This is the worst professional sports organization in all of professional sports
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...don't give me this one year crap either, it works both ways. Look at what Chip is doing w/ the Eagles. Comes in from Oregon, makes a couple moves, runs a training camp where people are throwing up and can't even crawl off the damn field - BOOM! Now they're fighting for the playoffs and will probably get in. It can be done. It will be done here, but not with Chud.
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The team quit after the special teams meltdown against Cinci. You can have the franchise QB, bruiser RB, and a offensive and defensive philosphy capable of stomping through any opposition, but if you lose the locker room it's over. Chud couldn't get the team to play for him anymore. I know it. You know it. This board knows it. The team looked like a bunch of heartless players ever since the bye week. If he can't win them over, which he didn't, he doesn't need to stick around. If anyone wanted Chud to succeed more than me, I'd like to meet him, but it was over a long time ago.
The team quit after the special teams meltdown against Cinci. You can have the franchise QB, bruiser RB, and a offensive and defensive philosphy capable of stomping through any opposition, but if you lose the locker room it's over. Chud couldn't get the team to play for him anymore. I know it. You know it. This board knows it. The team looked like a bunch of heartless players ever since the bye week. If he can't win them over, which he didn't, he doesn't need to stick around. If anyone wanted Chud to succeed more than me, I'd like to meet him, but it was over a long time ago.
Navysteve, IMO you are 100%correct. I don't know wtf happened during the bye week but it was the beginning of the end.
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Clevfan4life is %100 right
This organization is pure shit. U thibk next season is down the drain??? Try the next 5. U guys like josh Gordon? WAVE GOODBYE.
This is a Fucking joke and ur damn sure im pissed off.
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...don't give me this one year crap either, it works both ways. Look at what Chip is doing w/ the Eagles. Comes in from Oregon, makes a couple moves, runs a training camp where people are throwing up and can't even crawl off the damn field - BOOM! Now they're fighting for the playoffs and will probably get in. It can be done. It will be done here, but not with Chud.
...don't give me this one year crap either, it works both ways. Look at what Chip is doing w/ the Eagles. Comes in from Oregon, makes a couple moves, runs a training camp where people are throwing up and can't even crawl off the damn field - BOOM! Now they're fighting for the playoffs and will probably get in. It can be done. It will be done here, but not with Chud.
Look at the eagles schedule and who've they've beaten. I think the bears are the best team they've beaten. Their other wins come against the likes of the bucs, redskins and Giants. And right now they're in a dogfight with Kyle fucking Orton......perspective? Actually the best team they beat was the Packers but of course that was the ole gunslinger Scott Tolzien. Yeah, sorry not impressed. The Browns would have their record even with Weeden as our qb if we had that schedule.
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Cleveland you have, I believe, 11 picks in the draft...use all of them. None of this packaging picks to move up anymore. You need a roster makeover. Go w/ QB, WR, CB, OL, C, SS, and on and on. Mack is gone, Ward is gone. You're going to have holes from FA so use all 11 picks. Antonio Bryant is a 6th round pick and smoke Haden and Skrine this year. You can find talent, especially in this draft, in ALL rounds.,
Coaches out there will jump at the chance to be the next Head Coach, especially to write their own script of being THE GUY to lead this team to the Super Bowl Finding a coach won't be a problem. Use those draft picks. Get an intelligent QB. Run a training camp that unites this group though merciless conditioning, discipline, and order and let the results speak for themselves. Injuries happen, next man up! Cleveland needs to believe that when they step across the white line on Sunday's their opponent is going to remember the hitting and relentless in your face attack of both our offense and defense. Chud was obviosly a players coach and padded all this guy's bottoms throughout the year. I want a coach that's not afraid to light someone up in front of a national audience and throw their ass on the freakin' pine bench. It's not a democracy in Bera, it's a dicatorship and the coach is the law. Bring 'em on down.
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Clevfan4life is %100 right
This organization is pure shit. U thibk next season is down the drain??? Try the next 5. U guys like josh Gordon? WAVE GOODBYE.
This is a Fucking joke and ur damn sure im pissed off.
U guys like josh Gordon? WAVE GOODBYE.
I don't think that guy wanted to be here much anyway, but I'm pretty damn sure that he absolutely wants out now. He made himself a name with his play, nows the time to get something for him before he mails next season in and then we get nothing.
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Pretty sure no other professionally recognized sports franchise in all of pro sports has this kind of revolving door. Who the fuck wants to coach the Cleveland Browns? Who? I better hear by tommorrow that some big name coach was already on board before today and that's why they let CHud go. Otherwise we're going to hold out our hands again this offseason and beg people to come here? We're gonna get shit that's what we're gonna get. Even up and coming coaches who would contemplate coming here to make a name for themselves aren't gonna do it now. They know their career can and will likely die here in Cleveland. YOu didn't play .500 ball your first year? Bye!!! That doesn't work. By firing Chudzinski today we utterly guaranteed a sub .500 season next year. New system, new players...another rebuild. Fantastic. Do you all realize this yet? Next year is already over. This season just ended and next season ended a mere hour later. We're gonna have a new system with 7 rookies in likely some very important positions. 4 wins tops next year. You can forget about retaining any of our guys that have the option to be gone next year. Nobody's coming back here. Another rebuild year next year. How the fuck are some of you not completely stock tired of this?
If you cant handle the heat then dont fucking apply. Its a pressure cooker in the NFL and if you cant cut it get the fuck out.
If you cant handle the heat then dont fucking apply. Its a pressure cooker in the NFL and if you cant cut it get the fuck out.
This statement shows how fucking immature and dumb as shit you are, grow the fuck up
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Cleveland you have, I believe, 11 picks in the draft...use all of them. None of this packaging picks to move up anymore. You need a roster makeover. Go w/ QB, WR, CB, OL, C, SS, and on and on. Mack is gone, Ward is gone. You're going to have holes from FA so use all 11 picks. Antonio Bryant is a 6th round pick and smoke Haden and Skrine this year. You can find talent, especially in this draft, in ALL rounds.,
Coaches out there will jump at the chance to be the next Head Coach, especially to write their own script of being THE GUY to lead this team to the Super Bowl Finding a coach won't be a problem. Use those draft picks. Get an intelligent QB. Run a training camp that unites this group though merciless conditioning, discipline, and order and let the results speak for themselves. Injuries happen, next man up! Cleveland needs to believe that when they step across the white line on Sunday's their opponent is going to remember the hitting and relentless in your face attack of both our offense and defense. Chud was obviosly a players coach and padded all this guy's bottoms throughout the year. I want a coach that's not afraid to light someone up in front of a national audience and throw their ass on the freakin' pine bench. It's not a democracy in Bera, it's a dicatorship and the coach is the law. Bring 'em on down.
Coaches out there will jump at the chance to be the next Head Coach, especially to write their own script of being THE GUY to lead this team to the Super Bowl Finding a coach won't be a problem.
Now see this is interesting. On what basis do you make this assumption? You think there's a high level coach out there that says fuck my ass running these Browns have 11 picks in this years draft I need to get my ass over there asap? Is that really what you think? Cause didn't we whiff on more than one coach last year while having a shit load of cap before we settled on Chud? Didn't Chip end of going to Philly for less money? I mean what are the base facts that lead you to beleive that there's high level coaches getting into fist fights with each other to come to cleveland?
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Coaches out there will jump at the chance to be the next Head Coach, especially to write their own script of being THE GUY to lead this team to the Super Bowl Finding a coach won't be a problem.
Now see this is interesting. On what basis do you make this assumption? You think there's a high level coach out there that says fuck my ass running these Browns have 11 picks in this years draft I need to get my ass over there asap? Is that really what you think? Cause didn't we whiff on more than one coach last year while having a shit load of cap before we settled on Chud? Didn't Chip end of going to Philly for less money? I mean what are the base facts that lead you to beleive that there's high level coaches getting into fist fights with each other to come to cleveland?
Now see this is interesting. On what basis do you make this assumption? You think there's a high level coach out there that says fuck my ass running these Browns have 11 picks in this years draft I need to get my ass over there asap? Is that really what you think? Cause didn't we whiff on more than one coach last year while having a shit load of cap before we settled on Chud? Didn't Chip end of going to Philly for less money? I mean what are the base facts that lead you to beleive that there's high level coaches getting into fist fights with each other to come to cleveland?
Plus now that Banner has fired 2 coaches in 2 years, it doesn't help
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Because every coordinator and college coach wants a crack at being a head coach and believes they have what it takes to win in the NFL.
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Because every coordinator and college coach wants a crack at being a head coach and believes they have what it takes to win in the NFL.
Because every coordinator and college coach wants a crack at being a head coach and believes they have what it takes to win in the NFL.
we need an experienced NFL head coach.
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If you cant handle the heat then dont fucking apply. Its a pressure cooker in the NFL and if you cant cut it get the fuck out.
This statement shows how fucking immature and dumb as shit you are, grow the fuck up
This statement shows how fucking immature and dumb as shit you are, grow the fuck up
really its for the people that think no one will come here because they are afraid they will get fired after one year? Wow if you go into an interview shaking in your boots you should not be in this business. I want a coach that will look me in the eyes and tell me he will put my team in the playoffs in his first year not some pansy worried about getting fired.
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This statement shows how fucking immature and dumb as shit you are, grow the fuck up
really its for the people that think no one will come here because they are afraid they will get fired after one year? Wow if you go into an interview shaking in your boots you should not be in this business. I want a coach that will look me in the eyes and tell me he will put my team in the playoffs in his first year not some pansy worried about getting fired.
really its for the people that think no one will come here because they are afraid they will get fired after one year? Wow if you go into an interview shaking in your boots you should not be in this business. I want a coach that will look me in the eyes and tell me he will put my team in the playoffs in his first year not some pansy worried about getting fired.
you're damn right!
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Coaches out there will jump at the chance to be the next Head Coach, especially to write their own script of being THE GUY to lead this team to the Super Bowl Finding a coach won't be a problem.
Now see this is interesting. On what basis do you make this assumption? You think there's a high level coach out there that says fuck my ass running these Browns have 11 picks in this years draft I need to get my ass over there asap? Is that really what you think? Cause didn't we whiff on more than one coach last year while having a shit load of cap before we settled on Chud? Didn't Chip end of going to Philly for less money? I mean what are the base facts that lead you to beleive that there's high level coaches getting into fist fights with each other to come to cleveland?
Now see this is interesting. On what basis do you make this assumption? You think there's a high level coach out there that says fuck my ass running these Browns have 11 picks in this years draft I need to get my ass over there asap? Is that really what you think? Cause didn't we whiff on more than one coach last year while having a shit load of cap before we settled on Chud? Didn't Chip end of going to Philly for less money? I mean what are the base facts that lead you to beleive that there's high level coaches getting into fist fights with each other to come to cleveland?
Chip used Cleveland to milk Oregon for more cash, only to leave there when he found out the NCAA was going to sanction his ass.
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This statement shows how fucking immature and dumb as shit you are, grow the fuck up
really its for the people that think no one will come here because they are afraid they will get fired after one year? Wow if you go into an interview shaking in your boots you should not be in this business. I want a coach that will look me in the eyes and tell me he will put my team in the playoffs in his first year not some pansy worried about getting fired.
really its for the people that think no one will come here because they are afraid they will get fired after one year? Wow if you go into an interview shaking in your boots you should not be in this business. I want a coach that will look me in the eyes and tell me he will put my team in the playoffs in his first year not some pansy worried about getting fired.
YOu don't know how the NFL works stop watching it. When "ALL" the pieces are in place you can expect that out of a coach. If Chuds had been coaching the Broncos for instance, and gone 4-11...maybe you would have a point that a guy should be able to squeeze out a .500 season with arguably the best qb that's ever played the game. This isnt' Denver dude. And any coach that looks you in the eye and says I'll get the team into the playoffs in the 1st year...you know what...he'll do everything in his power to do that including selling out the teams future viability for a short term patch that gets the team drummed out 1st round. That's not what I want I don't know about anybody else. I don't want us brining in high priced ass hats to get us to 8-8 and maybe sniff a wildcard spot, but fucks the team over for years to come. Look at what the Redskins got for selling the house on RG. Soooo you need to study the game a bit more dude. Seriously. You don't understand the game.
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really its for the people that think no one will come here because they are afraid they will get fired after one year? Wow if you go into an interview shaking in your boots you should not be in this business. I want a coach that will look me in the eyes and tell me he will put my team in the playoffs in his first year not some pansy worried about getting fired.
YOu don't know how the NFL works stop watching it. When "ALL" the pieces are in place you can expect that out of a coach. If Chuds had been coaching the Broncos for instance, and gone 4-11...maybe you would have a point that a guy should be able to squeeze out a .500 season with arguably the best qb that's ever played the game. This isnt' Denver dude. And any coach that looks you in the eye and says I'll get the team into the playoffs in the 1st year...you know what...he'll do everything in his power to do that including selling out the teams future viability for a short term patch that gets the team drummed out 1st round. That's not what I want I don't know about anybody else. I don't want us brining in high priced ass hats to get us to 8-8 and maybe sniff a wildcard spot, but fucks the team over for years to come. Look at what the Redskins got for selling the house on RG. Soooo you need to study the game a bit more dude. Seriously. You don't understand the game.
YOu don't know how the NFL works stop watching it. When "ALL" the pieces are in place you can expect that out of a coach. If Chuds had been coaching the Broncos for instance, and gone 4-11...maybe you would have a point that a guy should be able to squeeze out a .500 season with arguably the best qb that's ever played the game. This isnt' Denver dude. And any coach that looks you in the eye and says I'll get the team into the playoffs in the 1st year...you know what...he'll do everything in his power to do that including selling out the teams future viability for a short term patch that gets the team drummed out 1st round. That's not what I want I don't know about anybody else. I don't want us brining in high priced ass hats to get us to 8-8 and maybe sniff a wildcard spot, but fucks the team over for years to come. Look at what the Redskins got for selling the house on RG. Soooo you need to study the game a bit more dude. Seriously. You don't understand the game.
you are describing the GM duties not the head coach so who knows how it works?
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It works the same as any other job...benefits, work enviroment, pay, job security, get along with your boss.
The browns don't pay anybody
Job security is shit
Work enviroment is a losing culture
Joe Banner is an asshole
The only benefit is if you get fired after a year you can sip margaritas on the beach with Mike Holmgren and get paid to do it for the next 3 years.
If your being considered for a head coaching job it means your doing pretty well where your at.....I'm gonna stay were I'm at and wait for a better opportunity.
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It works the same as any other job...benefits, work enviroment, pay, job security, get along with your boss.
The browns don't pay anybody
Job security is shit
Work enviroment is a losing culture
Joe Banner is an asshole
The only benefit is if you get fired after a year you can sip margaritas on the beach with Mike Holmgren and get paid to do it for the next 3 years.
If your being considered for a head coaching job it means your doing pretty well where your at.....I'm gonna stay were I'm at and wait for a better opportunity.
It works the same as any other job...benefits, work enviroment, pay, job security, get along with your boss.
The browns don't pay anybody
Job security is shit
Work enviroment is a losing culture
Joe Banner is an asshole
The only benefit is if you get fired after a year you can sip margaritas on the beach with Mike Holmgren and get paid to do it for the next 3 years.
If your being considered for a head coaching job it means your doing pretty well where your at.....I'm gonna stay were I'm at and wait for a better opportunity.
This is so right. Topdawg just read this post and stop it. Just stop. Fuck aren't we still paying Mangini a salary? I mean fuck my ass running thank god coaching salaries don't count against your cap or we wouldn't have as much to play with as we do. Actually this may have been Mangini's final year we were paying him if I remember correclty he had a 5 year deal. So it looks like it's only Shurm and Chuds now on the books for a couple more years. God doesn't that just piss you all off?
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Hell, who the fuck wouldn't want to coach the Browns? Work one year get paid for five.
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fuck off.
all i know is for once i'm jealous of philly fans.
and i thought i'd never say that.
chud and them all should be out the door with banner and lombardi leading the way.
doesn't anyone anywhere know how to judge talent and pick them in the draft or FA?
there sure as hell hasn't been anyone in cleveland for a long long time.
and with our QB going down you still put out a piece of shit product like that? see ya chud the dud!
no emotion. no nothing.
hire rob ryan!!!!!!!!!!! YIPPEE!!!!!!!
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