"Mangini tears down Browns History" - Paints over Hall of Fame mural
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Can Mangini paint over the record books for the last ten years so it looks like they never happened ?
Can Mangini paint over the record books for the last ten years so it looks like they never happened ?
That would be nice. These last 10 years have been like a bad LSD trip that just won't stop.
Or better yet, can we get him to paint out all the Steeler Roid/ HGH stuff so we don't have to read another damn topic about it?
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Actually, YOU were the one that typed those idiotic words, not the coach. Its YOU that doesn't realize the players YOU listed didn't play in the Super Bowl era. Kind of hard to fail getting to a Super Bowl when there wasn't even one to fail getting to, eh? Go back to Pats-land and cry with Bellicheat about how there was no cheating, it was only the NFL and Mangini out to get you.
Did I touch a nerve?
Zombo
Did I touch a nerve?
Zombo
Nope, I don't get my nerves touched by internet trolls. I just enjoy pointing out the stupidity in their statements, and yours ranks up there pretty high on the stupidity level!
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Joeanne Sixer may be that dude I saw last year getting a tattoo of a Patriot on his head. Of course, this was before they got beat in the Super Bowl and lost Brady. He may be a Stiller fan now that the Pats didn't make the playoffs.
Must suck to have that drunken tattoo of a team he doesn't even like anymore.
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In related news, Pioli seems to be acting the tool already.
http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/...fers_plent.html
That Belichick tree: Scott Pioli has instituted the "media are our enemy" attitude in Kansas City.
When a Kansas City Star reporter traveled to Pioli's hometown to research a feature story on the new Chiefs GM, Pioli called former teammates, classmates, neighbors and others and ordered them to not speak with the Star's reporter.
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I agree with Rich... No I am Not a Browns fan . But guys you have a Rich History. Just because the Best Chapters are 40 yrs. Old Doesn't mean its Not Important. If You ask me personally , to Identify the BEST Player ever... I too will say Jim Brown , a Totally Dominant Force. A Beast. A leader. Geez ...He is Still a Leader. Paul Brown also a Football Icon !! I understand marking a NEW Era. But why turn away for recognition of Excellence. Do you think Pittsburgh will EVER get rid of all that Stuff Down under the Stands ? NO ! Its awesome and Exciting. History is Important ! Legacy is inspiring. Bad move by Mangini.
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that can be repainted, not that big of a deal, be different if they were say burning stuff irreplaceable.
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I understand the reason.....if it is the reason.
I might have had it painted over as well.
IMO we seem to be stuck in the past. At some point we have to look forward, and as far as I am concerned it might as well be right now.
Tradition is great and deserves it's place, but I don't think it needs to be the mural of the organization.
Learn from the past, look forward to the future.
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I find Mangini's stunt arrogant idiocy............the history the glory can never be forgotten
PUT A FREAKING WINNER UP TO AND NEW LEGACY FOR PEOPLE TO REMEMBER........
this strategy is that of a loser
oops that is what his record as a head coach is
ME I DEMAND RESULTS AND WHEN MANGINI PROVIDES ANY RESULTS THEN I MAY LISTEN until then he is just a cheap suit pissing on everything that was the storied franchise
funk him if he cannot be smarter than this
I find Mangini's stunt arrogant idiocy............the history the glory can never be forgotten
PUT A FREAKING WINNER UP TO AND NEW LEGACY FOR PEOPLE TO REMEMBER........
this strategy is that of a loser
oops that is what his record as a head coach is
ME I DEMAND RESULTS AND WHEN MANGINI PROVIDES ANY RESULTS THEN I MAY LISTEN until then he is just a cheap suit pissing on everything that was the storied franchise
funk him if he cannot be smarter than this
The mural sure did wonders for the team the last decade.
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I find Mangini's stunt arrogant idiocy............the history the glory can never be forgotten
PUT A FREAKING WINNER UP TO AND NEW LEGACY FOR PEOPLE TO REMEMBER........
this strategy is that of a loser
oops that is what his record as a head coach is
ME I DEMAND RESULTS AND WHEN MANGINI PROVIDES ANY RESULTS THEN I MAY LISTEN until then he is just a cheap suit pissing on everything that was the storied franchise
funk him if he cannot be smarter than this
The mural sure did wonders for the team the last decade.
The mural sure did wonders for the team the last decade.
Really.
Honor the past in the stadium, in the lockerroom.
In the main office, the look should be towards the future.
I think this is the message Mangini is sending.
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I find Mangini's stunt arrogant idiocy............the history the glory can never be forgotten
PUT A FREAKING WINNER UP TO AND NEW LEGACY FOR PEOPLE TO REMEMBER........
this strategy is that of a loser
oops that is what his record as a head coach is
ME I DEMAND RESULTS AND WHEN MANGINI PROVIDES ANY RESULTS THEN I MAY LISTEN until then he is just a cheap suit pissing on everything that was the storied franchise
funk him if he cannot be smarter than this
The mural sure did wonders for the team the last decade.
The mural sure did wonders for the team the last decade.
Or four.....
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Inspecta...that Freeman sig is freakin hysterical!
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I'm not too keen on changing the uniforms, because I've always really liked the uniforms--I can't think of anything I'd like to see on the helmets, I detest the orange pants, and we all remember the brown pants atrocity in the preseason. So what changes could be made?
I'm on record saying that I liked the orange jerseys when they wore them, but only as a "once a year" type thing. I dunno...I would like to see the white facemasks come back, but I don't think that would be considered something that the kids like.
Dennis
I'm not too keen on changing the uniforms, because I've always really liked the uniforms--I can't think of anything I'd like to see on the helmets, I detest the orange pants, and we all remember the brown pants atrocity in the preseason. So what changes could be made?
I'm on record saying that I liked the orange jerseys when they wore them, but only as a "once a year" type thing. I dunno...I would like to see the white facemasks come back, but I don't think that would be considered something that the kids like.
Dennis
Dennis - I'm not going to use this as another opportunity for me to soapbox WHY I think a uniform change is needed, but I will say that you can change things and give them a look that is more geared toward 2009 without doing much. For one, there are waaaay too many stripes on the uni's. The reason is originally, when the Browns were founded, the jersey sleeves were long. It would look silly to have one stripe on a long-sleeve. Thus the reason there are close to 100 stripes (or so it seems) on the Browns sleeves. If you want stripes, put them on like the colts (Syracuse or Va Tech has this pattern). It's an old-school look that looks good. We have an old-school look that obviously doesn't. That's why we're consistently rated as having one of the worst uniforms in sports when they take polls.
When everyone hears uniform change, they cringe and think of the Bills or Bengals. But no much change needs to happen to make them look good. Look at a team steeped in tradition like USC. They've changed uniforms several times, but does it ever effect their legacy? Hell no. If anything, they're newer uniforms look more old-school cool than the crap they wore in the 90's.
Change can be good, if it's good change.
All right, I'll stop before I get lambasted.........
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I'm not too keen on changing the uniforms, because I've always really liked the uniforms--I can't think of anything I'd like to see on the helmets, I detest the orange pants, and we all remember the brown pants atrocity in the preseason. So what changes could be made?
I'm on record saying that I liked the orange jerseys when they wore them, but only as a "once a year" type thing. I dunno...I would like to see the white facemasks come back, but I don't think that would be considered something that the kids like.
Dennis
Dennis - I'm not going to use this as another opportunity for me to soapbox WHY I think a uniform change is needed, but I will say that you can change things and give them a look that is more geared toward 2009 without doing much. For one, there are waaaay too many stripes on the uni's. The reason is originally, when the Browns were founded, the jersey sleeves were long. It would look silly to have one stripe on a long-sleeve. Thus the reason there are close to 100 stripes (or so it seems) on the Browns sleeves. If you want stripes, put them on like the colts (Syracuse or Va Tech has this pattern). It's an old-school look that looks good. We have an old-school look that obviously doesn't. That's why we're consistently rated as having one of the worst uniforms in sports when they take polls.
When everyone hears uniform change, they cringe and think of the Bills or Bengals. But no much change needs to happen to make them look good. Look at a team steeped in tradition like USC. They've changed uniforms several times, but does it ever effect their legacy? Hell no. If anything, they're newer uniforms look more old-school cool than the crap they wore in the 90's.
Change can be good, if it's good change.
All right, I'll stop before I get lambasted.........
Dennis - I'm not going to use this as another opportunity for me to soapbox WHY I think a uniform change is needed, but I will say that you can change things and give them a look that is more geared toward 2009 without doing much. For one, there are waaaay too many stripes on the uni's. The reason is originally, when the Browns were founded, the jersey sleeves were long. It would look silly to have one stripe on a long-sleeve. Thus the reason there are close to 100 stripes (or so it seems) on the Browns sleeves. If you want stripes, put them on like the colts (Syracuse or Va Tech has this pattern). It's an old-school look that looks good. We have an old-school look that obviously doesn't. That's why we're consistently rated as having one of the worst uniforms in sports when they take polls.
When everyone hears uniform change, they cringe and think of the Bills or Bengals. But no much change needs to happen to make them look good. Look at a team steeped in tradition like USC. They've changed uniforms several times, but does it ever effect their legacy? Hell no. If anything, they're newer uniforms look more old-school cool than the crap they wore in the 90's.
Change can be good, if it's good change.
All right, I'll stop before I get lambasted.........
No the look your proposing is absolutely proposterouse...that would look ugly...get better players and the uni's dont matter so much...Decals on the Browns helmets just dont look good...The only change Id make is the face masks...make them white again....Other than that...leave the uni's be....
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Dennis - I'm not going to use this as another opportunity for me to soapbox WHY I think a uniform change is needed, but I will say that you can change things and give them a look that is more geared toward 2009 without doing much. For one, there are waaaay too many stripes on the uni's. The reason is originally, when the Browns were founded, the jersey sleeves were long. It would look silly to have one stripe on a long-sleeve. Thus the reason there are close to 100 stripes (or so it seems) on the Browns sleeves. If you want stripes, put them on like the colts (Syracuse or Va Tech has this pattern). It's an old-school look that looks good. We have an old-school look that obviously doesn't. That's why we're consistently rated as having one of the worst uniforms in sports when they take polls.
When everyone hears uniform change, they cringe and think of the Bills or Bengals. But no much change needs to happen to make them look good. Look at a team steeped in tradition like USC. They've changed uniforms several times, but does it ever effect their legacy? Hell no. If anything, they're newer uniforms look more old-school cool than the crap they wore in the 90's.
Change can be good, if it's good change.
All right, I'll stop before I get lambasted.........
No the look your proposing is absolutely proposterouse...that would look ugly...get better players and the uni's dont matter so much...Decals on the Browns helmets just dont look good...The only change Id make is the face masks...make them white again....Other than that...leave the uni's be....
No the look your proposing is absolutely proposterouse...that would look ugly...get better players and the uni's dont matter so much...Decals on the Browns helmets just dont look good...The only change Id make is the face masks...make them white again....Other than that...leave the uni's be....
First off, I didn't propose anything. I simply suggested some ideas. If you look at playgroundlegend's signature, you'll see Rashad Jennings and see how simple is better and still up to date. As far as syracuse & va tech, these were the uni's I was referring to, not the hideous ones.
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I'm sure this is old news around here and has been discussed ad nauseum - but I'm interested in knowing how the news that Mangini's painted over the team's Hall of Fame mural - going out of his way to "erase" the ghosts of Browns greatness past like Jim Brown, Otto Graham, Paul Brown etc...
http://weblogs.newsday.com/sports/football...rowns_hist.html
I suppose the message to today's players is don't rest on decades old laurels of guys who failed to win a Super Bowl.
So is this a "Mangenius" moment or "Mangidiot" from the perspective of the fans? Is it time for the fans and players to put the past out of their minds, and no longer try to live up (or down) to the accomplishments of the past? Adopt an expansion team attitude perhaps? A clean slate?
It's different - I'll give him that - and could backfire the same way the whole "Keep Chopping" idea backfired on Jack Del Rio (i.e. good in theory - stupid in practice). Though he's of course taking knocks for an inconsistent message given his remarks at his initial press conference talking about the storied past of the franchise etc...
I'm sure this is old news around here and has been discussed ad nauseum - but I'm interested in knowing how the news that Mangini's painted over the team's Hall of Fame mural - going out of his way to "erase" the ghosts of Browns greatness past like Jim Brown, Otto Graham, Paul Brown etc...
http://weblogs.newsday.com/sports/football...rowns_hist.html
I suppose the message to today's players is don't rest on decades old laurels of guys who failed to win a Super Bowl.
So is this a "Mangenius" moment or "Mangidiot" from the perspective of the fans? Is it time for the fans and players to put the past out of their minds, and no longer try to live up (or down) to the accomplishments of the past? Adopt an expansion team attitude perhaps? A clean slate?
It's different - I'll give him that - and could backfire the same way the whole "Keep Chopping" idea backfired on Jack Del Rio (i.e. good in theory - stupid in practice). Though he's of course taking knocks for an inconsistent message given his remarks at his initial press conference talking about the storied past of the franchise etc...
I think it is a bad move..Remind the current players at what "standard" they are being compared ..Those Players and coaches were the best of their time .What's wrong with the players of today knowing the excellent past history of the Team they play for?? In Pittsburgh ,their are 5 Super Bowl trophys .The coaches and players see those every day . It is a reminder of their past ,but also a statement of expectation ....
Maybe Mangini is saying this is not the old Browns ?? I do not know ,but I do not agree
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No the look your proposing is absolutely proposterouse...that would look ugly...get better players and the uni's dont matter so much...Decals on the Browns helmets just dont look good...The only change Id make is the face masks...make them white again....Other than that...leave the uni's be....
First off, I didn't propose anything. I simply suggested some ideas. If you look at playgroundlegend's signature, you'll see Rashad Jennings and see how simple is better and still up to date. As far as syracuse & va tech, these were the uni's I was referring to, not the hideous ones.
First off, I didn't propose anything. I simply suggested some ideas. If you look at playgroundlegend's signature, you'll see Rashad Jennings and see how simple is better and still up to date. As far as syracuse & va tech, these were the uni's I was referring to, not the hideous ones.
those stripes look absolutely stupid...no thanx...let me tell you something...less is more...someday you'll grasp that concept...those uni's look hideouse...
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I'm sure this is old news around here and has been discussed ad nauseum - but I'm interested in knowing how the news that Mangini's painted over the team's Hall of Fame mural - going out of his way to "erase" the ghosts of Browns greatness past like Jim Brown, Otto Graham, Paul Brown etc...
http://weblogs.newsday.com/sports/football...rowns_hist.html
I suppose the message to today's players is don't rest on decades old laurels of guys who failed to win a Super Bowl.
So is this a "Mangenius" moment or "Mangidiot" from the perspective of the fans? Is it time for the fans and players to put the past out of their minds, and no longer try to live up (or down) to the accomplishments of the past? Adopt an expansion team attitude perhaps? A clean slate?
It's different - I'll give him that - and could backfire the same way the whole "Keep Chopping" idea backfired on Jack Del Rio (i.e. good in theory - stupid in practice). Though he's of course taking knocks for an inconsistent message given his remarks at his initial press conference talking about the storied past of the franchise etc...
I think it is a bad move..Remind the current players at what "standard" they are being compared ..Those Players and coaches were the best of their time .What's wrong with the players of today knowing the excellent past history of the Team they play for?? In Pittsburgh ,their are 5 Super Bowl trophys .The coaches and players see those every day . It is a reminder of their past ,but also a statement of expectation ....
Maybe Mangini is saying this is not the old Browns ?? I do not know ,but I do not agree
I think it is a bad move..Remind the current players at what "standard" they are being compared ..Those Players and coaches were the best of their time .What's wrong with the players of today knowing the excellent past history of the Team they play for?? In Pittsburgh ,their are 5 Super Bowl trophys .The coaches and players see those every day . It is a reminder of their past ,but also a statement of expectation ....
Maybe Mangini is saying this is not the old Browns ?? I do not know ,but I do not agree
Come on now. You don't need a painting to remind players on the Browns now of the players of the past. You bring up SB trophy's, and that is not the same. Mangini didn't remove all of CLE's championship trophys. Just a painting on the wall.
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