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  • @hoorta said:

    I doubt we're going to take a guard in the first round. Tend to agree with Shep- one of the first rounders will probably be a qb.

    You're probably right, but I just couldn't see anyone that would represent value at that spot and was at a position of any kind of need. Even the guy I picked was a reach. Everyone else available was either OT or OLB. Or would you take Brett Hundley, if he were to fall that far? Marquis Lee? Those were the two I was considering.

    @gftchris said:

    You're probably right, but I just couldn't see anyone that would represent value at that spot and was at a position of any kind of need. Even the guy I picked was a reach. Everyone else available was either OT or OLB. Or would you take Brett Hundley, if he were to fall that far? Marquis Lee? Those were the two I was considering.

    🙂 Chris, I'm not that much of a Draftnick. Good job, but let's let the rest of this season play out. Plenty of time in the off season to speculate.

  • @gftchris said:

    You're probably right, but I just couldn't see anyone that would represent value at that spot and was at a position of any kind of need. Even the guy I picked was a reach. Everyone else available was either OT or OLB. Or would you take Brett Hundley, if he were to fall that far? Marquis Lee? Those were the two I was considering.

    🙂 Chris, I'm not that much of a Draftnick. Good job, but let's let the rest of this season play out. Plenty of time in the off season to speculate.

    @hoorta said:

    🙂 Chris, I'm not that much of a Draftnick. Good job, but let's let the rest of this season play out. Plenty of time in the off season to speculate.

    As I say, I was just a bit bored and we're on a bye week. Plus a little excitement for Christmas (in itself probably too early) spilled over to the draft 😛

  • Solid job. There is nothing wrong in Pittsburgh outside of porous offensive line play and zero pressure from the defensive line. The changing of the guard at a few positions rights the ship so to sit back and say "This team sucks" is incredibly short sighted. I really hope the majority of this board keeps singing that song and the Steelers get to draft inside the top 10. We'll then all see just how fast the ship gets spun around. It's not a team full of holes, it's a team in need of a few pieces and a little continuity. Dick Lebeau may have also punched his retirement card.

    @vagitron said:

    Solid job. There is nothing wrong in Pittsburgh outside of porous offensive line play and zero pressure from the defensive line.

    That is like saying that "there is nothing wrong with this team except the offense and the defense"

    The changing of the guard at a few positions rights the ship so to sit back and say "This team sucks" is incredibly short sighted.

    Short sighted? It is accurate. You have a problem with accuracy? For now, they suck. Maybe at some time in the future they will be better. You can say that about 31 other teams that are not the defending champions.

    I really hope the majority of this board keeps singing that song and the Steelers get to draft inside the top 10. We'll then all see just how fast the ship gets spun around.

    What makes you think that drafting inside the Top 10 will make that big of a difference in one year? How many times have the Browns/Bengals drafted in the Top 10 and it not make a difference? And given the Steelers recent track record of not really making all that great of picks in the first round it would be at best 50/50 that you would get a real player there.

    It's not a team full of holes, it's a team in need of a few pieces and a little continuity.

    Yea, the only holes it has are the offensive line, defensive line, defensive backfield and offensive skill positions. In other words, everywhere but the LB position.

    Dick Lebeau may have also punched his retirement card.

    And that will be your biggest loss of all.

  • Honestly, we get to see if the footballing gods really hate Cleveland in this offseason - in Pittsburgh.

    Step 1 - Mike Tomlin gets canned

    Step 2 - Ray Horton hired as HC

    Step 3 - draft Clowney

    Step 4 - Clowney and Jones tee off on the Browns, after Joe Thomas goes down for the season and Alex Mack isn't re-signed.

  • Solid job. There is nothing wrong in Pittsburgh outside of porous offensive line play and zero pressure from the defensive line. The changing of the guard at a few positions rights the ship so to sit back and say "This team sucks" is incredibly short sighted. I really hope the majority of this board keeps singing that song and the Steelers get to draft inside the top 10. We'll then all see just how fast the ship gets spun around. It's not a team full of holes, it's a team in need of a few pieces and a little continuity. Dick Lebeau may have also punched his retirement card.

    @vagitron said:

    There is nothing wrong in Pittsburgh outside of porous offensive line play and zero pressure from the defensive line.

    That's exactly what i told you was wrong with your team last year and this preseason when you were predicting playoff runs.

    The changing of the guard at a few positions rights the ship so to sit back and say "This team sucks" is incredibly short sighted.

    Either it does suck or it doesn't suck. Being 2-6 and just giving up 55 points ... well, that goes under "does suck".

    I really hope ... the Steelers get to draft inside the top 10.

    There's that Pittsburgh Spirit! Not "I hope we go 10-6 and shove it in your faces" or "I hope we sweep your ass" or "Were still not out of this thing if you look at the standings" ... no, "it's I hope we get a Top Ten draft pick"

    Because that'll fill one of your six or seven gaping holes.

    Good luck with all that ...

    Zombo

  • Again... it's a damn good mock. But I highly recommend you start including Carr because he will go in the first round. He's got everything -- size, arm, wheels, creativity, moxie, and now maturity. He really could end up in or around the top 10. I think Hundley should stay in school but Teddy, Marcus, Johnny, and Carr will all go round one. Mettenberger is fringe.

    Love, love, love that huge TE from Texas Tech. If we could get Carr and Chace Whatever without making any trades, we'd have so much flexibility to move up and also get a legit WR and another lineman. Plus, we're almost forced to sign a pretty big crop of serious free agents.

  • Again... it's a damn good mock. But I highly recommend you start including Carr because he will go in the first round. He's got everything -- size, arm, wheels, creativity, moxie, and now maturity. He really could end up in or around the top 10. I think Hundley should stay in school but Teddy, Marcus, Johnny, and Carr will all go round one. Mettenberger is fringe.

    Love, love, love that huge TE from Texas Tech. If we could get Carr and Chace Whatever without making any trades, we'd have so much flexibility to move up and also get a legit WR and another lineman. Plus, we're almost forced to sign a pretty big crop of serious free agents.

    @shep said:

    Again... it's a damn good mock. But I highly recommend you start including Carr because he will go in the first round. He's got everything -- size, arm, wheels, creativity, moxie, and now maturity. He really could end up in or around the top 10. I think Hundley should stay in school but Teddy, Marcus, Johnny, and Carr will all go round one. Mettenberger is fringe.

    Love, love, love that huge TE from Texas Tech. If we could get Carr and Chace Whatever without making any trades, we'd have so much flexibility to move up and also get a legit WR and another lineman. Plus, we're almost forced to sign a pretty big crop of serious free agents.

    Another thing to consider is that Ward and Mack are free agents of some form at the end of the season. If they wanted, the FO could sing them to big extensions (which they should) and really front load them, to take up a lot of cap space and not force us to overspend in FA. Alternatively, they could let one or both go, which would result in another hole to fill. I doubt they let Ward walk, but maybe Mack? I doubt that too, but I could see it happening.

  • Again... it's a damn good mock. But I highly recommend you start including Carr because he will go in the first round. He's got everything -- size, arm, wheels, creativity, moxie, and now maturity. He really could end up in or around the top 10. I think Hundley should stay in school but Teddy, Marcus, Johnny, and Carr will all go round one. Mettenberger is fringe.

    Love, love, love that huge TE from Texas Tech. If we could get Carr and Chace Whatever without making any trades, we'd have so much flexibility to move up and also get a legit WR and another lineman. Plus, we're almost forced to sign a pretty big crop of serious free agents.

    @shep said:

    Again... it's a damn good mock. But I highly recommend you start including Carr because he will go in the first round. He's got everything -- size, arm, wheels, creativity, moxie, and now maturity. He really could end up in or around the top 10. I think Hundley should stay in school but Teddy, Marcus, Johnny, and Carr will all go round one. Mettenberger is fringe.

    Love, love, love that huge TE from Texas Tech. If we could get Carr and Chace Whatever without making any trades, we'd have so much flexibility to move up and also get a legit WR and another lineman. Plus, we're almost forced to sign a pretty big crop of serious free agents.

    Yep, I like it. And his name is Jace Amaro. 6'6 250# former bball player who is gonna be a beast in the NFL, but will be in the 2015 NFL draft because he's already announced that he'd be returning his senior year. Othwr TE's I like are Colt Lyerla, who left Oregon to prepare for the draft and has since been popped for drugs. And, Austin S. Jenkins from Washington even though he's having a down year in the stats department.
  • @vagitron said:

    Solid job. There is nothing wrong in Pittsburgh outside of porous offensive line play and zero pressure from the defensive line. The changing of the guard at a few positions rights the ship so to sit back and say "This team sucks" is incredibly short sighted. I really hope the majority of this board keeps singing that song and the Steelers get to draft inside the top 10. We'll then all see just how fast the ship gets spun around. It's not a team full of holes, it's a team in need of a few pieces and a little continuity. Dick Lebeau may have also punched his retirement card.

    Yup, that's all on LeBeau you got torched for 600 yards and 55 points by the Patsies. "Swiss Cheese" Curtain. Thoroughly enjoyed the beat-down.

    Oh you have some solid players alright- but a bunch of your "superstars" are getting a tad long in the tooth. Like Poly-moo-moo. Um, Ben is 31 and has taken a ton of sacks- how long you expecting him to hold up? Ike Taylor has a lot of miles on him at CB. Kiessel is on the high side of 30. Getting Pouncey back will help the O-line- that's assuming Ben doesn't get killed first. If you think you can fill all those holes in one draft lotsa luck. Oh, I forgot- the Steelers never mess up on draft picks. Really- I can't get over the cockiness of Steeler fans- yeah, we might suck this year- but one draft and we're back to the Super Bowl. Hate to tell you- it ain't happening.

    And us Browns fans profoundly thank you for donating that high 2014 third round pick we got from you last year. Hehe reeked of a Holmgren panic move- your FO saw the wheels coming off (unlike a lot of Steeler fans) and made a move they're gonna regret.

    @hoorta said:

    Yup, that's all on LeBeau you got torched for 600 yards and 55 points by the Patsies. "Swiss Cheese" Curtain. Thoroughly enjoyed the beat-down.

    Oh you have some solid players alright- but a bunch of your "superstars" are getting a tad long in the tooth. Like Poly-moo-moo. Um, Ben is 31 and has taken a ton of sacks- how long you expecting him to hold up? Ike Taylor has a lot of miles on him at CB. Kiessel is on the high side of 30. Getting Pouncey back will help the O-line- that's assuming Ben doesn't get killed first. If you think you can fill all those holes in one draft lotsa luck. Oh, I forgot- the Steelers never mess up on draft picks. Really- I can't get over the cockiness of Steeler fans- yeah, we might suck this year- but one draft and we're back to the Super Bowl. Hate to tell you- it ain't happening.

    And us Browns fans profoundly thank you for donating that high 2014 third round pick we got from you last year. Hehe reeked of a Holmgren panic move- your FO saw the wheels coming off (unlike a lot of Steeler fans) and made a move they're gonna regret.

    I never said never in regards to the draft. They've had some bad ones recently. The entire 2008 draft for example.

  • No way Glennon's Bucs end up worse than Henne's Jags.

    STL's O-line is pretty bad and they're loaded w/ skill players, so I think they'll pick Erving.

    Pryor got sacked 10 times in a game?!

    No way PHI ditches Foles now.

    Boyd isn't going to be the last pick of the 1st!

  • First round QB totally depends on who's available. He likely won't start regardless.

  • No way Glennon's Bucs end up worse than Henne's Jags.

    STL's O-line is pretty bad and they're loaded w/ skill players, so I think they'll pick Erving.

    Pryor got sacked 10 times in a game?!

    No way PHI ditches Foles now.

    Boyd isn't going to be the last pick of the 1st!

    @koalabazooka said:

    No way Glennon's Bucs end up worse than Henne's Jags.

    Currently they are by virtue of opponents' win percentage.

    STL's O-line is pretty bad and they're loaded w/ skill players, so I think they'll pick Erving.

    Loaded with skill players? Who?

    Pryor got sacked 10 times in a game?!

    Yeah, against KC. Just checked, they got it as 9, I'm sure I heard 10 somewhere. Either way...

    No way PHI ditches Foles now.

    Because he beat up on Oakland? I don't think he's the mobile QB Chip Kelly wants.

    Boyd isn't going to be the last pick of the 1st!

    Then where is he going? KC was the only team down there that could use someone to take over at QB in a couple of years. It made sense.

  • @koalabazooka said:

    No way Glennon's Bucs end up worse than Henne's Jags.

    Currently they are by virtue of opponents' win percentage.

    STL's O-line is pretty bad and they're loaded w/ skill players, so I think they'll pick Erving.

    Loaded with skill players? Who?

    Pryor got sacked 10 times in a game?!

    Yeah, against KC. Just checked, they got it as 9, I'm sure I heard 10 somewhere. Either way...

    No way PHI ditches Foles now.

    Because he beat up on Oakland? I don't think he's the mobile QB Chip Kelly wants.

    Boyd isn't going to be the last pick of the 1st!

    Then where is he going? KC was the only team down there that could use someone to take over at QB in a couple of years. It made sense.

    @gftchris said:

    @koalabazooka said:

    No way Glennon's Bucs end up worse than Henne's Jags.

    Currently they are by virtue of opponents' win percentage.

    STL's O-line is pretty bad and they're loaded w/ skill players, so I think they'll pick Erving.

    Loaded with skill players? Who?

    Pryor got sacked 10 times in a game?!

    Yeah, against KC. Just checked, they got it as 9, I'm sure I heard 10 somewhere. Either way...

    No way PHI ditches Foles now.

    Because he beat up on Oakland? I don't think he's the mobile QB Chip Kelly wants.

    Boyd isn't going to be the last pick of the 1st!

    Then where is he going? KC was the only team down there that could use someone to take over at QB in a couple of years. It made sense.

    St. Louis has Tavon Austin, Jared Cooke, Zac Stacey, Stedman Bailey etc. I do still think they'll draft a WR.

  • Austin has done so little this season he's approaching bust territory. Cook is a TE with 3 TDs so far this season - not exactly stellar, but fine. Stacy a RB who looks interesting. All this still tells me that they need a stud WR.

  • No way Glennon's Bucs end up worse than Henne's Jags.

    STL's O-line is pretty bad and they're loaded w/ skill players, so I think they'll pick Erving.

    Pryor got sacked 10 times in a game?!

    No way PHI ditches Foles now.

    Boyd isn't going to be the last pick of the 1st!

    @koalabazooka said:

    No way Glennon's Bucs end up worse than Henne's Jags.

    STL's O-line is pretty bad and they're loaded w/ skill players, so I think they'll pick Erving.

    Pryor got sacked 10 times in a game?!

    No way PHI ditches Foles now.

    Boyd isn't going to be the last pick of the 1st!

    STL is loaded with skill players? Zac Stacy, Tavon Austin, Chris Givens, and Brian Quick? They're goin running back, reciever, or QB in yhe first....my bets on QB.
  • Didn't see the above posts before replying : /

  • @koalabazooka said:

    No way Glennon's Bucs end up worse than Henne's Jags.

    Currently they are by virtue of opponents' win percentage.

    STL's O-line is pretty bad and they're loaded w/ skill players, so I think they'll pick Erving.

    Loaded with skill players? Who?

    Pryor got sacked 10 times in a game?!

    Yeah, against KC. Just checked, they got it as 9, I'm sure I heard 10 somewhere. Either way...

    No way PHI ditches Foles now.

    Because he beat up on Oakland? I don't think he's the mobile QB Chip Kelly wants.

    Boyd isn't going to be the last pick of the 1st!

    Then where is he going? KC was the only team down there that could use someone to take over at QB in a couple of years. It made sense.

    @gftchris said:

    @koalabazooka said:

    No way Glennon's Bucs end up worse than Henne's Jags.

    Currently they are by virtue of opponents' win percentage.

    STL's O-line is pretty bad and they're loaded w/ skill players, so I think they'll pick Erving.

    Loaded with skill players? Who?

    No way PHI ditches Foles now.

    Because he beat up on Oakland? I don't think he's the mobile QB Chip Kelly wants.

    Boyd isn't going to be the last pick of the 1st!

    Then where is he going? KC was the only team down there that could use someone to take over at QB in a couple of years. It made sense.

    I"m pretty sure TB will end up w/ more wins than JAC.

    Austin, Pettis, Givens, Stacy, Richardson, Bradford...

    Foles has a lot of promise. If not for PHI's dogged obsession w/ Vick, he would've been the starter this season.

    AZ and STL will likely draft QBs.

  • @gftchris said:

    @koalabazooka said:

    No way Glennon's Bucs end up worse than Henne's Jags.

    Currently they are by virtue of opponents' win percentage.

    STL's O-line is pretty bad and they're loaded w/ skill players, so I think they'll pick Erving.

    Loaded with skill players? Who?

    Pryor got sacked 10 times in a game?!

    Yeah, against KC. Just checked, they got it as 9, I'm sure I heard 10 somewhere. Either way...

    No way PHI ditches Foles now.

    Because he beat up on Oakland? I don't think he's the mobile QB Chip Kelly wants.

    Boyd isn't going to be the last pick of the 1st!

    Then where is he going? KC was the only team down there that could use someone to take over at QB in a couple of years. It made sense.

    St. Louis has Tavon Austin, Jared Cooke, Zac Stacey, Stedman Bailey etc. I do still think they'll draft a WR.

    @vagitron said:

    St. Louis has Tavon Austin, Jared Cooke, Zac Stacey, Stedman Bailey etc. I do still think they'll draft a WR.

    They just took two last year. That cannot be that team's priority. Unless an absolute bona fide can't miss superstar falls into their lap I don't see why they would choose a WR.....at least not early on (6th, 7th round...maybe)

  • It's hard for St. Louis to give up on Bradford for a couple reasons, including his MASSIVE deal, right before the new agreement. But he also started playing very good football right before he was hurt. If they bring in competition, it won't be at the top of the draft... I don't think. I could see a third round guy like Fales, something like that.

    Same for Oakland. They're not drafting one high and benching Pryor. They could bring in competition. But not at the top.

    I would NOT assume TB is going to shitcan Mike Glennon. He's played some pretty good football, certainly as good as Geno Smith who isn't getting benched either.

    Jacksonville and Minnesota feel like locks to me, almost certainly ahead of the Browns. Houston loves Case Keenum. I think the Browns could trade up to get the third QB in the draft at 10 or something (Carr or Johnny Cash).

    And I think Chip's ego is too big to adapt an offense to Foles. I think he'd rather have the extra first round pick, then he'll try to draft one of his guys (Mariota, Manziel, Boyd).