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  • but if you want bridgewater or mariota, you're gonna have to add something to the pot.

    @miktoxic said:

    but if you want bridgewater or mariota, you're gonna have to add something to the pot.

    seriously MIk- the Browns would have to lose out to leapfrog the Jags & Bucs to stand pat and take one of those two. One of them might consider trading out for a bushel basket of picks.

  • Thanks why I would rather roll with Hoyer, use our 1st rounders on other positions, and maybe draft a qb in round 4. I think Hoyer is plenty good enough to lead the O.

    I don't think any of the QBs in this class are good enough to start throwing picks at some team. Just because they are the best this year doesn't mean they are the best ever.

  • Agreed, with Peen. There are questions on every qb in this draft. That doesn't make a

    case for tossing picks to move up.

    Just makes a case for picking the qb that fits your lockeroom, fits your system,

    and can see the field and make excellent decisions.

    I really think the qb that fits now, although extremely early, is McCarron.

  • Mike Peen and Cal are correct.

    I have no idea if Mccarron is the guy but as I've said before just because you draft a guy in the top 5 doesn't mean he's a world class quarterback.

    And be realistic. If we draft a guy really really high Hoyer will not have a fair shot at the starting job.

    Those decisions are only made on the field of play, not in practice.

    WSS

  • We have to go for the rock star QB, preferably from CA or the West Coast. 😁

  • @miktoxic said:

    but if you want bridgewater or mariota, you're gonna have to add something to the pot.

    Which would be dumb.

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    Which would be dumb.

    i agree.

    @hoorta said:

    seriously MIk- the Browns would have to lose out to leapfrog the Jags & Bucs to stand pat and take one of those two. One of them might consider trading out for a bushel basket of picks.

    i'm advocating standing pat at what number and choosing something other than a QB or even moving down some spots to garnish more/future picks. not every one is picking QBs and i'm sure some good ones could be there late first round or second. i don't know about 4th rounders. that's like picking a guy who played at akron.

    @ballpeen said:

    Thanks why I would rather roll with Hoyer, use our 1st rounders on other positions, and maybe draft a qb in round 4. I think Hoyer is plenty good enough to lead the O.

    I don't think any of the QBs in this class are good enough to start throwing picks at some team. Just because they are the best this year doesn't mean they are the best ever.

    i like hoyer as well, and i'm not sold on any of these pundit's list of CAN"T misses. because there sure a hell of a lot of those guys that sure were misses.

    @westside-steve said:

    Mike Peen and Cal are correct.

    I have no idea if Mccarron is the guy but as I've said before just because you draft a guy in the top 5 doesn't mean he's a world class quarterback.

    And be realistic. If we draft a guy really really high Hoyer will not have a fair shot at the starting job.

    Those decisions are only made on the field of play, not in practice.

    WSS

    agreed.

  • We have to go for the rock star QB, preferably from CA or the West Coast. 😁

    @diehardbrownsfan said:

    We have to go for the rock star QB, preferably from CA or the West Coast. 😁

    cuz that's where the best rock comes from?

    i was told it comes from east cleveland. HA!

  • Mike Peen and Cal are correct.

    I have no idea if Mccarron is the guy but as I've said before just because you draft a guy in the top 5 doesn't mean he's a world class quarterback.

    And be realistic. If we draft a guy really really high Hoyer will not have a fair shot at the starting job.

    Those decisions are only made on the field of play, not in practice.

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    Mike Peen and Cal are correct.

    I have no idea if Mccarron is the guy but as I've said before just because you draft a guy in the top 5 doesn't mean he's a world class quarterback.

    And be realistic. If we draft a guy really really high Hoyer will not have a fair shot at the starting job.

    Those decisions are only made on the field of play, not in practice.

    WSS

    I've seen mocks with us taking McCarron with Indy's pick. I'm fine with that.

  • @westside-steve said:

    Mike Peen and Cal are correct.

    I have no idea if Mccarron is the guy but as I've said before just because you draft a guy in the top 5 doesn't mean he's a world class quarterback.

    And be realistic. If we draft a guy really really high Hoyer will not have a fair shot at the starting job.

    Those decisions are only made on the field of play, not in practice.

    WSS

    I've seen mocks with us taking McCarron with Indy's pick. I'm fine with that.

    @hoorta said:

    I've seen mocks with us taking McCarron with Indy's pick. I'm fine with that.

    I'd honestly rather mccarron than any of shep's sexy pics. The only two QBs I'm really interested in are mccarron and manziel and I'm on the fence on manziel. The others I think of as fad picks.

  • @hoorta said:

    I've seen mocks with us taking McCarron with Indy's pick. I'm fine with that.

    I'd honestly rather mccarron than any of shep's sexy pics. The only two QBs I'm really interested in are mccarron and manziel and I'm on the fence on manziel. The others I think of as fad picks.

    @the-cysko-kid said:

    I'd honestly rather mccarron than any of shep's sexy pics. The only two QBs I'm really interested in are mccarron and manziel and I'm on the fence on manziel. The others I think of as fad picks.

    Yep. I don't think any are worth a trade up.I do trust our folks to get the right guy, but I'm hoping for Hoyer to have a complete recovery. I could live very well with a Hoyer & McCarron duo. Manziel bothers me somewhat, but DAMN, that kid makes stuff happen!

    We'll see............

    Mike

  • @hoorta said:

    I've seen mocks with us taking McCarron with Indy's pick. I'm fine with that.

    I'd honestly rather mccarron than any of shep's sexy pics. The only two QBs I'm really interested in are mccarron and manziel and I'm on the fence on manziel. The others I think of as fad picks.

    @the-cysko-kid said:

    I'd honestly rather... shep's sexy pics.

    You really should have taken the time to hit the "k" key...

  • @the-cysko-kid said:

    I'd honestly rather... shep's sexy pics.

    You really should have taken the time to hit the "k" key...

    @tour2ma said:

    You really should have taken the time to hit the "k" key...

    +10000

  • Mike Peen and Cal are correct.

    I have no idea if Mccarron is the guy but as I've said before just because you draft a guy in the top 5 doesn't mean he's a world class quarterback.

    And be realistic. If we draft a guy really really high Hoyer will not have a fair shot at the starting job.

    Those decisions are only made on the field of play, not in practice.

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    Mike Peen and Cal are correct.

    I have no idea if Mccarron is the guy but as I've said before just because you draft a guy in the top 5 doesn't mean he's a world class quarterback.

    And be realistic. If we draft a guy really really high Hoyer will not have a fair shot at the starting job.

    Those decisions are only made on the field of play, not in practice.

    WSS

    Agree 1000%

  • Let's roll with Hoyer...Shore up LB and secondary with those pics..BUT...Snag a good WR if one is there by draft or FA....Let's do this Cleveland!!!!!

  • only sexy pick i'd want at QB is mariota and i wouldn't be willing to trade a bunch of picks to ensure we snag him.

    get the CB, LB WR or OL then worry about QB with the second pick.

  • Is an all A&M 1st round feasible?....Evans & Manziel?

    It's fun watching all these guys, but we'll just have to wait & see what REALLY happens.

    Mike

  • @the-cysko-kid said:

    I'd honestly rather... shep's sexy pics.

    You really should have taken the time to hit the "k" key...

    @tour2ma said:

    You really should have taken the time to hit the "k" key...

    nice
  • Both the Hoyer and Campbell insertions have clearly shown that even an average QB can elevate this team. Not sure who will pan out, but the hyped QB class of 2013 has bust written ALL over it.

    I personally don't have the time to watch all the college games, but the one's I have watched haven't impressed me that much. Most of these guys are throwing to wide open receivers. Who among them is throwing BEFORE they are open? That is the guy I want. That is what is required to succeed in the NFL, you must anticipate the break and throw to the spot. Who is doing this the best at the college level right now?

  • Did today just prove that Hoyer isn't necessarily that great, but that any decent thinking QB can have success in our system?

  • Still feel a lot better about Hoyer but Campbell can get us through this year to a decent (not playoffs) record