Joe Haden
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I would vote for Haden as a decent to above average CB, but he is NOT PRO BOWL material
The one bad play cost the team the win. Just ask Haden, and he would would agree. They were winning and Haden gave up the winning play
The so called beautiful INT he had was an under thrown pass that he SHOULD have picked off. That's what good DB's do
He is an above average CB for sure, but he is not a so-called "Shut-down" cb
Shut down CB's play 1 yard in front of the other teams best wr, They don't give up double moves, or ANY cushion. Shut down corners don't let average Wr's catch numerous passes in front of them. And they sure as hell don't give up double moves to lose games
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Just delete this stupid ass thread. Yeah, let's blame our best defensive player because of one bad play. I guess every time Peyton manning throws an int he sucks too? Let's totally forget about the beautiful int he had or the fact he has a pick in 4 straight games.
I'm dead serious can this forum implement temp bans based on stupidity? People can vote to make it democratic.
Exactly. Some Cleveland fans I tell you. Haden was basically in tears after the game about it too. Guys a great player and a great competitor.Just delete this stupid ass thread. Yeah, let's blame our best defensive player because of one bad play. I guess every time Peyton manning throws an int he sucks too? Let's totally forget about the beautiful int he had or the fact he has a pick in 4 straight games.
Don't forget about the 3 turnovers in 90 seconds to end the half that led to 13 points, or the safety on the bum snap.
Alex Mack had a bad snap, he's a terrible center too I guess.
I also remember people blaming Joe Thomas for a couple false starts 1 game for losing. Some even said trade him.
Totally ridiculous.
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Elite CB's don't Ever get 'bite' on double moves with 40 seconds to go in the game
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Exactly. Some Cleveland fans I tell you. Haden was basically in tears after the game about it too. Guys a great player and a great competitor.Just delete this stupid ass thread. Yeah, let's blame our best defensive player because of one bad play. I guess every time Peyton manning throws an int he sucks too? Let's totally forget about the beautiful int he had or the fact he has a pick in 4 straight games.
Don't forget about the 3 turnovers in 90 seconds to end the half that led to 13 points, or the safety on the bum snap.
Alex Mack had a bad snap, he's a terrible center too I guess.
I also remember people blaming Joe Thomas for a couple false starts 1 game for losing. Some even said trade him.
Totally ridiculous.
Exactly. Some Cleveland fans I tell you. Haden was basically in tears after the game about it too. Guys a great player and a great competitor.
Don't forget about the 3 turnovers in 90 seconds to end the half that led to 13 points, or the safety on the bum snap.
Alex Mack had a bad snap, he's a terrible center too I guess.
I also remember people blaming Joe Thomas for a couple false starts 1 game for losing. Some even said trade him.
Totally ridiculous.
he was in tears because he lost the game............. After all the crap that went on, Haden blew the coverage on the play that lost the game
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He might get voted to the pro bowl. and he might deserve it. But when there was 40 seconds left against the jags, and all he had to do was keep some schmuck wr in front of him..............HE FAILED.
"And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve." -
Elite CB's don't Ever get 'bite' on double moves with 40 seconds to go in the game
Yes they do. They all do. Have you ever fucking watched an elite CB? Champ Bailey gets beat all the time. Deion Sanders bit and got beat. Christ, every game would be a shut out if corners controlled the game. Reavis gets burned, Sherman gets burned .. we got beat because our QB turned the ball over three times and our center snapped a lead away ... tell me which fucking "elite" cb never gets beat.
Zombo
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Not when it's 40 seconds to go and the other team only needs a FG to tie the game.
That is time you CAN NOT let a wr behind you.
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Elite CB's don't Ever get 'bite' on double moves with 40 seconds to go in the game
Yes they do. They all do. Have you ever fucking watched an elite CB? Champ Bailey gets beat all the time. Deion Sanders bit and got beat. Christ, every game would be a shut out if corners controlled the game. Reavis gets burned, Sherman gets burned .. we got beat because our QB turned the ball over three times and our center snapped a lead away ... tell me which fucking "elite" cb never gets beat.
Zombo
Zombo said:
Yes they do. They all do. Have you ever fucking watched an elite CB? Champ Bailey gets beat all the time. Deion Sanders bit and got beat. Christ, every game would be a shut out if corners controlled the game. Reavis gets burned, Sherman gets burned .. we got beat because our QB turned the ball over three times and our center snapped a lead away ... tell me which fucking "elite" cb never gets beat.
Zombo
we got beat because we were WINNING THE GAME and our so-called pro bowl CB got smoked
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He might get voted to the pro bowl. and he might deserve it. But when there was 40 seconds left against the jags, and all he had to do was keep some schmuck wr in front of him..............HE FAILED.
He might get voted to the pro bowl. and he might deserve it. But when there was 40 seconds left against the jags, and all he had to do was keep some schmuck wr in front of him..............HE FAILED.
Fuck you, our douchebag QB put us in that position, had they thrown short, haden would be your hero, it's like being a soccer goalie you simply can't be right every fucking time. Go find a better corner. Because lord knows we don't need a better QB.
Zombo
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as bad as weeden played and our rush def played
we were winning until Haden got burned
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REALITY check
The Browns were winning the game............. as bad as EVERYONE HAD PLAYED.
Then the Jags threw a pass to the endzone that Joe Haden coudln't cover
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as bad as weeden played and our rush def played
we were winning until Haden got burned
Go fuck yourself. Go find a better corner. Weeden threw 13 points away and we lost by 4. Every corner gets beat every game, it's a number thing, go fucking blame the corner for our our loss and bury your head in the sand and take it up the ass from your boyfriend while you are at it.
Zombo
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He might get voted to the pro bowl. and he might deserve it. But when there was 40 seconds left against the jags, and all he had to do was keep some schmuck wr in front of him..............HE FAILED.
Fuck you, our douchebag QB put us in that position, had they thrown short, haden would be your hero, it's like being a soccer goalie you simply can't be right every fucking time. Go find a better corner. Because lord knows we don't need a better QB.
Zombo
Zombo said:
Fuck you, our douchebag QB put us in that position, had they thrown short, haden would be your hero, it's like being a soccer goalie you simply can't be right every fucking time. Go find a better corner. Because lord knows we don't need a better QB.
Zombo
I never said we didn't need a better QB...........Lord knows we do.
but that fact remains, THE BROWNS WERE WINNING THE GAME until Joe Haden got burned on a double move when all he had to do was keep the Wr in fornt of him
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REALITY check
The Browns were winning the game............. as bad as EVERYONE HAD PLAYED.
Then the Jags threw a pass to the endzone that Joe Haden coudln't cover
REALITY check
The Browns were winning the game............. as bad as EVERYONE HAD PLAYED.
Then the Jags threw a pass to the endzone that Joe Haden coudln't cover
Couldn't or didn't? he bit on the short route they threw at him all fucking day. I guess you have some special fucking device that tells you when to go deep and 4.3 speed to cover. Seriously, just go fuck yourself. This guy holds guys 90% of the time and the one time he bites it's all his fault we lose? Brandon Fuckin Weeden handed the goodamn ball to them three times in in a row in our own fucking red zone, go fuck yourself. learn a little bit about the game of football and fuck yourself.
Z
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Zombo said:
Fuck you, our douchebag QB put us in that position, had they thrown short, haden would be your hero, it's like being a soccer goalie you simply can't be right every fucking time. Go find a better corner. Because lord knows we don't need a better QB.
Zombo
I never said we didn't need a better QB...........Lord knows we do.
but that fact remains, THE BROWNS WERE WINNING THE GAME until Joe Haden got burned on a double move when all he had to do was keep the Wr in fornt of him
I never said we didn't need a better QB...........Lord knows we do.
but that fact remains, THE BROWNS WERE WINNING THE GAME until Joe Haden got burned on a double move when all he had to do was keep the Wr in fornt of him
All he had to do? He was trying to win the game. He watched their tendencies all day. Had they thrown short and he picked it off you would be sucking his dick right now. Henne made a play. It's the NFL. The best corners in the world can't guess right 100% of the time ... no one can. Fuck you you, go suck Weeden's dick.
Zombo
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All pro DB's DON'T bite on short throws. If he was that good, he would have know they were going over his head. Especially when there is a given FG to tie the game
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Joe Haden said in the loceker room, "IT WAS MY FAULT" "I blew the play"
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Joe Haden said in the loceker room, "IT WAS MY FAULT" "I blew the play"
Sorry that he manned up.
I guess "I didn't hear them booing when I threw that TD" is the way to go.
Zombo
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Joe Haden said in the loceker room, "IT WAS MY FAULT" "I blew the play"
Sorry that he manned up.
I guess "I didn't hear them booing when I threw that TD" is the way to go.
Zombo
Zombo said:
Sorry that he manned up.
I guess "I didn't hear them booing when I threw that TD" is the way to go.
Zombo
don't blame others when you are just as much to blame
good for Haden
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