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  • DieHardBrownsFan DieHardBrownsFanD Conversation Starter Dedicated Reacting Well Very Popular Collaborator Posting Machine First Post One Month Later Week One Done One Year In
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    DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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    "You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.
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      MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by MLD Woody
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      Yeah Chris, DieHard doesn't really ever contribute anything.

      Part of Christianity is knowing that you will take s*** from the rest of the world because of your faith.

      Is that true? How do Christians take shit from "the rest of the world" because of their faith? Do all religions take shit from the rest of the world?

      How was I insulting Christianity here? Do you really think my only goal is to insult JUST Christianity? It is an all religions thing. I did go to PSR for a few years and get my first confession and communion too. I've been on the inside.

      It should just be in a "Religious Works" sections or something. I mean, parts of the Bible actually did happen, they are historic accounts for the most part. Maybe Historical Fiction then? Idk.

      Watched your clip DieHard. I assume that is how you think as well, correct? Stuck a few decades in the past?

      Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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        Yeah Chris, DieHard doesn't really ever contribute anything.

        Part of Christianity is knowing that you will take s*** from the rest of the world because of your faith.

        Is that true? How do Christians take shit from "the rest of the world" because of their faith? Do all religions take shit from the rest of the world?

        How was I insulting Christianity here? Do you really think my only goal is to insult JUST Christianity? It is an all religions thing. I did go to PSR for a few years and get my first confession and communion too. I've been on the inside.

        It should just be in a "Religious Works" sections or something. I mean, parts of the Bible actually did happen, they are historic accounts for the most part. Maybe Historical Fiction then? Idk.

        Watched your clip DieHard. I assume that is how you think as well, correct? Stuck a few decades in the past?

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        gftChrisG gftChris wrote on last edited by
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        @mld-woody said:

        Is that true? How do Christians take shit from "the rest of the world" because of their faith? Do all religions take shit from the rest of the world?

        Yes, christians do take shit from the rest of the world. And by that I don't mean american christians take shit from Iranian muslims, or chinese buddhists. I mean american christians take shit from american atheists, constantly belittling the concept of faith.

        How was I insulting Christianity here? Do you really think my only goal is to insult JUST Christianity? It is an all religions thing. I did go to PSR for a few years and get my first confession and communion too. I've been on the inside.

        I don't think Steve was insinuating you're attacking religion here. The point the two guys are making is that if your faith is strong enough, you don't care what other people say, do and think - as long as it's not actually impacting your life, of course.

        It should just be in a "Religious Works" sections or something. I mean, parts of the Bible actually did happen, they are historic accounts for the most part. Maybe Historical Fiction then? Idk.

        Not historical fiction, that's another thing. Religious works is probably about right. But then you'd include the Koran and the Torah there as well, which would inevitably upset some people.

        Yeah Chris, DieHard doesn't really ever contribute anything.

        Watched your clip DieHard. I assume that is how you think as well, correct? Stuck a few decades in the past?
        I think DieHard is just trolling a bit here.
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          MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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          The bible is a weird mix of true and not true. Do book stores just put all religious works in Non Fiction as to not upset anyone?

          I also think the pastor's quote is partly accurate. No Christians are being persecuted in america. I think it is more of a matter of not being I'm charge anymore, or having less power. Religion is having less of an impact on society so those that want to keep the power will be angered. Is it really prosecution to say Happy Holidays? Is it persecution to not have ANY religious scenes in govt areas? No.

          Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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            Religion wields an amazing amount of power world wide. I'm not sure where you're getting your information.

            Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...
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              Oh Cripes Woodrow.how many of our history books that they use in colleges in high schools to this day are filled with bullshit??

              You I think the accounting of World War 2 is the same here as it is in Japan, England Russia, Germany or Italy?

              And that was 70 fucking years ago...

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                MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                What the hell are you talking about Steve? I havent taken any history classes in college

                Do you disagree with the fact that religion has less of an influence over society than it used to? You know how many friends I have that dont care about religion. You know how many engineering students I know that think that?

                Here is a Gallop Poll about exactly what I was saying: http://www.gallup.com/poll/145409/near-record-high-religion-losing-influence-america.aspx

                Religion is losing its influence in America. Christians arent being persecuted, they just arent always getting their way anymore

                Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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                  DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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                  Faith is an individual thing. If you don't have it, it's not my concern. In the end when you die, you are alone with your faith or lack thereof.

                  "You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.
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                  • MLD WoodyM MLD Woody

                    What the hell are you talking about Steve? I havent taken any history classes in college

                    Do you disagree with the fact that religion has less of an influence over society than it used to? You know how many friends I have that dont care about religion. You know how many engineering students I know that think that?

                    Here is a Gallop Poll about exactly what I was saying: http://www.gallup.com/poll/145409/near-record-high-religion-losing-influence-america.aspx

                    Religion is losing its influence in America. Christians arent being persecuted, they just arent always getting their way anymore

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                    gftChrisG gftChris wrote on last edited by
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                    @mld-woody said:

                    Do you disagree with the fact that religion has less of an influence over society than it used to? You know how many friends I have that dont care about religion.

                    No

                    You know how many engineering students I know that think that?

                    Great sample set...

                    Here is a Gallop Poll about exactly what I was saying: http://www.gallup.com/poll/145409/near-record-high-religion-losing-influence-america.aspx

                    Again you'll have some bias in the type of people reading the Gallup website.

                    Religion is losing its influence in America. Christians arent being persecuted, they just arent always getting their way anymore

                    Christians aren't persecuted and thrown to the lions. They just have to withstand a near constant barrage of people mocking their faith, ridiculing their religious texts and generally lumping them in the same boat as the WBC for abuse.

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                      Religion/faith helps some people cope with the seemingly random craziness

                      of the world. To each his own. Whatever gets you through the day. If it helps

                      keep you from climbing the bell tower with a high-powered rifle, I'm all

                      for it. My problem with religious people starts when they insist on shoving

                      their beliefs in my face, even after I make it clear that I don't want to hear it.

                      From personal experience (my grandfather was a Pentecostal fire and brimstone

                      minister)I can tell you that many believers have equal contempt for non-believers.

                      So the view that "Christians are under attack and are being persecuted" rings a

                      little hollow for me. Christians in Egypt are being persecuted. Me telling you

                      I don't want to hear about or believe your religion doesn't equal persecution.

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                        T The Cysko Kid wrote on last edited by The Cysko Kid
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                        It wasn't until dawkins met his beloved wife Mrs garrison that he realized simply not believing in god was not enough. You had to be a total dick to everyone that does.

                        Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...
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                          MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                          I don't think saying you don't agree with someone means you are being a total dick. Like I said, it all comes back to Christianity not having as much power as it used to in the US.

                          Idc what people do in their own homes or at private buildings. I don't want religion affecting public policy at all though because that affects me.

                          Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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                            Kosar_For_PresidentK Kosar_For_President wrote on last edited by
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                            The earth is flat

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                              I don't think saying you don't agree with someone means you are being a total dick. Like I said, it all comes back to Christianity not having as much power as it used to in the US.

                              Idc what people do in their own homes or at private buildings. I don't want religion affecting public policy at all though because that affects me.

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                              @mld-woody said:

                              I don't think saying you don't agree with someone means you are being a total dick. Like I said, it all comes back to Christianity not having as much power as it used to in the US.

                              Idc what people do in their own homes or at private buildings. I don't want religion affecting public policy at all though because that affects me.

                              In god we trust.

                              "You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.
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                                The earth is flat

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                                @kosar_for_president said:

                                The earth is flat

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                                Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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                                  @mld-woody said:

                                  I don't think saying you don't agree with someone means you are being a total dick. Like I said, it all comes back to Christianity not having as much power as it used to in the US.

                                  Idc what people do in their own homes or at private buildings. I don't want religion affecting public policy at all though because that affects me.

                                  In god we trust.

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                                  @diehardbrownsfan said:

                                  In god we trust.

                                  Good luck with that

                                  Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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                                    DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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                                    "You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.
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                                      I have both friends who are religious Christians and those who are atheists. Both say the other group "persecutes" them. For me, they key is just to tolerate each other so long as no one is harming the other.

                                      As for this whole bible thing, I've found most religious texts at book stores to be shelved under the heading "religion." It isn't rocket science, but I think shelving it under fiction is in poor taste, and I'm not even a Christian.

                                      "I said, 'I need someone who's going to want to get on the roller coaster with me knowing that it's not always going to be fun,'" -Paul DePodesta
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                                        Cysko Is absolutely right. Part of Christianity is knowing that you will take s*** from the rest of the world because of your faith. If you don't doubt your faith who gives a rats ass what Costco does?

                                        Somebody at Costco just thinks he, she or they are being funny by being assholes about it. That's all.

                                        Not much different than woody.

                                        Then again if you call him names and rail at him for his constant insults to Christian faith then I think you are missing the entire point of it.

                                        WSS

                                        Ps I am agnostic on my best day, a true lapsed Christian, so I can call him a d******* if I want to. 😁

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                                        ballpeenB ballpeen wrote on last edited by ballpeen
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                                        @westside-steve said:

                                        Cysko Is absolutely right.

                                        I disagree. The proper label should be Religion. It isn't fiction, biography, auto-biography, science fiction, or anything else. Possibly if could be under self-help, just like any of the other self help books on the market. Can help those seeking the help, doesn't for those not seeking help.

                                        If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
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                                          @westside-steve said:

                                          Cysko Is absolutely right.

                                          I disagree. The proper label should be Religion. It isn't fiction, biography, auto-biography, science fiction, or anything else. Possibly if could be under self-help, just like any of the other self help books on the market. Can help those seeking the help, doesn't for those not seeking help.

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                                          @ballpeen said:

                                          I disagree. The proper label should be Religion. It isn't fiction, biography, auto-biography, science fiction, or anything else. Possibly if could be under self-help, just like any of the other self help books on the market. Can help those seeking the help, doesn't for those not seeking help.

                                          Yes that is correct. What I agreed with is the fact that Christians should expect kind of crap from non believers. Not that the non believers are right. And I believe the people at Costco did this to insult Christians. I'd guess the New Testament would ask believers to pray for them and love them.

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