens. His value is high right now, & that's not a bad thing.
Mike
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It's funny how one bad game can influence opinions, say if Gordon had 100+ yards and a couple of td's against GB I don't know if we'd all be ready to trade him this week.
The Gordon risk vs. draft pick risk is a good point, I think the draft pick is looking safer where we're at now we'll see, then again a bird in the hand.. or more like grenade.
As far as LomBanner goes they get no credit for Mingo since he was a top10 pick.. they did nothing with the rest of the draft. Mingo still has a lot to prove anyway, he needs to develop an inside move.. looking good so far but so did Kam Wimbley his first year.
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remember lombardi said a 2nd round pick that cleveland gave up for gordon was too much!
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I personally hate to see him go, but would not mind NE Mallet and there 1st round pick. Weeden is terrible....
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But also don't count out New Orleans. I can see there 1st round pick and there backup QB that lombardi loves.
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Have you guys heard any new rumors with this? A friend of mine said the Redskins were interested in him. I would LOVE LOVE LOVE Josh Gordon to be a Skin. I think hes going to be a top tier wr. I was told by my friend we were offering fred davis and a mid round draft pick but I didnt think he was being honest just because Jordan Cameron is setting the league on fire and Cleveland doesnt need another TE. But he then told me they want to run 2 TE sets, so I started getting my hopes up, you guys know anything new?>
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