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That other team was the Raiders.....who were about equally as dirty as the Steelers. Sorry, but the Browns could not keep up with those two teams in terms of cheap shots. the Turkey Jones play is so renown because it was like the only time the Browns ever even came close to doing something the Steelers and Raiders did on a regular basis.
Tomato/Tomaato It's all one's perspective. Being a lifelong Steelers fan I never viewed the Steelers as dirty. Just a tough as nails team that tried to impose their will on the opposing team.
Lastly, I have watched every Steelers vs Browns games since the 70's and the Brown's took plenty of questionable shots on Steelers players throughout the years. I remember Lambert coming off of the Bench to go after a Browns player who drilled Bradshaw well out of bounds. I was there at Three Rivers for the playoff game in 94 when Keenan McArdell took a flying head shot to another level on Chad Brown after an interception that was well after the play.
Bottom line is that every team that plays a physical brand can be labeled as cheap, there is a fine line. Cheap shots in my book are going after a players legs well behind the play. Something that the Broncos taught their Olines for years.
pghbigkev said:
Tomato/Tomaato It's all one's perspective. Being a lifelong Steelers fan I never viewed the Steelers as dirty. Just a tough as nails team that tried to impose their will on the opposing team.
Well, your eyes are full of piss then. You just didn't want to see the dirt that they pulled.
Lastly, I have watched every Steelers vs Browns games since the 70's and the Brown's took plenty of questionable shots on Steelers players throughout the years. I remember Lambert coming off of the Bench to go after a Browns player who drilled Bradshaw well out of bounds.
Hello, dumbass.....it was Lambert who laid cheap shots on Brian Sipe on at least 2 occasions. If Lambert came off the bench to go after someone it is because he liked to fight, pure and simple. Like I said, your brain is full of yellow urine if you can't remember those facts..
I was there at Three Rivers for the playoff game in 94 when Keenan McArdell took a flying head shot to another level on Chud Brown after an interception that was well after the play.
And how many dozens of times had Hines Ward done exactly that?
Bottom line is that every team that plays a physical brand can be labeled as cheap, there is a fine line. Cheap shots in my book are going after a players legs well behind the play. Something that the Broncos taught their Olines for years.
Well, maybe the Steelers were simply more overt with their cheap shots.
Let's just put it this way: For like 30 of the last 40 years the Steelers have had a player carrying the mantle "Dirtiest Player" in the league. Hell, for a few years they had a few of their players vying against each other for that title.....like Ward vs. Harrison
Sorry....but we don't need whiny babies like you simply because occasionally what goes around comes around.
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If Turkey Jones was playing for the Browns today he would be their best defensive player. All the more amazing because must be 70 years old by now.
Hardee har har. I think it was Ted Williams who first used that line when asked if he could hit .400 against "today's pitchers".
Sorry Gipper. Not up to the standards of my Milledgeville joke, I know.Hardee har har. I think it was Ted Williams who first used that line when asked if he could hit .400 against "today's pitchers".
I was looking at the NFL penalty site, where they show who got caught for what and who benefitted from opponents infractions. It varies a lot by team. NE seems to have a lot called against opponents and gets a lot of yardage that way. Pittsburgh was not at the top in anything except for getting called for cut blocking. Now that is a stupid penalty, officials are right there and can't miss it because it is obvious. I think it is indicative of overmatched inexperienced o-linemen that Pittsburgh has had to bring in.
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pghbigkev said:
Tomato/Tomaato It's all one's perspective. Being a lifelong Steelers fan I never viewed the Steelers as dirty. Just a tough as nails team that tried to impose their will on the opposing team.
Well, your eyes are full of piss then. You just didn't want to see the dirt that they pulled.
Lastly, I have watched every Steelers vs Browns games since the 70's and the Brown's took plenty of questionable shots on Steelers players throughout the years. I remember Lambert coming off of the Bench to go after a Browns player who drilled Bradshaw well out of bounds.
Hello, dumbass.....it was Lambert who laid cheap shots on Brian Sipe on at least 2 occasions. If Lambert came off the bench to go after someone it is because he liked to fight, pure and simple. Like I said, your brain is full of yellow urine if you can't remember those facts..
I was there at Three Rivers for the playoff game in 94 when Keenan McArdell took a flying head shot to another level on Chud Brown after an interception that was well after the play.
And how many dozens of times had Hines Ward done exactly that?
Bottom line is that every team that plays a physical brand can be labeled as cheap, there is a fine line. Cheap shots in my book are going after a players legs well behind the play. Something that the Broncos taught their Olines for years.
Well, maybe the Steelers were simply more overt with their cheap shots.
Let's just put it this way: For like 30 of the last 40 years the Steelers have had a player carrying the mantle "Dirtiest Player" in the league. Hell, for a few years they had a few of their players vying against each other for that title.....like Ward vs. Harrison
Sorry....but we don't need whiny babies like you simply because occasionally what goes around comes around.
Wow, what an uniformed post.
First, Lambert had one hit out of bounds on Sipe, the other that you are referring to was done by Keith Gary.
Second, when referring to Hines Ward, none of these hits were late, penalized or dirty,Just blocks made by the best blocking WR ever. Unlike Keenan's hit which came well after the play. And it was funny that after he took his cheap shot he actually ran off the field to avoid Greg Lloyd who wanted to kill him. Lloyd waited two more years when Keenan was in Jacksonville to get his retribution. That's how the Steelers roll. Hines was a warrior, the Browns would consider themselves lucky ever to have a competitor like him wear your stinky colors.
Lastly, as far as crying. The Browns fan base was the biggest group of whiners I have ever seen that glorious day back in 2010 when James Harrison Knocked out your entire football team. And it actually peaked into full panty complainers when in Harrison KTFO your QB from Texas.
The above points are facts and not up for argument.
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Forget it, squeeler fans. It goes way back, this history of winning, if necessary, with cheap,
violent shots.
Like taking the Cincy qb out, early, in an important game.
All the nonsense rationalizations won't change the dirty, cheapshot steeler history.
Comes with the steriod use, perhaps...
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Wow, what an uniformed post.
First, Lambert had one hit out of bounds on Sipe, the other that you are referring to was done by Keith Gary.
Second, when referring to Hines Ward, none of these hits were late, penalized or dirty,Just blocks made by the best blocking WR ever. Unlike Keenan's hit which came well after the play. And it was funny that after he took his cheap shot he actually ran off the field to avoid Greg Lloyd who wanted to kill him. Lloyd waited two more years when Keenan was in Jacksonville to get his retribution. That's how the Steelers roll. Hines was a warrior, the Browns would consider themselves lucky ever to have a competitor like him wear your stinky colors.
Lastly, as far as crying. The Browns fan base was the biggest group of whiners I have ever seen that glorious day back in 2010 when James Harrison Knocked out your entire football team. And it actually peaked into full panty complainers when in Harrison KTFO your QB from Texas.
The above points are facts and not up for argument.
pghbigkev said:
Wow, what an uniformed post.
Wow what an uninformed and biased pos you are.
First, Lambert had one hit out of bounds on Sipe, the other that you are referring to was done by Keith Gary.
There were probably others by Lambert that you don't remember....but thank you for pointing out that that Steeler team had more dirty players on it than just the ones I recall.
Second, when referring to Hines Ward, none of these hits were late, penalized or dirty,Just blocks made by the best blocking WR ever. Unlike Keenan's hit which came well after the play. And it was funny that after he took his cheap shot he actually ran off the field to avoid Greg Lloyd who wanted to kill him. Lloyd waited two more years when Keenan was in Jacksonville to get his retribution. That's how the Steelers roll. Hines was a warrior, the Browns would consider themselves lucky ever to have a competitor like him wear your stinky colors.
Hines Ward was voted by his peers....the other players in the NFL....not by me or any Browns fans, as being the dirtiest player in the NFL for a number of years running.
Sorry if you cannot handle that fact.
Lastly, as far as crying. The Browns fan base was the biggest group of whiners I have ever seen that glorious day back in 2010 when James Harrison Knocked out your entire football team. And it actually peaked into full panty complainers when in Harrison KTFO your QB from Texas.
I don't know about "whining"....but we simply pointed out that he was guilty of being dirty.....and the NFL agreed by fining and suspending him.
The above points are facts and not up for argument.
Yep....its a fact that his NFL peers voted Hines Ward the dirtiest player in the league.
And its a fact that the NFL fined and suspended Harrison for his dirty play.
Thanks for being willing to acknowledge established facts.
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http://www.ranker.com/list/dirtiest-nfl-players-of-all-time/pedro-cerrano
See the above article. It gives the 41 dirtiest players in the league's history. Here is how the teams break down:
Steelers 7 players
Raiders 5 players
Eagles/Cowboys/Titans 3 players
Ravens/Packers/Bears 2 players
49ers/Cards/Lions/Dolphins/Pats/Broncos/Chargers/Vikings/Chiefs
The only guy on the list that even played a bit with the Browns was Lyle Alzado, who played most of his career with the Broncos.
OK, so now tell us how the Steelers don't have a reputation for being dirty.
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http://www.ranker.com/list/dirtiest-nfl-players-of-all-time/pedro-cerrano
See the above article. It gives the 41 dirtiest players in the league's history. Here is how the teams break down:
Steelers 7 players
Raiders 5 players
Eagles/Cowboys/Titans 3 players
Ravens/Packers/Bears 2 players
49ers/Cards/Lions/Dolphins/Pats/Broncos/Chargers/Vikings/Chiefs
The only guy on the list that even played a bit with the Browns was Lyle Alzado, who played most of his career with the Broncos.
OK, so now tell us how the Steelers don't have a reputation for being dirty.
http://www.ranker.com/list/dirtiest-nfl-players-of-all-time/pedro-cerrano
See the above article. It gives the 41 dirtiest players in the league's history. Here is how the teams break down:
Steelers 7 players
Raiders 5 players
Eagles/Cowboys/Titans 3 players
Ravens/Packers/Bears 2 players
49ers/Cards/Lions/Dolphins/Pats/Broncos/Chargers/Vikings/Chiefs
The only guy on the list that even played a bit with the Browns was Lyle Alzado, who played most of his career with the Broncos.
OK, so now tell us how the Steelers don't have a reputation for being dirty.
Would you just stop! That "article" was created by a fictional movie character. And you are using this "article" as a base for facts?? LOL The "article" has 7,000 views. The "article" was most likely posted by a Browns fan, fictional movie character was a Cleveland Indian. Embarrassing Gipper, even for you.
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SO you are saying that since 29 players out of 300 claim Hines Ward is the dirtiest player that makes it a fact?? 29 out of 300 is a fact now?? Interesting
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http://www.ranker.com/list/dirtiest-nfl-players-of-all-time/pedro-cerrano
See the above article. It gives the 41 dirtiest players in the league's history. Here is how the teams break down:
Steelers 7 players
Raiders 5 players
Eagles/Cowboys/Titans 3 players
Ravens/Packers/Bears 2 players
49ers/Cards/Lions/Dolphins/Pats/Broncos/Chargers/Vikings/Chiefs
The only guy on the list that even played a bit with the Browns was Lyle Alzado, who played most of his career with the Broncos.
OK, so now tell us how the Steelers don't have a reputation for being dirty.
Would you just stop! That "article" was created by a fictional movie character. And you are using this "article" as a base for facts?? LOL The "article" has 7,000 views. The "article" was most likely posted by a Browns fan, fictional movie character was a Cleveland Indian. Embarrassing Gipper, even for you.
pghbigkev said:
Would you just stop! That "article" was created by a fictional movie character. And you are using this "article" as a base for facts?? LOL The "article" has 7,000 views. The "article" was most likely posted by a Browns fan, fictional movie character was a Cleveland Indian. Embarrassing Gipper, even for you.
The article was put together by this "Ranker.com" sight. Notice it contains list involving sports, TV, Films, travel, business etc. etc.
And has dozens of lists it publishes underneath each of these categories.
Embarassing for you that you couldn't actually read what you were seeing. Typical....but embarassing.
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SO you are saying that since 29 players out of 300 claim Hines Ward is the dirtiest player that makes it a fact?? 29 out of 300 is a fact now?? Interesting
pghbigkev said:
SO you are saying that since 29 players out of 300 claim Hines Ward is the dirtiest player that makes it a fact?? 29 out of 300 is a fact now?? Interesting
I am not saying anything. I am simply reporting what his peers in the game said about him.
If you had an issue with this, you should take it up with the players in the NFL.
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Funny, but just so you know, people from Western Pennsylvania have a much better reputation than people from OHIO.
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Funny, but just so you know, people from Western Pennsylvania have a much better reputation than people from OHIO.
pghbigkev said:
Funny, but just so you know, people from Western Pennsylvania have a much better reputation than people from OHIO.
OSU fans are known for being dicks. I'm an OSU fan and I agree that OSU fans are for the most part dicks.
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Funny, but just so you know, people from Western Pennsylvania have a much better reputation than people from OHIO.
pghbigkev said:
Funny, but just so you know, people from Western Pennsylvania have a much better reputation than people from OHIO.
Well, the point of that image Kosar for Prez posted is that it was directed towards Steelers fans who are not from Western PA. I have extended family that is from Ohio, are Steelers/OSU fans, and moved to Atlanta. I'm sure people just LOVE them down there too. During a time when I occasionally looked at Facebook, they would make obnoxious posts, namely about Steelers and their political opinions. Eventually I had to put them on the ignore list as my annoyance level hit its limit with them.
To anyone reading this who is from Georgia: I apologize that they are now your problem.
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http://www.ranker.com/list/dirtiest-nfl-players-of-all-time/pedro-cerrano
See the above article. It gives the 41 dirtiest players in the league's history. Here is how the teams break down:
Steelers 7 players
Raiders 5 players
Eagles/Cowboys/Titans 3 players
Ravens/Packers/Bears 2 players
49ers/Cards/Lions/Dolphins/Pats/Broncos/Chargers/Vikings/Chiefs
The only guy on the list that even played a bit with the Browns was Lyle Alzado, who played most of his career with the Broncos.
OK, so now tell us how the Steelers don't have a reputation for being dirty.
Would you just stop! That "article" was created by a fictional movie character. And you are using this "article" as a base for facts?? LOL The "article" has 7,000 views. The "article" was most likely posted by a Browns fan, fictional movie character was a Cleveland Indian. Embarrassing Gipper, even for you.
pghbigkev said:
Would you just stop! That "article" was created by a fictional movie character. And you are using this "article" as a base for facts?? LOL The "article" has 7,000 views. The "article" was most likely posted by a Browns fan, fictional movie character was a Cleveland Indian. Embarrassing Gipper, even for you.
I can tell you one thing for a fact- & those articles jogged my memory- no doubt Ward cheap shotted that Bengal player and broke his jaw. If you don't like the current rules on a "defenseless player" you can blame it all on Whines Hard for never missing a chance to lay out a player who wasn't looking.
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