We should be rooting for Atlanta to have the worst record. Jax, Hou, and Min to lose. w
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I don't pretend to be a college draft guru but I've always heard Bridgewater connected to the read option. The read option is a fad that will not last. Woody you're a douchebag. Jason Campbell is black please note where I disparaged him in any way, ever, as a read option quarterback or shut your face.
Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind... -
I don't pretend to be a college draft guru but I've always heard Bridgewater connected to the read option. The read option is a fad that will not last. Woody you're a douchebag. Jason Campbell is black please note where I disparaged him in any way, ever, as a read option quarterback or shut your face.
I don't pretend to be a college draft guru but I've always heard Bridgewater connected to the read option. The read option is a fad that will not last. Woody you're a douchebag. Jason Campbell is black please note where I disparaged him in any way, ever, as a read option quarterback or shut your face.
He does not run the read-option. He runs a pro-attack style of offense, predicated on play action. Not the same as the offense Luck ran in Stanford, but he is none-the-less more of a pocket passer than the many read-option QBs in NCAA...
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So I'm wrong then. Wouldnt be the first time, but I'm not imagining that he's been connected as a read option quarterback. Doesn't matter anyway if he goes #1 we won't get him. Even so I still like McCarron and I think he's getting no love in a draft where all the quarterbacks have question marks. For the record I have no interest in manziel either, and I think anyone ought to give Kenny guiton a late round look. I don't see "running" quarterbacks as the way to go in the NFL. It's a fad.
Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind... -
I don't pretend to be a college draft guru but I've always heard Bridgewater connected to the read option. The read option is a fad that will not last. Woody you're a douchebag. Jason Campbell is black please note where I disparaged him in any way, ever, as a read option quarterback or shut your face.
I don't pretend to be a college draft guru but I've always heard Bridgewater connected to the read option. The read option is a fad that will not last. Woody you're a douchebag. Jason Campbell is black please note where I disparaged him in any way, ever, as a read option quarterback or shut your face.
Peckerhead's boyfriend is black. He is very sensitive.
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bridgewater will be a bust in the NFL. Mariota will be a stud as will Johnny.
LOL you heard it here first. Johnny Manziel will be a HUGE bust. HUGE, like, worse then Tebow. Tebow won a playoff game, johnny wont ever.
Bridgewater will be decent, but i'm not sold on any QB. However AJ will be better then most think
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Did someone just compare Teddy fucking Bridgewater to RG3?
Look at Teddy's rushing numbers then get back to me, jesus christ. Teddy is nothing but a pocket passer, he's one of the only QB's in all of college football that has complete control of his offense. He's extremely football smart, and has all the tools to succeed...in the pocket.
He's got 25 TD's to 3 INT, a 71% completion rating and he's the best pure passer in the draft. He is basically equal as a prospect to Aaron Rodgers as a prospect in 05.
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We have blown it 40 times in the last few years on idiotic qb selections....Please don't waste a pick trading up and please don't make a mistake Bridgewater or especially Johnny Football...he will not make it in the pros...Need to get a guy like Hundley who can scramble but is a pocket type qb...the Michael Vick, RGIII type guys cant last in this league...........
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I've been watching way too much college football this year trying to spot the next Brown's QB. I'm beginning to think the guys on here who have been saying not to move up and take one of the big names might be right. College football is not the same game. Big numbers in college football don't translate into big numbers in the NFL. Do your homework, shore up the lines on both sides of the ball, get a QB, but he doesn't have to start right away. It's a boring, same old same old, but the team has to have a foundation to build from.
I've been watching way too much college football this year trying to spot the next Brown's QB. I'm beginning to think the guys on here who have been saying not to move up and take one of the big names might be right. College football is not the same game. Big numbers in college football don't translate into big numbers in the NFL. Do your homework, shore up the lines on both sides of the ball, get a QB, but he doesn't have to start right away. It's a boring, same old same old, but the team has to have a foundation to build from.
smartest post on here today.
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I have zero interest on Bridgewater. Zero. I'd rather have game manager A.J. McCarron. Bridgewater is part of a fad which will soon be over.
What fad? Bridgewater is a pocket passer with great arm talent and more pocket presence than most NFL quarterbacks. He's considered the 2nd most "day one ready" draft pick of the past five years (behind only Luck).
He's not a runner or RO guy at all.
I have zero interest on Bridgewater. Zero. I'd rather have game manager A.J. McCarron. Bridgewater is part of a fad which will soon be over.
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Did someone just compare Teddy fucking Bridgewater to RG3?
Look at Teddy's rushing numbers then get back to me, jesus christ. Teddy is nothing but a pocket passer, he's one of the only QB's in all of college football that has complete control of his offense. He's extremely football smart, and has all the tools to succeed...in the pocket.
He's got 25 TD's to 3 INT, a 71% completion rating and he's the best pure passer in the draft. He is basically equal as a prospect to Aaron Rodgers as a prospect in 05.
Thank. God.
Rodgers had the knock of not starting enough D1 games and the past failure of Cal QBs who were taught by Tedford to hold the ball weird or something. That's when scouting group think goes fucking haywire!
Bridgewater is the consensus #1 for excellent reasons. On top of it all, he's a fantastic teammate and leader, A+ character. It doesn't get a whole lot better.
Did someone just compare Teddy fucking Bridgewater to RG3?
Look at Teddy's rushing numbers then get back to me, jesus christ. Teddy is nothing but a pocket passer, he's one of the only QB's in all of college football that has complete control of his offense. He's extremely football smart, and has all the tools to succeed...in the pocket.
He's got 25 TD's to 3 INT, a 71% completion rating and he's the best pure passer in the draft. He is basically equal as a prospect to Aaron Rodgers as a prospect in 05.
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Turnarounds happen because of QBs. That's what the homework shows. Peyton to Denver, Brees to New Orleans, Luck to Indy, Favre to Minnesota, Big Ben to Pittsburgh, Flacco to Ravens (remember when they were an Every Other Year Team?), Stafford to Lions, Wilson to Seattle, Smith to KC, Newton to Panthers, etc.
No team sucked, kept playing the same QB, added a couple guards, and got real good. Just not the way it works.
No shortcuts, guys. You have to get a great quarterback or you aren't relevant.
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Is it just me or has Kid gotten really, really smart?
In addition to questions about translating his game to the NFL (see below), I still think he lacks the physicality to survive in the league.
"It" in a nutshell...
Maybe, but certainly does not require a trade up to find out if he does.
I'm still not there yet on him, but I was watching little of him last nite and had a Warren Moon flashback moment.
That's what I'm saying. He fits all of the physical criteria. His biggest knocks are that he's unprepared and needs high level coaching, things we can give him while Hoyer completes his tryout. And his stock is sliding...which means we can get him at our regularly scheduled pick.
I've never been an advocate for trading up. As a matter of fact, I've been vehemently against it.
Thinking all you need is a QB is the shortcut, fools gold, Shep.
I've never been an advocate for trading up. As a matter of fact, I've been vehemently against it.
I know that, TC. I was merely trying to point out that not having to trade up is a Hundley advantage.
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we get you dude but you still have to realize it's like playing dice.
it's all a crapshoot, even with all the info in the world about a guy.
who's to say the #6 overall rated QB coming out into the draft won't have a better career than the #1?
you don't.
i think we'll be fine where we end up in the draft order and have 8 out of the top ten QBs still there waiting for us to pick one. the list of QBs above you mentioned weren't the overall #1 picks.
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if we can, get Bridgewater. And trade up for him.. spend the picks.
If the Jags aren't stupid, we should get Derek Carr from Fresno St - yes, David's little brother, but Derek's not a bust.
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I think the key is getting two good guards. That way you have a better chance of having a running game and with a running game it takes pressure off the quarterback no matter who he is.
And that can make a mediocre quarterback look good and a good one look great.
WSS
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no trading up, no spending picks.
if you think QB is the only position that we need to upgrade then you haven't been watching this team for the last decade and 1/2.
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no trading up, no spending picks.
if you think QB is the only position that we need to upgrade then you haven't been watching this team for the last decade and 1/2.
no trading up, no spending picks.
if you think QB is the only position that we need to upgrade then you haven't been watching this team for the last decade and 1/2.
The 1st round is not the only place you can upgrade a position.
And if you watched this team this year with Hoyer you can see that a good QB who gets rid of the ball quickly makes a line that much better, guards are not really a position that needs to be addressed in the 1st round, if we can get Teddy...I'm down. I know we do need guards, and a RB, and a FB, and like...two tight ends..but you can't expect us to fill all that in one year anyway..and it won't be in the draft we need free agency as well.
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Turnarounds happen because of QBs. That's what the homework shows. Peyton to Denver, Brees to New Orleans, Luck to Indy, Favre to Minnesota, Big Ben to Pittsburgh, Flacco to Ravens (remember when they were an Every Other Year Team?), Stafford to Lions, Wilson to Seattle, Smith to KC, Newton to Panthers, etc.
No team sucked, kept playing the same QB, added a couple guards, and got real good. Just not the way it works.
No shortcuts, guys. You have to get a great quarterback or you aren't relevant. Shep
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Correct. And wrong. Denver was already a playoff team. Brees? I don't remember where they were.
Luck? Already a playoff team. Minnesota not so much. Rapistbooger? Flacco? Stafford? Wilson?...
Those and other qbs went to teams that were getting stacked with talent.
Once you get your offense pretty well set to compete, at least... that qb can come in
and away you go.
Or, failing that, you go to that qb way too early, and he gets the hell beaten out of him.
Like Archie Manning. Couch. And what's his name SI "thoroughbred" qb who went to the
dismal Colts way back, whose name I can never remember.... Can you imagine if Elway had gone to the Saints back in the "Aints" day?
A lot of "great qbs" do poorly with crap teams.
But right now, the Browns offense is being held back, badly, by two qbs, plain and simple.
You put an excellent pass protecting OG in place of Lauvao, get a big time rb back there,
and add the legit blue chip qb, and there ya go.
The Browns need that bigtime exact-fit qb on the roster next year, to learn,
at least for a while, behind Hoyer.
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Turnarounds happen because of QBs. That's what the homework shows. Peyton to Denver, Brees to New Orleans, Luck to Indy, Favre to Minnesota, Big Ben to Pittsburgh, Flacco to Ravens (remember when they were an Every Other Year Team?), Stafford to Lions, Wilson to Seattle, Smith to KC, Newton to Panthers, etc.
No team sucked, kept playing the same QB, added a couple guards, and got real good. Just not the way it works.
No shortcuts, guys. You have to get a great quarterback or you aren't relevant. Shep
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Correct. And wrong. Denver was already a playoff team. Brees? I don't remember where they were.
Luck? Already a playoff team. Minnesota not so much. Rapistbooger? Flacco? Stafford? Wilson?...
Those and other qbs went to teams that were getting stacked with talent.
Once you get your offense pretty well set to compete, at least... that qb can come in
and away you go.
Or, failing that, you go to that qb way too early, and he gets the hell beaten out of him.
Like Archie Manning. Couch. And what's his name SI "thoroughbred" qb who went to the
dismal Colts way back, whose name I can never remember.... Can you imagine if Elway had gone to the Saints back in the "Aints" day?
A lot of "great qbs" do poorly with crap teams.
But right now, the Browns offense is being held back, badly, by two qbs, plain and simple.
You put an excellent pass protecting OG in place of Lauvao, get a big time rb back there,
and add the legit blue chip qb, and there ya go.
The Browns need that bigtime exact-fit qb on the roster next year, to learn,
at least for a while, behind Hoyer.
Turnarounds happen because of QBs. That's what the homework shows. Peyton to Denver, Brees to New Orleans, Luck to Indy, Favre to Minnesota, Big Ben to Pittsburgh, Flacco to Ravens (remember when they were an Every Other Year Team?), Stafford to Lions, Wilson to Seattle, Smith to KC, Newton to Panthers, etc.
No team sucked, kept playing the same QB, added a couple guards, and got real good. Just not the way it works.
No shortcuts, guys. You have to get a great quarterback or you aren't relevant. Shep
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Correct. And wrong. Denver was already a playoff team. Brees? I don't remember where they were.
Luck? Already a playoff team. Minnesota not so much. Rapistbooger? Flacco? Stafford? Wilson?...
Those and other qbs went to teams that were getting stacked with talent.
Once you get your offense pretty well set to compete, at least... that qb can come in
and away you go.
Or, failing that, you go to that qb way too early, and he gets the hell beaten out of him.
Like Archie Manning. Couch. And what's his name SI "thoroughbred" qb who went to the
dismal Colts way back, whose name I can never remember.... Can you imagine if Elway had gone to the Saints back in the "Aints" day?
A lot of "great qbs" do poorly with crap teams.
But right now, the Browns offense is being held back, badly, by two qbs, plain and simple.
You put an excellent pass protecting OG in place of Lauvao, get a big time rb back there,
and add the legit blue chip qb, and there ya go.
The Browns need that bigtime exact-fit qb on the roster next year, to learn,
at least for a while, behind Hoyer.
Maybe Jeff George?
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