"Mangini tears down Browns History" - Paints over Hall of Fame mural
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I'm not too keen on changing the uniforms, because I've always really liked the uniforms--I can't think of anything I'd like to see on the helmets, I detest the orange pants, and we all remember the brown pants atrocity in the preseason. So what changes could be made?
I'm on record saying that I liked the orange jerseys when they wore them, but only as a "once a year" type thing. I dunno...I would like to see the white facemasks come back, but I don't think that would be considered something that the kids like.
Dennis
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That mural was probably loaded with staph bugs. Does Lysol come in eggshell white?
After going six games without scoring an offensive touchdown, I wanted to nuke the entire facility. A new coat of paint is a good comprimise.
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I'm sure this is old news around here and has been discussed ad nauseum - but I'm interested in knowing how the news that Mangini's painted over the team's Hall of Fame mural - going out of his way to "erase" the ghosts of Browns greatness past like Jim Brown, Otto Graham, Paul Brown etc...
http://weblogs.newsday.com/sports/football...rowns_hist.html
I suppose the message to today's players is don't rest on decades old laurels of guys who failed to win a Super Bowl.
So is this a "Mangenius" moment or "Mangidiot" from the perspective of the fans? Is it time for the fans and players to put the past out of their minds, and no longer try to live up (or down) to the accomplishments of the past? Adopt an expansion team attitude perhaps? A clean slate?
It's different - I'll give him that - and could backfire the same way the whole "Keep Chopping" idea backfired on Jack Del Rio (i.e. good in theory - stupid in practice). Though he's of course taking knocks for an inconsistent message given his remarks at his initial press conference talking about the storied past of the franchise etc...
Considering that the players you listed played in a mostly NON-SUPER BOWL era, and did indeed win championships, your "I suppose the message to today's players is don't rest on decades old laurels of guys who failed to win a Super Bowl." line is extremely ignorant. But what can one expect of a fan that supports his cheating coach and has no problem with said cheating.
Considering that the players you listed played in a mostly NON-SUPER BOWL era, and did indeed win championships, your "I suppose the message to today's players is don't rest on decades old laurels of guys who failed to win a Super Bowl." line is extremely ignorant. But what can one expect of a fan that supports his cheating coach and has no problem with said cheating.
Not my message. Your team's coach's message.
What message do you think he's trying to send to the players?
Zombo
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Considering that the players you listed played in a mostly NON-SUPER BOWL era, and did indeed win championships, your "I suppose the message to today's players is don't rest on decades old laurels of guys who failed to win a Super Bowl." line is extremely ignorant. But what can one expect of a fan that supports his cheating coach and has no problem with said cheating.
Not my message. Your team's coach's message.
What message do you think he's trying to send to the players?
Zombo
Not my message. Your team's coach's message.
What message do you think he's trying to send to the players?
Zombo
Actually, YOU were the one that typed those idiotic words, not the coach. Its YOU that doesn't realize the players YOU listed didn't play in the Super Bowl era. Kind of hard to fail getting to a Super Bowl when there wasn't even one to fail getting to, eh? Go back to Pats-land and cry with Bellicheat about how there was no cheating, it was only the NFL and Mangini out to get you.
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He is probably taking it down because its depressing to the players. The players have to see how long it was ago hall of fame players played for this team and how long it was ago we were successful. Not to mention it may intimidate some
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ME I DEMAND RESULTS AND WHEN MANGINI PROVIDES ANY RESULTS THEN I MAY LISTEN until then he is just a cheap suit pissing on everything that was the storied franchise
Oh boy, still? You're still going with the caps lock and the scolding tone. I mean, that's kinda cool. It screams TAKE NOTE OF ME, I HAVE EXPERIENCED MORE THAN MOST PEOPLE in a weird, don't stare at him sort of way. But...you're no longer exactly in the "I demand" arena. You are, but not in the way you comprehend. You're now in the "I demand a spoon with my apple sauce" - followed by a heavy cough - arena. Like that. See?
The one thing you will always be is a treasure. Don't you dare forget that.
Beanpot
Oh boy, still? You're still going with the caps lock and the scolding tone. I mean, that's kinda cool. It screams TAKE NOTE OF ME, I HAVE EXPERIENCED MORE THAN MOST PEOPLE in a weird, don't stare at him sort of way. But...you're no longer exactly in the "I demand" arena. You are, but not in the way you comprehend. You're now in the "I demand a spoon with my apple sauce" - followed by a heavy cough - arena. Like that. See?
The one thing you will always be is a treasure. Don't you dare forget that.
Beanpot
This is a great post!!!
Classic stuff Bean. I'm still laughing.
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Not my message. Your team's coach's message.
What message do you think he's trying to send to the players?
Zombo
Actually, YOU were the one that typed those idiotic words, not the coach. Its YOU that doesn't realize the players YOU listed didn't play in the Super Bowl era. Kind of hard to fail getting to a Super Bowl when there wasn't even one to fail getting to, eh? Go back to Pats-land and cry with Bellicheat about how there was no cheating, it was only the NFL and Mangini out to get you.
Actually, YOU were the one that typed those idiotic words, not the coach. Its YOU that doesn't realize the players YOU listed didn't play in the Super Bowl era. Kind of hard to fail getting to a Super Bowl when there wasn't even one to fail getting to, eh? Go back to Pats-land and cry with Bellicheat about how there was no cheating, it was only the NFL and Mangini out to get you.
Did I touch a nerve?
Zombo
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Can Mangini paint over the record books for the last ten years so it looks like they never happened ?
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Can Mangini paint over the record books for the last ten years so it looks like they never happened ?
Can Mangini paint over the record books for the last ten years so it looks like they never happened ?
That would be nice. These last 10 years have been like a bad LSD trip that just won't stop.
Or better yet, can we get him to paint out all the Steeler Roid/ HGH stuff so we don't have to read another damn topic about it?
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Actually, YOU were the one that typed those idiotic words, not the coach. Its YOU that doesn't realize the players YOU listed didn't play in the Super Bowl era. Kind of hard to fail getting to a Super Bowl when there wasn't even one to fail getting to, eh? Go back to Pats-land and cry with Bellicheat about how there was no cheating, it was only the NFL and Mangini out to get you.
Did I touch a nerve?
Zombo
Did I touch a nerve?
Zombo
Nope, I don't get my nerves touched by internet trolls. I just enjoy pointing out the stupidity in their statements, and yours ranks up there pretty high on the stupidity level!
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Joeanne Sixer may be that dude I saw last year getting a tattoo of a Patriot on his head. Of course, this was before they got beat in the Super Bowl and lost Brady. He may be a Stiller fan now that the Pats didn't make the playoffs.
Must suck to have that drunken tattoo of a team he doesn't even like anymore.
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In related news, Pioli seems to be acting the tool already.
http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/...fers_plent.html
That Belichick tree: Scott Pioli has instituted the "media are our enemy" attitude in Kansas City.
When a Kansas City Star reporter traveled to Pioli's hometown to research a feature story on the new Chiefs GM, Pioli called former teammates, classmates, neighbors and others and ordered them to not speak with the Star's reporter.
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I agree with Rich... No I am Not a Browns fan . But guys you have a Rich History. Just because the Best Chapters are 40 yrs. Old Doesn't mean its Not Important. If You ask me personally , to Identify the BEST Player ever... I too will say Jim Brown , a Totally Dominant Force. A Beast. A leader. Geez ...He is Still a Leader. Paul Brown also a Football Icon !! I understand marking a NEW Era. But why turn away for recognition of Excellence. Do you think Pittsburgh will EVER get rid of all that Stuff Down under the Stands ? NO ! Its awesome and Exciting. History is Important ! Legacy is inspiring. Bad move by Mangini.
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that can be repainted, not that big of a deal, be different if they were say burning stuff irreplaceable.
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I understand the reason.....if it is the reason.
I might have had it painted over as well.
IMO we seem to be stuck in the past. At some point we have to look forward, and as far as I am concerned it might as well be right now.
Tradition is great and deserves it's place, but I don't think it needs to be the mural of the organization.
Learn from the past, look forward to the future.
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I find Mangini's stunt arrogant idiocy............the history the glory can never be forgotten
PUT A FREAKING WINNER UP TO AND NEW LEGACY FOR PEOPLE TO REMEMBER........
this strategy is that of a loser
oops that is what his record as a head coach is
ME I DEMAND RESULTS AND WHEN MANGINI PROVIDES ANY RESULTS THEN I MAY LISTEN until then he is just a cheap suit pissing on everything that was the storied franchise
funk him if he cannot be smarter than this
I find Mangini's stunt arrogant idiocy............the history the glory can never be forgotten
PUT A FREAKING WINNER UP TO AND NEW LEGACY FOR PEOPLE TO REMEMBER........
this strategy is that of a loser
oops that is what his record as a head coach is
ME I DEMAND RESULTS AND WHEN MANGINI PROVIDES ANY RESULTS THEN I MAY LISTEN until then he is just a cheap suit pissing on everything that was the storied franchise
funk him if he cannot be smarter than this
The mural sure did wonders for the team the last decade.
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