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What if the FO doesn't see a franchise qb in this draft?

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  • C CLEVELandMILIDH

    I'd take Jay Cutler or Matt Schaub for a couple years while we develop a guy from this draft

    @clevelandmilidh said:

    I'd take blahblah or Matt Schaub for a couple years while we develop a guy from this draft

    I hope you meant someone else.

  • We need a top ILB with that pick from the Colts more than a WR2 who catches 3 balls a game at best.

    We need Carr/Hundley with that pick at the top of the first. It will be high because we won't win another game.

    Hoyer can start the first few games until our QB is ready to go.. throwing the new guy to the wolves isn't working out well for the Jets.

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  • C CLEVELandMILIDH

    I'd take Jay Cutler or Matt Schaub for a couple years while we develop a guy from this draft

    @clevelandmilidh said:

    I'd take Jay Cutler or Matt Schaub for a couple years while we develop a guy from this draft

    I wouldn't take either. Jay Cutler is overrated, he's on his second team and hasn't done squat. Even Grossman got them to the Superbowl. Schaub is a turnover machine and was benched for an undrafted rookie, nuff said.

  • Both are ten times better than anything we've had in recent memory.......sign me up for mediocre

    1st Ezekiel Ansah, DE, BYU 3rd Darius Slay, CB, Mississippi State4th Landry Jones, QB, Oklahoma5th Earl Wolff, S, N.C. State6th Lucas Reed, TE, New Mexico
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  • C CLEVELandMILIDH

    Both are ten times better than anything we've had in recent memory.......sign me up for mediocre

    @clevelandmilidh said:

    Both are ten times better than anything we've had in recent memory.......sign me up for mediocre

    I'd venture to say we have 2 quarterbacks on our roster better than schaub, I think cutler is closer to average than good too.

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  • C CLEVELandMILIDH

    Both are ten times better than anything we've had in recent memory.......sign me up for mediocre

    @clevelandmilidh said:

    Both are ten times better than anything we've had in recent memory.......sign me up for mediocre

    Agreed. I would have to see it before I believed either could be worse than Weeden
  • bbedwardB bbedward

    @clevelandmilidh said:

    Both are ten times better than anything we've had in recent memory.......sign me up for mediocre

    I'd venture to say we have 2 quarterbacks on our roster better than schaub, I think cutler is closer to average than good too.

    @bbedward said:

    I'd venture to say we have 2 quarterbacks on our roster better than schaub, I think cutler is closer to average than good too.

    You think way too highly of weed/camp
  • ComeonmanC Comeonman

    @bbedward said:

    I'd venture to say we have 2 quarterbacks on our roster better than schaub, I think cutler is closer to average than good too.

    You think way too highly of weed/camp

    @comeonman said:

    You think way too highly of weed/camp

    He was probably referring to Hoyer/Campbell

  • Bilgewater would be a moron to stay in school and risk a knee injury that would cost him literally millions of dollars.

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  • W Westside Steve

    Bilgewater would be a moron to stay in school and risk a knee injury that would cost him literally millions of dollars.

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    Bilgewater would be a moron to stay in school and risk a knee injury that would cost him literally millions of dollars.

    WSS

    well then you have to call clowney and his agent morons for doing the same this year. even though he powdered-puffed his play down.

    for once i agee with xxxbuckeye fan. trade for mallet. the dude is good. and let him and hoyer battle it out in training camp.

    mallet is like brady or rodgers....a star waiting to start but will only get the chance on his team until the golden boy goes down like couch did for five years.

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  • If we get Mallet by some sort of Lombardi magic, do you guys still want to draft a QB? If that happens F no. we need to solidify our depth chart and our starters of the future.

  • miktoxicM miktoxic

    @westside-steve said:

    Bilgewater would be a moron to stay in school and risk a knee injury that would cost him literally millions of dollars.

    WSS

    well then you have to call clowney and his agent morons for doing the same this year. even though he powdered-puffed his play down.

    for once i agee with xxxbuckeye fan. trade for mallet. the dude is good. and let him and hoyer battle it out in training camp.

    mallet is like brady or rodgers....a star waiting to start but will only get the chance on his team until the golden boy goes down like couch did for five years.

    @miktoxic said:

    well then you have to call clowney and his agent morons for doing the same this year. even though he powdered-puffed his play down.

    for once i agee with xxxbuckeye fan. trade for mallet. the dude is good. and let him and hoyer battle it out in training camp.

    mallet is like brady or rodgers....a star waiting to start but will only get the chance on his team until the golden boy goes down like couch did for five years.

    If Clowney or his agent choose to stay in college for another year, yes I think they were morons too.

    I think if you are sure to be picked in the top three or four spots it would be foolish to risk career ending injury.

    Maybe is major is pre med and he plans to be a doctor so the NFL really has nothing to offer him. But I kind of doubt it.

    As far as Ryan Mallett goes, isn't he Bills backup? If so what do you suppose the coach would want in return for jeopardizing the future of his team? If in fact Ryan now what is Tom Brady or Aaron Rodgers?

    You do remember when everyone was excited to trade for Matt Schaub right?

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  • W Westside Steve

    @miktoxic said:

    well then you have to call clowney and his agent morons for doing the same this year. even though he powdered-puffed his play down.

    for once i agee with xxxbuckeye fan. trade for mallet. the dude is good. and let him and hoyer battle it out in training camp.

    mallet is like brady or rodgers....a star waiting to start but will only get the chance on his team until the golden boy goes down like couch did for five years.

    If Clowney or his agent choose to stay in college for another year, yes I think they were morons too.

    I think if you are sure to be picked in the top three or four spots it would be foolish to risk career ending injury.

    Maybe is major is pre med and he plans to be a doctor so the NFL really has nothing to offer him. But I kind of doubt it.

    As far as Ryan Mallett goes, isn't he Bills backup? If so what do you suppose the coach would want in return for jeopardizing the future of his team? If in fact Ryan now what is Tom Brady or Aaron Rodgers?

    You do remember when everyone was excited to trade for Matt Schaub right?

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    If Clowney or his agent choose to stay in college for another year, yes I think they were morons too.

    I think if you are sure to be picked in the top three or four spots it would be foolish to risk career ending injury.

    Maybe is major is pre med and he plans to be a doctor so the NFL really has nothing to offer him. But I kind of doubt it.

    As far as Ryan Mallett goes, isn't he Bills backup? If so what do you suppose the coach would want in return for jeopardizing the future of his team? If in fact Ryan now what is Tom Brady or Aaron Rodgers?

    You do remember when everyone was excited to trade for Matt Schaub right?

    WSS

    Matt Schaub...... lol I remember that. Texans have just fell apart this year. They entered this year looking like playoff contenders.

  • Flyin JF Flyin J

    I think we should take a good long look at Mallett....seriously. maybe give em like a 2nd and 4th for him and we could draft another guy late.

    XxDaBuckeyexX said:

    I think we should take a good long look at Mallett....seriously. maybe give em like a 2nd and 4th for him and we could draft another guy late.

    We have Mallet already in Weeden.

    In terms of physicality, arm strength and football IQ, they're the same player. They're probably also on the same level in decision making and comfort in the pocket, which is awful on our part because Weeden has been playing for two seasons while Mallet hasn't.

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  • Clowneys major is African-American studies.

    In other words, Clowneys major is football.

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  • it's better than a P.E. major.

  • Tim Couch Pulls OutT Tim Couch Pulls Out

    Clowneys major is African-American studies.

    In other words, Clowneys major is football.

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    Clowneys major is African-American studies.

    In other words, Clowneys major is football.

    I think Ray Lewis majored in that also. Whatever that is.

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  • Tim Couch Pulls OutT Tim Couch Pulls Out

    XxDaBuckeyexX said:

    I think we should take a good long look at Mallett....seriously. maybe give em like a 2nd and 4th for him and we could draft another guy late.

    We have Mallet already in Weeden.

    In terms of physicality, arm strength and football IQ, they're the same player. They're probably also on the same level in decision making and comfort in the pocket, which is awful on our part because Weeden has been playing for two seasons while Mallet hasn't.

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    We have Mallet already in Weeden.

    In terms of physicality, arm strength and football IQ, they're the same player. They're probably also on the same level in decision making and comfort in the pocket, which is awful on our part because Weeden has been playing for two seasons while Mallet hasn't.

    Not really sure where you figured this out about Mallett. Plus Mallett is 6 or 7 years younger than Weeden and still has room to grow. I'd take a chance on him before drafting Bortles or Garappolo. If we can get Carr, do it, but Mallett may be the best bet after him.
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  • A Adoug319

    IMO, I don't see a franchise qb in this draft. The best qb seems to be Derek Carr, but we will see. Other than that, what is there? I bet bridgewater goes back to school, he doesn't look as ready as everyone thought.

    So, we're kind of in a tough position. Does the FO try to rush and get a qb in this draft (ala Holmgren getting Weeden) or do we wait until the 2015 draft, which seems like a much better qb class.

    If we don't get a qb, were in a tough situation and we'd be putting all our chips in on Hoyer, and who would our backup be? But qb is our Achilles heel, we can be so good with a competent qb..

    @adoug319 said:

    IMO, I don't see a franchise qb in this draft. The best qb seems to be Derek Carr, but we will see. Other than that, what is there? I bet bridgewater goes back to school, he doesn't look as ready as everyone thought.

    So, we're kind of in a tough position. Does the FO try to rush and get a qb in this draft (ala Holmgren getting Weeden) or do we wait until the 2015 draft, which seems like a much better qb class.

    If we don't get a qb, were in a tough situation and we'd be putting all our chips in on Hoyer, and who would our backup be? But qb is our Achilles heel, we can be so good with a competent qb..

    Agree on no franchise QB in 2014 draft. To me that means none is worth a first round pick. But IMO you have to draft a QB nearly every year, so...

    There are a few with potential in 2nd round and on. As a third rounder I thought McCarron was a no brainer, but now he's looking more like a solid 2nd. Fales should be around in the 4th. There are a couple interesting 7th round picks, i.e., Guiton and TCU's Paschall.

    Want a longer shot FA? Invite Tyler Russell to camp. He was Miss. St's pre-season projected starter, but missed most of the year due to injury. He came back late in a loss to Bama and season ending win over Arkansas. Going into the year he was projected as high as the 2nd round.

    Our 2014 QB depth chart: Hoyer / Campbell / Rookie TBD

    @clevelandmilidh said:

    I'd take Jay Cutler or Matt Schaub for a couple years while we develop a guy from this draft

    A has been and a never was...

    @westside-steve said:

    Bilgewater would be a moron to stay in school and risk a knee injury that would cost him literally millions of dollars.

    Bilgewater... lol... not sure why this did not occur to me before.

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  • Looking at Mallet would be fine and if he really knocks you out you swing a deal but I doubt it. Schaub would be just ok as a back up at most. I am not sold on Cutler at all, his abilities and drive seem to fluctuate drastically.

    Overall I agree with the OP, I do not see a franchise QB in this draft. In that case we should not reach. Take a guy in the 2nd or 3rd with upside and let him compete with and / or learn from Hoyer. Frankly wiwth our track record I would take a QB in the 2nd and another somewhere between 4th and 7th.

    With Hoyer at the helm and the rest of the draft picks shoring up the right side of the OL, a good number 2 receiver and a decent power back to complement Dion Lewis we are money.

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