Official Browns QB Prospect Discussion!

[Tim Couch Pulls Out]

@miktoxic said:

you know when we meet at one of these tailgates the shit is going off the charts.

that's if you can hang with this FOM (fat old man).

doubt it.

Can't wait. It's going to be one for the ages.

[Shep]

McCarron is so limited and TRULY a "game manager." I think he'll make somebody a nice backup for a long time. Feels a little too Trent Edwards for me. I see him in round 3 with no upside.

Carr and Manziel continued their rises yesterday and Hundley is doing some nice damage control. My gut says one of those three. And thanks, Couch, I like your posts, too.

BUT... I think the Browns do dig Manziel. He's 20. He's proven he can pass from the pocket. He's faster and taller than Wilson. He'd get a year to get physically stronger and watch Hoyer. Don't be too shocked.

Based on not getting near Bridgewater or Mariota, I'm paying the most attention to those three guys.

[Mark O]

Dude might be a very very good QB but just looking at this picture makes me want to punch him. He looks and acts like a punk...please keep him out of Cleveland.

[Zombo]

@mark-o said:

Dude might be a very very good QB but just looking at this picture makes me want to punch him. He looks and acts like a punk...please keep him out of Cleveland.

He's got Steeler written all over him. They trade Ben to Arizona and Manziel picks up on the douchebaggery in Pittsburgh.

Z

[Mark O]

While we're on the QB subject... Cutler is a FA this year. I don't know how old he is and i'm too lazy to look it up but is there any interest there? Cutler, Campbell, Hoyer next year and use the draft for everything else we need.

[next2nothing]

Pass on Cutler. He may have the skill-set of a good QB but he lacks a true leadership personality.

[Mark O]

Hard to say he lacks a leadership personality when he was out on the field playing ridiculously hurt yesterday doing everything he could to help his team win.

[Erie Dawg]

Zombo said:

He's got Steeler written all over him. They trade Ben to Arizona and Manziel picks up on the douchebaggery in Pittsburgh.

Z

I'm on board with that!

Patchwork O-line he don't stand a chance.

I can't put my finger on who Manziel looks like but he kinda has that same look as the guy on the cover of MAD magazine minus the red hair of coarse.

But the draft went from NFL starters 3 rounds deep from top ta bottom to a couple of maybe's. I don't see much of Russell Wilson when trying to compare him too Menziel, I see more of a Doug Flutie comparison.

[Erie Dawg]

I like Cutlers Moxie but not the pricetag and the fact he's been hurt a lot as of late

[Hunt Daddy]

Cutler isn't going anywhere. The Bears are going to resign him.

[The Cysko Kid]

@erie-dawg said:

I'm on board with that!

Patchwork O-line he don't stand a chance.

I can't put my finger on who Manziel looks like but he kinda has that same look as the guy on the cover of MAD magazine minus the red hair of coarse.

But the draft went from NFL starters 3 rounds deep from top ta bottom to a couple of maybe's. I don't see much of Russell Wilson when trying to compare him too Menziel, I see more of a Doug Flutie comparison.

To me he looks like douchey James Franco

[Flyin J]

@mark-o said:

Dude might be a very very good QB but just looking at this picture makes me want to punch him. He looks and acts like a punk...please keep him out of Cleveland.

Honestly, he looks like Brownie

[Shep]

This probably figures, but I like Johnny Cash. He was making fun of the "trouble" he got in, which was kind of squeaky compared to actual "trouble." He's a baller.

[Mark O]

@shep said:

This probably figures, but I like Johnny Cash. He was making fun of the "trouble" he got in, which was kind of squeaky compared to actual "trouble." He's a baller.

I'm sorry...He looks like an asshole.

[The Cysko Kid]

I'll take a chance on him If banner and Lombardi like him. I'm giving this ownership/front office the stamp of approval thus far.

[The Cysko Kid]

[Mark O]

@the-cysko-kid said:

I'll take a chance on him If banner and Lombardi like him. I'm giving this ownership/front office the stamp of approval thus far.

I'll root for him as well if our FO thinks he's the guy. I just hope they don't think he's the guy.

[hoorta]

@shep said:

Assuming the Browns draft a long-term guy in round one, I think neither Campbell nor Hoyer would accept being the guy who isn't Now OR The Future, you know what I'm saying? If you aren't starting the opener and you aren't (say) Manziel, you're really just wasting a year of your career after showing you can play.

I think the Browns would basically have TWO guys who should be starting and then mentoring when they only need one. Let someone else have the other one to mentor THEIR rookie... and take one of their higher picks for the privilege!

Assuming Campbell plays light out the rest of the way- it gets interesting. I thought he was on a one year contract- but wrong-o on my part. We have him for 2014 on the cheap. Hoyer is getting paid peanuts. Sure, we're going to trade one of them-not- because Weeden is so gone, it's unfathomable the Browns would even consider keeping him as a backup, and no way you can get two quarterbacks hurt in the same year. In case you didn't notice Green Bay is in even worse shape than the Browns with Rodgers and now Wallace out. Tennessee is going to be relying on Fitzpatrick, and if he gets the injury bug, they're down to a guy by the name of Rusty Smith. Ever hear of him? They say you can't have enough cornerbacks- at least for next year, the Browns can't have too many quarterbacks. Let's say Campbell does play lights out the rest of the way- what is a reasonable offer for the guy, assuming Lombardi is convinced Hoyer can be "The Guy" for the next 5-8 years? I'd want nothing less than a TR level fleecing of a needy team.

@shep said:

McCarron is so limited and TRULY a "game manager." I think he'll make somebody a nice backup for a long time. Feels a little too Trent Edwards for me. I see him in round 3 with no upside.

Carr and Manziel continued their rises yesterday and Hundley is doing some nice damage control. My gut says one of those three. And thanks, Couch, I like your posts, too.

BUT... I think the Browns do dig Manziel. He's 20. He's proven he can pass from the pocket. He's faster and taller than Wilson. He'd get a year to get physically stronger and watch Hoyer. Don't be too shocked.

Based on not getting near Bridgewater or Mariota, I'm paying the most attention to those three guys.

I finally had a chance to take a brief perusal of Johnny Football's talents. I'm with TC on Manziel. The Browns will IMO give him serious negative points for the off-field crap. Did see him make a couple NFL caliber throws, but his propensity to take of running is going to get him killed in the NFL in short order- he'll get broken in half faster than you can say RG III blown ACL.

[next2nothing]

@mark-o said:

Hard to say he lacks a leadership personality when he was out on the field playing ridiculously hurt yesterday doing everything he could to help his team win.

True. I just have never seen him talking to his offense on the sideline and there was the playoff game a couple years ago he took himself out of when the Bears were still in it.

[Shep]

Some of you guys are behind the curve. Manziel is running less and navigating the pocket more. He put up 490 yards last week, mostly from the pocket, almost like he was showing scouts that he can do either and both.

He has a better arm than Dalton and wheels/creativity probably only topped by a healthy Mike Vick. He doesn't do drugs or beat up undersized Asian students or anything. He likes to have fun and he's 20. How dare he?

It'll be interesting. Carr, Hundley, and Manziel. Which one is best suited for the Browns? Carr is mature and experienced while Hundley and Manziel are both 20.