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  • It won't be Manziel, either. Calm your tits.

    You know which QB the Browns are drafting? Who is it?

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    It won't be Manziel, either. Calm your tits.

  • You know which QB the Browns are drafting? Who is it?

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    It won't be Manziel, either. Calm your tits.

    @shep said:

    You know which QB the Browns are drafting? Who is it?

    No, I don't know. But I do know that it won't be Manziel. Doesn't fit the drafting profile of anyone in our FO or coaching staff. I think you know that, too.

    But it is fun to watch you blow your load over each flavor of the week QB.

    Who's it going to be next week that the Browns are "falling in love with"? Mettenberger? McCarron? Hundley?

    I can at least rest assured that you won't be pimping Blake Bortles, because Mel Kiper hasn't said his name enough for you to know who he is.

    It's midseason. There's a lot of football left to play, both college and NFL. There are an infinite number of things that can and will happen between now and draft day to influence our decisions.

    But Manziel won't be in Brown and Orange next season, and that's something you can take to the bank. It just doesn't make sense.

    Shep, you're a smart guy and I really value your posts. It's great to see someone who's passionate and knowledgeable about their posting subject, that's rare to find online. I may give you shit, but it's all in good fun. I think (or at least, hope) that you know I mean nothing by it. We all want to see the Browns succeed, and we all have different visions of how that will be. Sometimes those visions clash with others', it doesn't mean we don't all envision the same outcome. I hope to disagree with many more of your posts for many more years.

    Mik, you're a different story you old bag o'shit.

  • @shep said:

    You know which QB the Browns are drafting? Who is it?

    No, I don't know. But I do know that it won't be Manziel. Doesn't fit the drafting profile of anyone in our FO or coaching staff. I think you know that, too.

    But it is fun to watch you blow your load over each flavor of the week QB.

    Who's it going to be next week that the Browns are "falling in love with"? Mettenberger? McCarron? Hundley?

    I can at least rest assured that you won't be pimping Blake Bortles, because Mel Kiper hasn't said his name enough for you to know who he is.

    It's midseason. There's a lot of football left to play, both college and NFL. There are an infinite number of things that can and will happen between now and draft day to influence our decisions.

    But Manziel won't be in Brown and Orange next season, and that's something you can take to the bank. It just doesn't make sense.

    Shep, you're a smart guy and I really value your posts. It's great to see someone who's passionate and knowledgeable about their posting subject, that's rare to find online. I may give you shit, but it's all in good fun. I think (or at least, hope) that you know I mean nothing by it. We all want to see the Browns succeed, and we all have different visions of how that will be. Sometimes those visions clash with others', it doesn't mean we don't all envision the same outcome. I hope to disagree with many more of your posts for many more years.

    Mik, you're a different story you old bag o'shit.

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    Mik, you're a different story you old bag o'shit.

    you know when we meet at one of these tailgates the shit is going off the charts.

    that's if you can hang with this FOM (fat old man).

    doubt it.

  • Assuming the Browns draft a long-term guy in round one, I think neither Campbell nor Hoyer would accept being the guy who isn't Now OR The Future, you know what I'm saying? If you aren't starting the opener and you aren't (say) Manziel, you're really just wasting a year of your career after showing you can play.

    I think the Browns would basically have TWO guys who should be starting and then mentoring when they only need one. Let someone else have the other one to mentor THEIR rookie... and take one of their higher picks for the privilege!

    Well, after last nite who ya got? McCarron is still standing pretty tall in this household.

    @shep said:

    Assuming the Browns draft a long-term guy in round one, I think neither Campbell nor Hoyer would accept being the guy who isn't Now OR The Future, you know what I'm saying? If you aren't starting the opener and you aren't (say) Manziel, you're really just wasting a year of your career after showing you can play.

    I think the Browns would basically have TWO guys who should be starting and then mentoring when they only need one. Let someone else have the other one to mentor THEIR rookie... and take one of their higher picks for the privilege!

    Yes, I know what you're saying... just don't agree. I have yet to see one college QB in this year's likely crop that is ready to start his NFL season one, game one.

    What behavior or statement has indicated either Hoyer or Campbell would not accept a backup role?

    What's wrong with sitting a rookie QB for a year? Two years? Cheaper now than it's been in ages.

    How many rookie QBs have failed under fire that would have benefited from sitting for a while?

    What team in their right mind would trade a "higher pick" for either Campbell or Hoyer? Especially if we do what you are saying and draft a QB early and high? (Let alone package picks to trade up.)

    XxDaBuckeyexX said:

    He has the best of everything around him and yet still doesnt excell. Gotta be very cautious when evaluating QB's on dominate teams.

    Yeah... the bum's passer rating is only 169.1... lol... 🙂

    Seriously, I understand your caution, but the kid has been so good for so long. And he is the perfect QB for a "dominant team" in that he first does no harm to that dominance.

    I think he is just what we need. And he will come cheap compared to the other "names" in this draft.

    Yr Cmpl Att % Yds YPA TD Int

    2011 219 328 68.8 2634 8.0 16 5

    2012 211 314 67.2 2933 9.3 30 3

    2013 159 229 69.4 2041 8.9 19 3

  • Take your pick.

    If you want consistency and leadership but a dip in measurables, you want McCarron and/or Carr

    If you want athleticism and potential but a dip in size and strength, you want Hundley and/or Manziel

    If you want highest ceiling, highest risk, you want Bridgewater and/or Mariota

    If you want a developmental guy, you want Mettenberger and/or Boyd

    I'm in the top category right now... long way to go...

  • @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    Mik, you're a different story you old bag o'shit.

    you know when we meet at one of these tailgates the shit is going off the charts.

    that's if you can hang with this FOM (fat old man).

    doubt it.

    @miktoxic said:

    you know when we meet at one of these tailgates the shit is going off the charts.

    that's if you can hang with this FOM (fat old man).

    doubt it.

    Can't wait. It's going to be one for the ages.

  • McCarron is so limited and TRULY a "game manager." I think he'll make somebody a nice backup for a long time. Feels a little too Trent Edwards for me. I see him in round 3 with no upside.

    Carr and Manziel continued their rises yesterday and Hundley is doing some nice damage control. My gut says one of those three. And thanks, Couch, I like your posts, too.

    BUT... I think the Browns do dig Manziel. He's 20. He's proven he can pass from the pocket. He's faster and taller than Wilson. He'd get a year to get physically stronger and watch Hoyer. Don't be too shocked.

    Based on not getting near Bridgewater or Mariota, I'm paying the most attention to those three guys.

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    Dude might be a very very good QB but just looking at this picture makes me want to punch him. He looks and acts like a punk...please keep him out of Cleveland.

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    Dude might be a very very good QB but just looking at this picture makes me want to punch him. He looks and acts like a punk...please keep him out of Cleveland.

    @mark-o said:

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    Dude might be a very very good QB but just looking at this picture makes me want to punch him. He looks and acts like a punk...please keep him out of Cleveland.

    He's got Steeler written all over him. They trade Ben to Arizona and Manziel picks up on the douchebaggery in Pittsburgh.

    Z

  • While we're on the QB subject... Cutler is a FA this year. I don't know how old he is and i'm too lazy to look it up but is there any interest there? Cutler, Campbell, Hoyer next year and use the draft for everything else we need.

  • Pass on Cutler. He may have the skill-set of a good QB but he lacks a true leadership personality.

  • Hard to say he lacks a leadership personality when he was out on the field playing ridiculously hurt yesterday doing everything he could to help his team win.

  • @mark-o said:

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    Dude might be a very very good QB but just looking at this picture makes me want to punch him. He looks and acts like a punk...please keep him out of Cleveland.

    He's got Steeler written all over him. They trade Ben to Arizona and Manziel picks up on the douchebaggery in Pittsburgh.

    Z

    Zombo said:

    He's got Steeler written all over him. They trade Ben to Arizona and Manziel picks up on the douchebaggery in Pittsburgh.

    Z

    I'm on board with that!

    Patchwork O-line he don't stand a chance.

    I can't put my finger on who Manziel looks like but he kinda has that same look as the guy on the cover of MAD magazine minus the red hair of coarse.

    But the draft went from NFL starters 3 rounds deep from top ta bottom to a couple of maybe's. I don't see much of Russell Wilson when trying to compare him too Menziel, I see more of a Doug Flutie comparison.

  • I like Cutlers Moxie but not the pricetag and the fact he's been hurt a lot as of late

  • Cutler isn't going anywhere. The Bears are going to resign him.

  • Zombo said:

    He's got Steeler written all over him. They trade Ben to Arizona and Manziel picks up on the douchebaggery in Pittsburgh.

    Z

    I'm on board with that!

    Patchwork O-line he don't stand a chance.

    I can't put my finger on who Manziel looks like but he kinda has that same look as the guy on the cover of MAD magazine minus the red hair of coarse.

    But the draft went from NFL starters 3 rounds deep from top ta bottom to a couple of maybe's. I don't see much of Russell Wilson when trying to compare him too Menziel, I see more of a Doug Flutie comparison.

    @erie-dawg said:

    I'm on board with that!

    Patchwork O-line he don't stand a chance.

    I can't put my finger on who Manziel looks like but he kinda has that same look as the guy on the cover of MAD magazine minus the red hair of coarse.

    But the draft went from NFL starters 3 rounds deep from top ta bottom to a couple of maybe's. I don't see much of Russell Wilson when trying to compare him too Menziel, I see more of a Doug Flutie comparison.

    To me he looks like douchey James Franco

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  • 1459751_10151997182929171_2120045159_n.j

    Dude might be a very very good QB but just looking at this picture makes me want to punch him. He looks and acts like a punk...please keep him out of Cleveland.

    @mark-o said:

    1459751_10151997182929171_2120045159_n.j

    Dude might be a very very good QB but just looking at this picture makes me want to punch him. He looks and acts like a punk...please keep him out of Cleveland.

    Honestly, he looks like Brownie
  • This probably figures, but I like Johnny Cash. He was making fun of the "trouble" he got in, which was kind of squeaky compared to actual "trouble." He's a baller.

  • This probably figures, but I like Johnny Cash. He was making fun of the "trouble" he got in, which was kind of squeaky compared to actual "trouble." He's a baller.

    @shep said:

    This probably figures, but I like Johnny Cash. He was making fun of the "trouble" he got in, which was kind of squeaky compared to actual "trouble." He's a baller.

    I'm sorry...He looks like an asshole.

  • I'll take a chance on him If banner and Lombardi like him. I'm giving this ownership/front office the stamp of approval thus far.