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ABYSSMAL 1st and 3rd Down Defense

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  • jrb12711J jrb12711

    @soju said:

    stats are for chumps, there's a lot of variables. The Browns don't pass the eye test--the truest test measurement of success there is.

    Soju: The only guy I've ever heard say stats are for chumps while arguing his case using stats. I'm not going to argue with you though because I'd be more successful arguing with my dog.

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    SojuS Soju wrote on last edited by
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    @jrb12711 said:

    Soju: The only guy I've ever heard say stats are for chumps while arguing his case using stats. I'm not going to argue with you though because I'd be more successful arguing with my dog.

    Sorry but the eye test always comes first, and if the stats back up the eye test, then it is permissible.
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      @clevelandwantsplayoffs said:

      Not sure of the stats but it seemed a lot of 3rd downs were 5 or less. Hard to stop anything less than 7

      and to take that one step further, we get beat on the same 3 step drop and throw at the sticks. Our CBs are nowhere to be found, it's like they're playing 10 yards back and playing passive prevent defense on 3rd and 5. WTF? Sick of getting beat everytime by the undeneath crap.

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      miktoxicM miktoxic wrote on last edited by
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      @soju said:

      and to take that one step further, we get beat on the same 3 step drop and throw at the sticks. Our CBs are nowhere to be found, it's like they're playing 10 yards back and playing passive prevent defense on 3rd and 5. WTF? Sick of getting beat everytime by the undeneath crap.

      ok billy. can you just pleez shut the fuck up now. we could have won the game and you'd still find something to bitch about.

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        Tim Couch Pulls OutT Tim Couch Pulls Out wrote on last edited by
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        I don't think you know what prevent defense is.

        We blitzed on a third and 7 early in the game, how did that work out for us? Oh, a Jamaal Charles 30 yard screen?

        You're a fucking idiot. If we'd have applied pressure every down you'd be bitching about that.

        Sit down, child.

        I'm awesome, and I fuck dolphins. Ghoolie 12/2/2012: I have absolutely no skills, training or pride
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          Tim Couch Pulls OutT Tim Couch Pulls Out wrote on last edited by
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          I'm sure I don't have the military clearance to read your response.

          Basement dweller.

          I'm awesome, and I fuck dolphins. Ghoolie 12/2/2012: I have absolutely no skills, training or pride
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            D BoneD D Bone wrote on last edited by
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            This forum always makes me feels better after a tough loss. The mental midgets always entertain me, even if I don't have the proper clearance to read everything.

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              SojuS Soju wrote on last edited by
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              we got decimated on screens yesterday. Absolutely obliterated. We always have gotten beat on screens and could never defend them, been going on for 15 years now.

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                gftChrisG gftChris wrote on last edited by
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                In other news, the defense limited the Chiefs to 3 points in the second half - and those were gifted to them by Campbell's fumble. Better things to come?

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                  In other news, the defense limited the Chiefs to 3 points in the second half - and those were gifted to them by Campbell's fumble. Better things to come?

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                  @gftchris said:

                  In other news, the defense limited the Chiefs to 3 points in the second half - and those were gifted to them by Campbell's fumble. Better things to come?

                  the Chiefs are an average NFL offense. they rank 16th in total yards. Besides, GREAT defenses don't allow games like the 1st half to happen.
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                  • gftChrisG gftChris

                    In other news, the defense limited the Chiefs to 3 points in the second half - and those were gifted to them by Campbell's fumble. Better things to come?

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                    @gftchris said:

                    In other news, the defense limited the Chiefs to 3 points in the second half - and those were gifted to them by Campbell's fumble. Better things to come?

                    Campbell fumbled? I don't remember that. KC got their 3 points after we had to go for it on 4th down and Bess couldn't make the catch for the first down.

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                      @gftchris said:

                      In other news, the defense limited the Chiefs to 3 points in the second half - and those were gifted to them by Campbell's fumble. Better things to come?

                      Campbell fumbled? I don't remember that. KC got their 3 points after we had to go for it on 4th down and Bess couldn't make the catch for the first down.

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                      gftChrisG gftChris wrote on last edited by
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                      @mark-o said:

                      Campbell fumbled? I don't remember that. KC got their 3 points after we had to go for it on 4th down and Bess couldn't make the catch for the first down.

                      Yep, my bad. Cambpell was stripped/fumbled, but it was negated by a penalty. Then we turned over on downs. Wrote that before I'd watched the game, I only saw the gamecenter coverage. Either way, the point stands, the 3 points they scored in the second half were nothing to do with the defence. They did absolutely everything the could to give us a shot of winning, got the three-and-out straight after the turnover.

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                        @mark-o said:

                        Campbell fumbled? I don't remember that. KC got their 3 points after we had to go for it on 4th down and Bess couldn't make the catch for the first down.

                        Yep, my bad. Cambpell was stripped/fumbled, but it was negated by a penalty. Then we turned over on downs. Wrote that before I'd watched the game, I only saw the gamecenter coverage. Either way, the point stands, the 3 points they scored in the second half were nothing to do with the defence. They did absolutely everything the could to give us a shot of winning, got the three-and-out straight after the turnover.

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                        @gftchris said:

                        Yep, my bad. Cambpell was stripped/fumbled, but it was negated by a penalty. Then we turned over on downs. Wrote that before I'd watched the game, I only saw the gamecenter coverage. Either way, the point stands, the 3 points they scored in the second half were nothing to do with the defence. They did absolutely everything the could to give us a shot of winning, got the three-and-out straight after the turnover.

                        Yes the defense was much better in the 2nd half and did give us a chance to win the game after looking rather dismal in the first half. Probably didn't help that the offense only ran 9 plays in the first quarter and a half.

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