Cleveland Browns have two offers for Josh Gordon of a high pick and player, report says

koalabazooka

@tim-couch-pulls-out said:

Mostly Evans, but Watkins is my #2.

Only problem is his off-the-field issues as well.

I wouldn't mind Lee if he slid to the second round.

Damn, what shenanigans does Watkins get himself into in SC?

koalabazooka

@tim-couch-pulls-out said:
I'd be more worried about that than a little weed or some Adderrall.

Adderall is a "cheater's drug". We wouldn't want that be hurled at the Browns' organization. He actually got busted for weeden college.

Tim Couch Pulls Out

@koalabazooka said:

Damn, what shenanigans does Watkins get himself into in SC?

Drugs.

About the only thing there is to do in Clempsun.

At least he didn't inherit the "shitting all over hotel rooms" traits from that other pussyfoot WR.

Tim Couch Pulls Out

@koalabazooka said:

Adderall is a "cheater's drug". We wouldn't want that be hurled at the Browns' organization. He actually got busted for weeden college.

I know that. And now he's escalated to purpdrank. What's next, mainlining heroin?

And too late on the Adderall, what do you think Haden got busted for?

koalabazooka

@tim-couch-pulls-out said:
At least he didn't inherit the "shitting all over hotel rooms" traits from that other pussyfoot WR.

What, lol?

koalabazooka

@tim-couch-pulls-out said:

I know that. And now he's escalated to purpdrank. What's next, mainlining heroin?

And too late on the Adderall, what do you think Haden got busted for?

Did you notice the Weeden joke? Anyway, Gordon's from Houston. Practically everyone there drinks drank and/or smokes weed. Hopefully, being away from his hometown and having to worry about his salary will straighten him out. We certainly don't need him following Haden's path.

hoorta

@clevfan4life said:
If someone is stupid enough to actually give a 1st rounder for him why on earth is any cleveland fan not utterly ecstatic about the possibilities of 3 1st round picks next year?

Utterly ecstatic about Richardson, Weeden and Quinn you mean? Just having the picks means nothing if you bust big time on them. It will take more than Mingo to convince me Lombardi can tell his ass from a hole in the ground when it comes to evaluating talent.

Hell, lets trade Haden & Thomas while we're at it- then we can have five first round picks.

Wellhungsmurf

A draft pick is the same as going to the casino; may hit it big may bust. Gordon is Provence cant trade him

ballpeen

@d-bone said:

I hate to say, but I agree.

I agree, but don't hate to say it. I guess it all depends on who the other player is and what round the pick is in. A proven player at a position of need and a 2nd rounder gets it done for me. Who knows, maybe it is better than that.

It now looks like 3 teams are involved in wanting Gordon. Sooner or later one of them is going to make the offer we can't refuse.

I'd like to see this get done. I am not worried about Gordon for the rest of this season, but I do worry about what he does in the off season once he starts hanging with the people who aren't going to be a positive influence on him.

I think Gordon is a bigger risk for this team then is another draft pick. That is the deciding factor for me. His history doesn't breed confidence.

Canton Mike

@ballpeen said:

I agree, but don't hate to say it. I guess it all depends on who the other player is and what round the pick is in. A proven player at a position of need and a 2nd rounder gets it done for me. Who knows, maybe it is better than that.

It now looks like 3 teams are involved in wanting Gordon. Sooner or later one of them is going to make the offer we can't refuse.

I'd like to see this get done. I am not worried about Gordon for the rest of this season, but I do worry about what he does in the off season once he starts hanging with the people who aren't going to be a positive influence on him.

I think Gordon is a bigger risk for this team then is another draft pick. That is the deciding factor for me. His history doesn't breed confidence.

The off season with Gordon getting back home is my big concern too & that's a HUGE risk. So far, I'm pretty pleased with the moves THIS regime has made, so let's just see what happens. His value is high right now, & that's not a bad thing.

Mike

BadNewsBrowns

It's funny how one bad game can influence opinions, say if Gordon had 100+ yards and a couple of td's against GB I don't know if we'd all be ready to trade him this week.

The Gordon risk vs. draft pick risk is a good point, I think the draft pick is looking safer where we're at now we'll see, then again a bird in the hand.. or more like grenade.

As far as LomBanner goes they get no credit for Mingo since he was a top10 pick.. they did nothing with the rest of the draft. Mingo still has a lot to prove anyway, he needs to develop an inside move.. looking good so far but so did Kam Wimbley his first year.

bigbaddawgjr

remember lombardi said a 2nd round pick that cleveland gave up for gordon was too much!

bigbaddawgjr

I personally hate to see him go, but would not mind NE Mallet and there 1st round pick. Weeden is terrible....

Soju

if we trade him for a first rounder it would be a superbowl contending team, which means it will be about 28-32nd -- aka an early second rounder.

If we could get a starting CB and Evans next yeat I'd do it though.

bigbaddawgjr

But also don't count out New Orleans. I can see there 1st round pick and there backup QB that lombardi loves.

Skinsfan28

Have you guys heard any new rumors with this? A friend of mine said the Redskins were interested in him. I would LOVE LOVE LOVE Josh Gordon to be a Skin. I think hes going to be a top tier wr. I was told by my friend we were offering fred davis and a mid round draft pick but I didnt think he was being honest just because Jordan Cameron is setting the league on fire and Cleveland doesnt need another TE. But he then told me they want to run 2 TE sets, so I started getting my hopes up, you guys know anything new?>

Soju

@skinsfan28 said:
Have you guys heard any new rumors with this? A friend of mine said the Redskins were interested in him. I would LOVE LOVE LOVE Josh Gordon to be a Skin. I think hes going to be a top tier wr. I was told by my friend we were offering fred davis and a mid round draft pick but I didnt think he was being honest just because Jordan Cameron is setting the league on fire and Cleveland doesnt need another TE. But he then told me they want to run 2 TE sets, so I started getting my hopes up, you guys know anything new?>

fred davis a mid rounder? F outta here with that. Better be a first rounder.

slowburn

@koalabazooka said:

Did you notice the Weeden joke? Anyway, Gordon's from Houston. Practically everyone there drinks drank and/or smokes weed. Hopefully, being away from his hometown and having to worry about his salary will straighten him out. We certainly don't need him following Haden's path.

do you live in Australia, bazooka? the koala looks like a pretty cool animal although I can't think of any animal I would trade for my ROCCO. he is six months old here and should max out at 75 lb. sorry about the topic deviation TCPO.

gftChris

If Gordon didn't have the two strikes, what would he be worth? Multiple high picks, probably. A first and a third? Two firsts?

If Gordon didn't have the strikes, but was injury prone (rather than suspension prone) what would he be worth? A first? I'd say suspension prone is better than injury prone, from a football perspective. So a first rounder and a low rounder probably is fair, I guess. Or a first rounder and a proven vet at a position of need - ILB, RB, DB, OL, QB.

That being said, I'd be tempted to set up this trade to happen at the end of the season (if that's even possible).

thenew23

Guys, there is no f***ing way anybody is trading a 1st round pick for Josh Gordon. My guess is the best offer so far is a 2nd rounder, and that's probably from New England. Other offers probably include 3rd or 4th round picks and a player. Again, no f***ing way we get a 1st rounder and a starter... get that out of your head!!!