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  • B BigJim

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    Yes. Most quarterbacks have thrown 60 yard passes while under zero pressure to wide open receivers.

    How about this one? Looks like a ton of pressure and he doesn't even step into the throw. That thing is thrown on a rope from about the 17 and ends up near the 20 yard line. That's about 63 yards in the air.

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    @bigjim said:

    That thing is thrown on a rope from about the 17 and ends up near the 20 yard line. That's about 63 yards in the air.

    One of us clearly does not know the meaning of "thrown on a rope"... and it ain't me...

    @cuwoohio said:

    "I'd pick neither and wait for Jameis."

    That would be a hell of a crapshoot. They have the picks this year.

    And there is absolutely nothing that prevents us from rolling some of our 2014's out to and up in the 2015 draft.

    As Shep has said... no way are we actually going to draft a player with each of the 2014's we currently hold.

    @cuwoohio said:

    Who could argue with that draft.

    I'l be happy to if no one else wants it... 😉

    For starters, I don't see Hyde lasting all the way to our 3b...

    There are a lot of mirages in this QB desert. While I am starting to warm to Hundley, I'm just not there yet.

    So far the only risk/ reward pick I see as worthy in this draft remains as it has been... McCarron in the third... perhaps late second.

    ***************************************************************

    Here's my bottom line on this whole topic...

    Our FO is responsible for putting two, good NFLcalibere QBs on our season opening roster. By going 2 for 2 I'm willing to accept theirjudgmentt if and when they take a QB in the 2014 draft.

    Ditto if they opt to trade away picks and/ or players for a current NFL QB.

    "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
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  • Tour2maT Tour2ma

    @bigjim said:

    That thing is thrown on a rope from about the 17 and ends up near the 20 yard line. That's about 63 yards in the air.

    One of us clearly does not know the meaning of "thrown on a rope"... and it ain't me...

    @cuwoohio said:

    "I'd pick neither and wait for Jameis."

    That would be a hell of a crapshoot. They have the picks this year.

    And there is absolutely nothing that prevents us from rolling some of our 2014's out to and up in the 2015 draft.

    As Shep has said... no way are we actually going to draft a player with each of the 2014's we currently hold.

    @cuwoohio said:

    Who could argue with that draft.

    I'l be happy to if no one else wants it... 😉

    For starters, I don't see Hyde lasting all the way to our 3b...

    There are a lot of mirages in this QB desert. While I am starting to warm to Hundley, I'm just not there yet.

    So far the only risk/ reward pick I see as worthy in this draft remains as it has been... McCarron in the third... perhaps late second.

    ***************************************************************

    Here's my bottom line on this whole topic...

    Our FO is responsible for putting two, good NFLcalibere QBs on our season opening roster. By going 2 for 2 I'm willing to accept theirjudgmentt if and when they take a QB in the 2014 draft.

    Ditto if they opt to trade away picks and/ or players for a current NFL QB.

    @tour2ma said:

    One of us clearly does not know the meaning of "thrown on a rope"... and it ain't me...

    And there is absolutely nothing that prevents us from rolling some of our 2014's out to and up in the 2015 draft.

    As Shep has said... no way are we actually going to draft a player with each of the 2014's we currently hold.

    I'l be happy to if no one else wants it... 😉

    For starters, I don't see Hyde lasting all the way to our 3b...

    There are a lot of mirages in this QB desert. While I am starting to warm to Hundley, I'm just not there yet.

    So far the only risk/ reward pick I see as worthy in this draft remains as it has been... McCarron in the third... perhaps late second.

    ***************************************************************

    Here's my bottom line on this whole topic...

    Our FO is responsible for putting two, good NFLcalibere QBs on our season opening roster. By going 2 for 2 I'm willing to accept theirjudgmentt if and when they take a QB in the 2014 draft.

    Ditto if they opt to trade away picks and/ or players for a current NFL QB.

    I wouldn't be opposed to McCarron but I don't believe he's on the FO's radar.

    Based off what we know, Chud and Norv have, for the better part of the last decade, nearly always had guys who oozed athletic talent with Howitzer arms. They haven't always been the most mobile (I'm looking at you, DA), but the one common denominator has been above average arm strength.

    I don't know why that would change now, especially with them together again.

    I think we'd see a Mettenberger before a McCarron.

    I'm awesome, and I fuck dolphins. Ghoolie 12/2/2012: I have absolutely no skills, training or pride
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  • Tour2maT Tour2ma

    @bigjim said:

    That thing is thrown on a rope from about the 17 and ends up near the 20 yard line. That's about 63 yards in the air.

    One of us clearly does not know the meaning of "thrown on a rope"... and it ain't me...

    @cuwoohio said:

    "I'd pick neither and wait for Jameis."

    That would be a hell of a crapshoot. They have the picks this year.

    And there is absolutely nothing that prevents us from rolling some of our 2014's out to and up in the 2015 draft.

    As Shep has said... no way are we actually going to draft a player with each of the 2014's we currently hold.

    @cuwoohio said:

    Who could argue with that draft.

    I'l be happy to if no one else wants it... 😉

    For starters, I don't see Hyde lasting all the way to our 3b...

    There are a lot of mirages in this QB desert. While I am starting to warm to Hundley, I'm just not there yet.

    So far the only risk/ reward pick I see as worthy in this draft remains as it has been... McCarron in the third... perhaps late second.

    ***************************************************************

    Here's my bottom line on this whole topic...

    Our FO is responsible for putting two, good NFLcalibere QBs on our season opening roster. By going 2 for 2 I'm willing to accept theirjudgmentt if and when they take a QB in the 2014 draft.

    Ditto if they opt to trade away picks and/ or players for a current NFL QB.

    @tour2ma said:

    One of us clearly does not know the meaning of "thrown on a rope"... and it ain't me...

    Sure it's not thrown in a direct straight line with no arc, but that's about as flat and fast as you can possibly throw a ball 60+ yards.

  • Completion percentage on balls thrown 6 yards or more.

    Derek Carr= 54%

    Johnny Manziel= 65%

    Just sayin....

  • Tim Couch Pulls OutT Tim Couch Pulls Out

    @tour2ma said:

    One of us clearly does not know the meaning of "thrown on a rope"... and it ain't me...

    And there is absolutely nothing that prevents us from rolling some of our 2014's out to and up in the 2015 draft.

    As Shep has said... no way are we actually going to draft a player with each of the 2014's we currently hold.

    I'l be happy to if no one else wants it... 😉

    For starters, I don't see Hyde lasting all the way to our 3b...

    There are a lot of mirages in this QB desert. While I am starting to warm to Hundley, I'm just not there yet.

    So far the only risk/ reward pick I see as worthy in this draft remains as it has been... McCarron in the third... perhaps late second.

    ***************************************************************

    Here's my bottom line on this whole topic...

    Our FO is responsible for putting two, good NFLcalibere QBs on our season opening roster. By going 2 for 2 I'm willing to accept theirjudgmentt if and when they take a QB in the 2014 draft.

    Ditto if they opt to trade away picks and/ or players for a current NFL QB.

    I wouldn't be opposed to McCarron but I don't believe he's on the FO's radar.

    Based off what we know, Chud and Norv have, for the better part of the last decade, nearly always had guys who oozed athletic talent with Howitzer arms. They haven't always been the most mobile (I'm looking at you, DA), but the one common denominator has been above average arm strength.

    I don't know why that would change now, especially with them together again.

    I think we'd see a Mettenberger before a McCarron.

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    I think we'd see a Mettenberger before a McCarron.

    With Mettenberger's draft slot dropping dramatically post injury, I have far less of a problem with us picking him. Never saw him as a #1 though.

    @bigjim said:

    Sure it's not thrown in a direct straight line with no arc, but that's about as flat and fast as you can possibly throw a ball 60+ yards.

    Fair enough...

    "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196

  • Romo or Weeden?

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  • Romo by far. Are you kidding?

  • Last night on SNF Peter King said a team likely to pick in the top 5 was very high on Blake Bortles, could very well be the Browns.

    Any word on this guy?

    http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=105489&draftyear=2015&genpos=QB

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  • BadNewsBrownsB BadNewsBrowns

    Last night on SNF Peter King said a team likely to pick in the top 5 was very high on Blake Bortles, could very well be the Browns.

    Any word on this guy?

    http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=105489&draftyear=2015&genpos=QB

    @badnewsbrowns said:

    Last night on SNF Peter King said a team likely to pick in the top 5 was very high on Blake Bortles, could very well be the Browns.

    Any word on this guy?

    http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=105489&draftyear=2015&genpos=QB

    http://factoryofsadness.sportsblog.com/posts/217022/future_cleveland_browns_qb_scouting.html

    I'm awesome, and I fuck dolphins. Ghoolie 12/2/2012: I have absolutely no skills, training or pride
  • Tim Couch Pulls OutT Tim Couch Pulls Out

    @badnewsbrowns said:

    Last night on SNF Peter King said a team likely to pick in the top 5 was very high on Blake Bortles, could very well be the Browns.

    Any word on this guy?

    http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=105489&draftyear=2015&genpos=QB

    http://factoryofsadness.sportsblog.com/posts/217022/future_cleveland_browns_qb_scouting.html

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    What? Sounds like a combination of Bernie Kosar and Ben Roethlisberger according to this review.

  • The GipperT The Gipper

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    What? Sounds like a combination of Bernie Kosar and Ben Roethlisberger according to this review.

    @the-gipper said:

    What? Sounds like a combination of Bernie Kosar and Ben Roethlisberger according to this review.

    That's kind of what he is. He makes ridiculous plays when he shouldn't.

    Like this one:

    He has a good frame, nice arm and average speed. But most of all, he's scrappy. He singlehandedly finishes plays, a quality that all AFC North QB's possess.

    Except Weeden.

    He could stand some coaching, however. I think it would be great for him to come on and wait for a year behind Hoyer.

    I'm awesome, and I fuck dolphins. Ghoolie 12/2/2012: I have absolutely no skills, training or pride

  • who are the top 5 QBs coming out this year (as of now)?

    take a look at that list and by 3/2014 the positions of those QBs will not be the same and some might not even be on the list anymore.

  • Even better mock draft by Charlie Campbell on walterfootball.com ...

    1a. Sammy Watkins - WR - Clemson

    1b. Derek Carr - QB - Fres St

    2. Ka'deem Carey - RB - Arizona

    3a. A.J. Johnson - ILB - Tennessee

    3b. Tre Boston - CB - UNC

    These guys are mock drafting us right to the Super Bowl...

    #Justsayin'
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  • The first 10 pick mock draft on SI.com this morning had Carr going in the top 10. But did have us taking Watkins with our first first round pick.

  • thenew23T thenew23

    Even better mock draft by Charlie Campbell on walterfootball.com ...

    1a. Sammy Watkins - WR - Clemson

    1b. Derek Carr - QB - Fres St

    2. Ka'deem Carey - RB - Arizona

    3a. A.J. Johnson - ILB - Tennessee

    3b. Tre Boston - CB - UNC

    These guys are mock drafting us right to the Super Bowl...

    @thenew23 said:

    Even better mock draft by Charlie Campbell on walterfootball.com ...

    1a. Sammy Watkins - WR - Clemson

    1b. Derek Carr - QB - Fres St

    2. Ka'deem Carey - RB - Arizona

    3a. A.J. Johnson - ILB - Tennessee

    3b. Tre Boston - CB - UNC

    These guys are mock drafting us right to the Super Bowl...

    All positions of need. I like it

    "And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve."
  • thenew23T thenew23

    Even better mock draft by Charlie Campbell on walterfootball.com ...

    1a. Sammy Watkins - WR - Clemson

    1b. Derek Carr - QB - Fres St

    2. Ka'deem Carey - RB - Arizona

    3a. A.J. Johnson - ILB - Tennessee

    3b. Tre Boston - CB - UNC

    These guys are mock drafting us right to the Super Bowl...

    @thenew23 said:

    Even better mock draft by Charlie Campbell on walterfootball.com ...

    1a. Sammy Watkins - WR - Clemson

    1b. Derek Carr - QB - Fres St

    2. Ka'deem Carey - RB - Arizona

    3a. A.J. Johnson - ILB - Tennessee

    3b. Tre Boston - CB - UNC

    These guys are mock drafting us right to the Super Bowl...

    Carr won't last that long.

    Carr won't even make it to our 1a. pick.

    I'm awesome, and I fuck dolphins. Ghoolie 12/2/2012: I have absolutely no skills, training or pride

  • i like it too BUT as marko and TCPO said no way carr drops that far.

    also i question whether watkins is the best WR. only thing missing on that list is 3 OL.

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  • thenew23T thenew23

    Even better mock draft by Charlie Campbell on walterfootball.com ...

    1a. Sammy Watkins - WR - Clemson

    1b. Derek Carr - QB - Fres St

    2. Ka'deem Carey - RB - Arizona

    3a. A.J. Johnson - ILB - Tennessee

    3b. Tre Boston - CB - UNC

    These guys are mock drafting us right to the Super Bowl...

    @thenew23 said:

    Even better mock draft by Charlie Campbell on walterfootball.com ...

    1a. Sammy Watkins - WR - Clemson

    1b. Derek Carr - QB - Fres St

    2. Ka'deem Carey - RB - Arizona

    3a. A.J. Johnson - ILB - Tennessee

    3b. Tre Boston - CB - UNC

    These guys are mock drafting us right to the Super Bowl...

    Yea, it is sounding like to get Carr, he would have to be the 1A pick, not 1B.

    Unless, of course it is Mike Lombardi to whom Peter King referenced as being willing to take Bortles as a Top 5 pick.

  • Peter King seems to think the Browns would be willing to trade their 2nd first round pick to the skins for Cousins if they make him available.

  • Yeah, King loves Cousins. I watched him some yesterday... I'm not sure he'd beat out Hoyer. They're both in that "good but limited" category in my opinion, but maybe one or both prove me wrong.

    To get the top WR, 2nd QB, and top RB in the draft would be off the charts. But like others have said, Carr isn't likely to make it out of the top 10.

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