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  • The GipperT The Gipper

    Zombo said:

    Baker is worth an extended look. If Oby is under contract then bring him back and let him compete as a tailback, not a fullback, if he's not under contract, let him go.

    Dion Lewis is a role plyer, not an every down back, so we need to find starters at both FB and RB and Lewis will have a role and Baker and maybe Oby can compete for roster spots.

    Zombo

    These assholes don't want anything to do with a fullback, apparently. Yesterday on one drive the Browns had like 8 chances to run the ball in from inside the 5 or 10....and had to settle for a FG. And not on one single play did they put a fullback in the game.

    Hell, OK, so they don't have a real "fullback" on the team. Put freeking Billy Winn in there with his 320 pounds to open a hole.

    It apparently never crossed their mind to do so.

    @the-gipper said:

    These assholes don't want anything to do with a fullback, apparently. Yesterday on one drive the Browns had like 8 chances to run the ball in from inside the 5 or 10....and had to settle for a FG. And not on one single play did they put a fullback in the game.

    Hell, OK, so they don't have a real "fullback" on the team. Put freeking Billy Winn in there with his 320 pounds to open a hole.

    It apparently never crossed their mind to do so.

    I didn't get why they didn't at least attempt a 'winn' package, he's done it before - I guess they weren't impressed with his previous attempts.

  • Fuck Baker, screw Fozzy. Obie can be third in the depth charts.

    Dion Lewis will make a great change of pace and up tempo back.

    The Browns need a bruiser. A guy to win at the point of attack.

    "We are Americans. We don't quit doing something because it's wrong. We just keep doing the wrong thing till it turns out right." Browns maybe the most American Football team ever.
  • cdl15C cdl15

    Fuck Baker, screw Fozzy. Obie can be third in the depth charts.

    Dion Lewis will make a great change of pace and up tempo back.

    The Browns need a bruiser. A guy to win at the point of attack.

     

    @cdl15 said:

    The Browns need a bruiser. A guy to win at the point of attack.

     

    After watching Lacy and Bell play yesterday a power back is sounding pretty good.

    "All Truth Passes Through Three stages. First, It Is Ridiculed, Second It Is Violently Opposed, And Third, It Is Accepted As Self-Evident" ~Arthur Schopenhauer
  • BadNewsBrownsB BadNewsBrowns

     

    @cdl15 said:

    The Browns need a bruiser. A guy to win at the point of attack.

     

    After watching Lacy and Bell play yesterday a power back is sounding pretty good.

    @badnewsbrowns said:

      

    After watching Lacy and Bell play yesterday a power back is sounding pretty good.

    "We are Americans. We don't quit doing something because it's wrong. We just keep doing the wrong thing till it turns out right." Browns maybe the most American Football team ever.

  • Yeah right fat chance..maybe if he played for "the U" when's the last time the Browns drafted someone from the big ten or mac?

    The Browns already have the perfect blue print for success all they need to do is...the opposite.

    "All Truth Passes Through Three stages. First, It Is Ridiculed, Second It Is Violently Opposed, And Third, It Is Accepted As Self-Evident" ~Arthur Schopenhauer
  • BadNewsBrownsB BadNewsBrowns

    Yeah right fat chance..maybe if he played for "the U" when's the last time the Browns drafted someone from the big ten or mac?

    The Browns already have the perfect blue print for success all they need to do is...the opposite.

    @badnewsbrowns said:

    Yeah right fat chance..maybe if he played for "the U" when's the last time the Browns drafted someone from the big ten or mac? The Browns already have the perfect blue print for success all they need to do is...the opposite.

    To answer your question:

    Big Ten: Eric Hagg, Nebraska 7th round DB 2011

    (prior to that: Brian Robiskie)

    MAC: Charlie Frye QB Akron 3rd round 2005.

    Note this trivia though:

    In 2011 and 2012 the NFL drafted more defensive players in rounds 1 and 2 out of the Big Ten than they did out of the SEC.

    (Just thought I would show TCPO what he would learn if he paid attention to the trivia. 😎

  • If Oby is our FB next year I will contemplate not watching football anymore.

  • Hyde would be my choice, any idea where he is projected? I have not begun my mock draft season yet.

  • I need to see some 40 times from Hyde before I make a judgement. Is he Michael Bush or Steven Jackson?

  • It isn't so much who the rb's are. Football is more complex than that. The qb situation lends itself to

    focus on stopping the run, in several ways. And the wr's, types of, adds to that.

    Without a very explosive, quick getting open wr, defenses know to look for those mostly worthless outlet passes

    Campbell throws automatically.

    Double cover Gordon, work to stop Cameron, and the Browns are pretty much screwed over, with little other options, pun intended, with a qb that doesn't get it.

    If defenses see that the qb is slow to see the field, make his reads, without that explosive wr, they just shut down

    the los, and that's that, as long as the double coverage on Gordon worked.

    Especially when Cameron is out. With Hoyer and Cameron in there, this offense is only desperately lacking

    an explosive wr, and qb. A star rb would be great. But adding only one piece of the puzzle doesn't compete it.

    I remember the Browns defense dumping Earl Campbell and Franco Harris on their faces into the turf, behind

    the los. When that happens, it's beating the blocking, and that isn't because the offensive line all of a sudden

    sucks. It's because the defensive set matched the play called, and all the parts of the defense worked.

    That's just how I watch football, that's all.

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