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  • There isn't any "party" line. dems and reps disagree with mmgw.

    The trend is more conservatives disagree, I think. Inadvertently, that's just

    my theory about libs - they latch onto emotionist lib talking points as fact,

    and conservates do far more critical thinking on issues.

  • There isn't any "party" line. dems and reps disagree with mmgw.

    The trend is more conservatives disagree, I think. Inadvertently, that's just

    my theory about libs - they latch onto emotionist lib talking points as fact,

    and conservates do far more critical thinking on issues.

    @calfoxwc said:

    conservates do far more critical thinking on issues.

    lol

    and that's the one you are, right? Imagine that.

  • There isn't any "party" line. dems and reps disagree with mmgw.

    The trend is more conservatives disagree, I think. Inadvertently, that's just

    my theory about libs - they latch onto emotionist lib talking points as fact,

    and conservates do far more critical thinking on issues.

    @calfoxwc said:

    There isn't any "party" line. dems and reps disagree with mmgw.

    The trend is more conservatives disagree, I think. Inadvertently, that's just

    my theory about libs - they latch onto emotionist lib talking points as fact,

    and conservates do far more critical thinking on issues.

    I just think it is funny you ONLY think liberals do the whole "emotions" thing. Yet in literally every thread you make it is from TheBlaze, or FoxNews, or Breitbart or whatever and the article is exactly what you want. You are reading about what you feel to give yourself confirmation you're right. Searching out articles with lines like "The Obama admistration is terrible" or "liberals blh blah blah bad thing" are emotional too. Then, you turn around in your thread and make it even more sensational, with "big serious trouble" this and "dirty liberals" that.

    Apparently critical thinking and understanding hypocrisy/irony aren't one in the same.

    Plus, on the critical thinking thing, doesn't the average liberal have a higher IQ than the average conservative? Idk, I may be wrong about that, and I don't really affiliate with either, but I thought that's how the data shook out.

    Edit: I googled it, found some stuff on it. Not gonna post it though, not worth going down that wormhole. To just say that all conservatives do far more critical thinking though is ridiculous. If anything there is less critical thinking in keeping things the same...

    But either way, your blanket statements about how bad every liberal is and how they cause everything wrong in the country are stupid, and I am pretty sure they require very little critical thinking.

  • @calfoxwc said:

    Oh. I got that wrong, then.

    But my point was that all the facts from the conservative point of view are completely ignored, or bashed.

    Libs tend to avoid discussion of facts that contradict their emotionalist idealogical refrains.

    It's problematic that you call it "The conservative point of view" because that reveals that you will not deviate from the party line for any reason nor will you expect your fellows to deviate from it. I think conservatives and liberals ought to have minds of their own.

    @the-cysko-kid said:

    It's problematic that you call it "The conservative point of view" because that reveals that you will not deviate from the party line for any reason nor will you expect your fellows to deviate from it. I think conservatives and liberals ought to have minds of their own.

    @mld-woody said:

    I agree

    I don't know why, but this made me laugh.

  • now THATS irony! 😉

  • We need to remember, also, that regardless of whether or not global warming/climate change is a real and dangerous thing or not, the earth is running out of fossil fuels to burn, so we need to look at ways to be more efficient in the energy we produce, the energy we use, and also try to use as many renewables as we can. Of course there's a limit on that - sure, we could just cover the sahara with solar panels and power the world, but we need to try to not infringe on nature too much! Things like covering every roof with solar panels, wind farms where possible etc.

  • Nuclear power.

  • Nuclear power.

    @diehardbrownsfan said:

    Nuclear power.

    Is a very viable option. I agree

  • Nuclear power.

    @diehardbrownsfan said:

    Nuclear power.

    @the-cysko-kid said:

    Is a very viable option. I agree

    Seconded. I'm not sure where we are on the 'clean-ness' of it all though - there's still a large amount of waste to dispose of that afaik hasn't been accounted for yet.

  • I'm pretty sure all that stuff is going to happen. It seems everyone wants to believe history began 10 years ago. It seems to me that over just the last few hundred years there have been a complete 360 turn arounds. That's quite a bit considering how long the planet has been here. What like six thousand years or something? 🙂

    But in a couple hundred years everything will be completely different than it is today. One thing we could do today is switch every light fixture in every stadium factory School Street business office home etc to.led.

    that would take probably 90 percent of the burden of of the coal and nuclear and wind and whatever energy producing plants that exist.

    But right now, today, fossil fuel is probably the most efficient and cost effective method available. That will change. Right now, at least in my opinion, global warming and the Doom that it might bring is just an excuse for political posturing and more taxation.

    regardless of how it's caused and how much and by whom.

    WSS

  • now THATS irony! 😉

    @fairhooker11 said:

    now THATS irony! 😉

    I don't see it...

    So, even though I'm the one with a dissenting opinion to the majority opinion on this board most of the time, I'm the one that cant think for himself?

    I'm not the one that posts articles around "Mexicans are bad", or from the same 3 conservative sites/blogs every time.... but I'm totally the one that can't think for themselves, lol . OK.

  • Woody, you don't back up what you "think". That means you emotionally take the lib side of things,

    without ever having figured out what all the information on an issue really means.

    And nobody is "posting articles around "mexicans are bad"...blah blah blah.

    Posting articles about BAD mexicans, is saying we have a serious illegal immigration problem.

    I know, you don't get it. BTW, you lol at every consonant and vowel in anybody's post you don't like.

    Get a grip.

  • Woody, you don't back up what you "think". That means you emotionally take the lib side of things,

    without ever having figured out what all the information on an issue really means.

    And nobody is "posting articles around "mexicans are bad"...blah blah blah.

    Posting articles about BAD mexicans, is saying we have a serious illegal immigration problem.

    I know, you don't get it. BTW, you lol at every consonant and vowel in anybody's post you don't like.

    Get a grip.

    @calfoxwc said:

    Woody, you don't back up what you "think". That means you emotionally take the lib side of things,

    without ever having figured out what all the information on an issue really means.

    And nobody is "posting articles around "mexicans are bad"...blah blah blah.

    Posting articles about BAD mexicans, is saying we have a serious illegal immigration problem.

    I know, you don't get it. BTW, you lol at every consonant and vowel in anybody's post you don't like.

    Get a grip.

    You are such a hypocritical idiot... my god. I don't even care if I'll get shit for my normal insulting of you.

    My god... it is like you post these things you dislike about people you disagree with, but completely miss those characteristics in yourself. It is such a selective view of things it is astounding.

    You act like reading an article on the Blaze, which you already know you'll agree with, is "figuring out what all the information on an issue really means".......... jesus christ

    In your mind posting an editorial from a conservative blog = backing up what you think but posting scientific articles from real sources = emotional liberal nonsense

    You are fucking unbelievable... Part of me still thinks you are just some character, just some guy trolling us at his keyboard.

  • No, woodypeckerhead ass, I have posted a lot of things. Including a report, directly referring to way over

    a hundred scientists who strongly disagree with mmgw as fact.

    Simply put, you asscrevice woodypeckerhead, you all claim mmgw is FACT. Therefore, credible

    evidence to the contrary defeats that.

    You can diss the site it comes from, and diss the author reporting, and referring to the facts on the flip side,

    and you can whine and bitch and cry and wet yourself over it, but you don't even support your side of things

    much at all.

    You want me to post anti mmgw stuff from msnbc or the Communist News Network? I doubt they will print

    anything - it doesn't fit their narrative.

    So, until you can logically criticize the CONTENT OF THE INFORMATION POSTED, you are a lightweight,

    a dipsheet, a slime on the belly of a snail on the bottom of the ocean, and you reek of ignorance.

    Grow the freakin up.

  • @calfoxwc said:

    As usual, you don't know what the hell you are talking about, and you resort to personal attacks instead of explaining WHY you think what you think.

    For like the millionth time, no one said there aren't scientists that you can find that think man made climate change is fake. You can find "scientists" that think the Earth is 6,000 years old.

    You don't throw something out completely because we aren't 100% sure, only 90%. That's basically the same logic creationists use. The data is there. The overwhelming majority of qualified scientists have spoken their minds. To ignore climate change completely be cause there are some dissenters is Retarded.

    And for your sources, I'm just talking about something other than what amounts to a right wing blog.

  • Ah. You think "creationism" has to do with the subject of the thread? Global warming?

    A fact doesn't have hundreds, and hundreds ? of scientists who reject mmgw.

    Therefore, it's a theory. If a N end of a magnet is only attracted to the S end of another

    magnet only 85 percent of the time...

    would you say it always happens?

    Of course you would, if that was the lib narrative of the day, handed down to you by heck.

  • Ah. You think "creationism" has to do with the subject of the thread? Global warming?

    A fact doesn't have hundreds, and hundreds ? of scientists who reject mmgw.

    Therefore, it's a theory. If a N end of a magnet is only attracted to the S end of another

    magnet only 85 percent of the time...

    would you say it always happens?

    Of course you would, if that was the lib narrative of the day, handed down to you by heck.

    @calfoxwc said:

    Ah. You think "creationism" has to do with the subject of the thread? Global warming?

    A fact doesn't have hundreds, and hundreds ? of scientists who reject mmgw.

    Therefore, it's a theory. If a N end of a magnet is only attracted to the S end of another

    magnet only 85 percent of the time...

    would you say it always happens?

    Of course you would, if that was the lib narrative of the day, handed down to you by heck.

    The rational behind it is the same as what you are doing now, try to keep up.

    Or continue with the insults, which by your own words mean you have nothing productive to say.

  • Ah. You think "creationism" has to do with the subject of the thread? Global warming?

    A fact doesn't have hundreds, and hundreds ? of scientists who reject mmgw.

    Therefore, it's a theory. If a N end of a magnet is only attracted to the S end of another

    magnet only 85 percent of the time...

    would you say it always happens?

    Of course you would, if that was the lib narrative of the day, handed down to you by heck.

    @calfoxwc said:

    Ah. You think "creationism" has to do with the subject of the thread? Global warming?

    No, he's using another example of where something is accepted as common fact but there are people who claim to have proof that it is not, and suggesting that the same principal is applying here.

    A fact doesn't have hundreds, and hundreds ? of scientists who reject mmgw.

    Hundreds of scientists - I don't doubt it. Thousands, probably. Do you know how many scientists are in the world? Millions. Tens of millions, maybe. How small a fraction of them don't accept some form of human-driven climate change as 'fact', or at the very least something worth investigating?

    Therefore, it's a theory.

    you need to revisit your dictionary. A theory is something that has been unequivocally proven. Something that is suspected to be true but not yet proven is called conjecture.

    If a N end of a magnet is only attracted to the S end of another magnet only 85 percent of the time...would you say it always happens?

    OK, let's run with the meaningless metaphor. You'd say that if something happens 85% of the time, there's a high probability that it will happen. If 85% of scientists believe in global warming as fact, chances are it's probably fact. These are the dark ages, scientists don't just blithely accept what looks like the truth, for any conjecture to get traction it needs to be explained by theory and backed up by evidence. There is certainly a possibility that the 15% are right, but it's a relatively small possibility, though equally worth investigating.

    Of course you would, if that was the lib narrative of the day, handed down to you by heck.

    And where's your conservative narrative of the day handed down from?

    Please, cal, I'm not here trying to stick up for Woody, but if you're going to attack him personally, do it right. And no, despite this and the other comment I just made, I'm not trying to attack you. You've always been civil with me, even when we disagree (frequently); but the constant abuse of Woody - and anyone who disagrees with you - and the scaremongering about Obama, liberals and anything that is even remotely out of line with your political/religious beliefs is really beginning to grate.