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  • Do you suppose it'd be as much outrage if someone were burning Bibles or American flags? Usually in those situations I hear folks cleaning it's our right to protest. Whether or not you are one of them I don't know. What I do know is that I ended by post talking about the people who bitch about the call to prayer in Dearborn Michigan.

    If you haven't been to Dearborn you are not only missing out on a very cool city but probably the largest percentage of Muslims in any American town its size. And there were Christians bitching about the call to prayer. Just some people who wanted to be assholes.

    I would say that's a similar situation to wanting to force people to take down nativity scenes.

    The powers that be in US government, as you may recall, went positively ballistic over the guys burning the Koran.

    Oddly enough it seemed that was the same demographic that supported the taxpayer funded artwork of Jesus in a bottle of piss.

    Does that fit your definition of irony?

    And we are most certainly on the same page as to what really makes people fight with each other. Here in the US we have everything we need so we find smaller things to fight about. Poverty in Detroit is hardly poverty on the African continent....

    WSS

  • How would you like this in Cleveland? Or LA? Or any city? I sure the hell wouldn't.

  • Do you suppose it'd be as much outrage if someone were burning Bibles or American flags? Usually in those situations I hear folks cleaning it's our right to protest. Whether or not you are one of them I don't know. What I do know is that I ended by post talking about the people who bitch about the call to prayer in Dearborn Michigan.

    If you haven't been to Dearborn you are not only missing out on a very cool city but probably the largest percentage of Muslims in any American town its size. And there were Christians bitching about the call to prayer. Just some people who wanted to be assholes.

    I would say that's a similar situation to wanting to force people to take down nativity scenes.

    The powers that be in US government, as you may recall, went positively ballistic over the guys burning the Koran.

    Oddly enough it seemed that was the same demographic that supported the taxpayer funded artwork of Jesus in a bottle of piss.

    Does that fit your definition of irony?

    And we are most certainly on the same page as to what really makes people fight with each other. Here in the US we have everything we need so we find smaller things to fight about. Poverty in Detroit is hardly poverty on the African continent....

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    Do you suppose it'd be as much outrage if someone were burning Bibles or American flags? Usually in those situations I hear folks cleaning it's our right to protest. Whether or not you are one of them I don't know. What I do know is that I ended by post talking about the people who bitch about the call to prayer in Dearborn Michigan.

    If you haven't been to Dearborn you are not only missing out on a very cool city but probably the largest percentage of Muslims in any American town its size. And there were Christians bitching about the call to prayer. Just some people who wanted to be assholes.

    I would say that's a similar situation to wanting to force people to take down nativity scenes.

    The powers that be in US government, as you may recall, went positively ballistic over the guys burning the Koran.

    Oddly enough it seemed that was the same demographic that supported the taxpayer funded artwork of Jesus in a bottle of piss.

    Does that fit your definition of irony?

    And we are most certainly on the same page as to what really makes people fight with each other. Here in the US we have everything we need so we find smaller things to fight about. Poverty in Detroit is hardly poverty on the African continent....

    WSS

    I've been to Dearborn, yes, and sorry I missed what you said about call to prayer there, but I never figured you would be hypocritical about it, it's others that are. And I never complained about the way government handles Quran burning, I'm complaining that some of the people (not you) who complain that Christianity is being attacked are attacking other religions.

    I don't know who funded the Jesus in the bottle of piss thing, but regardless it is wrong. Never heard of it until you mentioned it.

    And no, I don't support Bible burning, that would be hypocritical. Same with flag burning. People who think they have it bad hear should try living in Egypt, where resources are much scarcer. Some of the things we protest here are luxury protests elsewhere.

  • How would you like this in Cleveland? Or LA? Or any city? I sure the hell wouldn't.

    @diehardbrownsfan said:

    How would you like this in Cleveland? Or LA? Or any city? I sure the hell wouldn't.

    The only reason that would happen is if France is denying them houses of worship or the ability to rent large spaces for the larger prayer gatherings. This wouldn't happen in the USA because it isn't made necessary. Here Muslims rent function halls and don't have a hard time doing it. The Muslim demographic here is wealthier than in France and doesn't have to deal with as much institutional bigotry.
  • @mld-woody said:

    So she has to make a case for her beliefs. Good. People need to think for themselves and defend their beliefs. Not just "my parents did, and their parents did, so i do"

    I agree people should question their beliefs, but that includes everyone, not just religious people. They should also question their lack of tolerance, what they think they know about other religions and cultures, and how they treat each other.

    To say she HAS to make a case for her beliefs isn't true, though. The constitution protects everyones right to believe and doesn't say "but only if you make a case for your beliefs."

    I do find it funny that the members of the most populous religion feel persecuted, though. They need to look in the mirror and consider the acts of persecution some who claim to be Christian have committed in the past few decades. These protests against Christmas trees pale in comparison to thousands killed or expelled in Bosnia.

    And congrats on the new job Woody.

    @osiris said:

    And congrats on the new job Woody.

    Thanks

  • http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piss_Christ

    I am really surprised you never heard of this.

    WSS

  • That's a cool looking photo. Dude was dehydrated though

  • Yeah we get it. Religious people tend to be stupid and easily riled up. Muslims just happen to be at the top of the list for religious folks who like to get wound up and act like dickheads.

  • Don't ever see any Christians doing this. Only Muslims.

  • Don't ever see any Christians doing this. Only Muslims.

    @diehardbrownsfan said:

    Don't ever see any Christians doing this. Only Muslims.

    I said that Muslims take the crown for being butthurt in the realm of religious people. Christians just tend to go on the internet and cry about being persecuted. Still butthurt. Just nothing is getting burned.

  • http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piss_Christ

    I am really surprised you never heard of this.

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piss_Christ

    I am really surprised you never heard of this.

    WSS

    Wow and it won an Award sponsored by the national endowment for the arts? That seems messed up.

    I'm not Christian so I wouldn't really be tuned in to it, that's why I never heard of it. Plus in 1987 i was a wee lad.