With the 4th Pick of the 2014 Draft, The Cleveland Browns Select:

[bbedward]

I'm not looking forward to this draft. If it isn't good, we're doomed forever.

[nickers]

Joe Fabeetz: Special Teams Maven!

[Kosar_For_President]

@hunt-daddy said:

Strength of schedule is the first tiebreaker.

Thanks Hunt

[Neo]

I guess it wouldn't be out of the realm of possibility that they could take a punter in the first round. They already fired their head coach when he had absolutely no chance of success.

[Mark O]

How can you say he had no chance for success? The team was tied or in the lead at half time 10 times this season and only won 4 games. Even 3-3 in the 6 losses when we were in that situation makes it a respectable 7-9 season and we aren't having discussions about who the new coach is going to be today.

[Clevfan4life]

@neo said:

I guess it wouldn't be out of the realm of possibility that they could take a punter in the first round. They already fired their head coach when he had absolutely no chance of success.

I'm all over it, here's our #1 pick this year...http://espn.go.com/college-football/player/_/id/484003/zac-murphy

zac fucking murphy bitches!! 10 wins here we come.

[Erie Dawg]

@mark-o said:

How can you say he had no chance for success? The team was tied or in the lead at half time 10 times this season and only won 4 games. Even 3-3 in the 6 losses when we were in that situation makes it a respectable 7-9 season and we aren't having discussions about who the new coach is going to be today.

so its hortons fault too? he is as responsible for the otherside of the ball during game time moreso than chud. They couldnt finish on the D side of the ball especially on 3rd down.

what about the dropped passes? This has been a problem for years now. Didnt just start all of the sudden.

Was it chuds fault that Bess quit the team to go find himself?

We are all guilty of overvalueing our personel, myself included, I even argued during the season that this team is way more than a Qb away from contention when some where ready to go "all in" on a qb in this yeras draft.

The FO picked who they thought was the best man the main problem was jizz lips Lombardi (wasnt) the Gm when chud was hired.

[runyon27]

We should seriously think about trading up, the Rams have already stated they are willing to listen to offers.

[jcam222]

@mark-o said:

How can you say he had no chance for success? The team was tied or in the lead at half time 10 times this season and only won 4 games. Even 3-3 in the 6 losses when we were in that situation makes it a respectable 7-9 season and we aren't having discussions about who the new coach is going to be today.

Mark I am curious as to whether you blame the defense or offense more in those 6 losses?

[Mark O]

@jcam222 said:

Mark I am curious as to whether you blame the defense or offense more in those 6 losses?

I think both sides deserve blame. But ultimately the head coach is going to take the blame for not making adjustments.

[TopDawg31]

It had better be a fucking QB is all I can say.

[TopDawg31]

@mike-h said:

Johnny Football. Fuck it, I'm on board. He's either going to be a star or a steaming pile of shit.

Roll the dice Jimmy, get er done!!!!!!!!

It totally makes sense, McDaniels will love him.

The kid was amazing in the only game I ever saw him play in. I would have no problem with it.

[Browns616]

I think no matter what happens the Browns will Trade up to #2 overall with the Rams and Draft Manziel or Bridgewater if he is available. We need a QB and we shouldn't let Jax get our guy

[RoyceRolls]

Bortles or Watkins are the only possibilities I will endorse, well I guess if bridgewater falls and bortles is already gone he would be ok. Manziel is a reach in the first round. I'd select him in round seven as seven is the number of games he'll play before his bones are ground to dust.

[miktoxic]

@runyon27 said:

We should seriously think about trading up, the Rams have already stated they are willing to listen to offers.

no fucking way.

with the number four pick we can prob land manziel straight up. what another TR reach? ask the redskins how they feel about all those picks they traded away as they clean out their lockers.

[runyon27]

@miktoxic said:

no fucking way.

with the number four pick we can prob land manziel straight up. what another TR reach? ask the redskins how they feel about all those picks they traded away as they clean out their lockers.

After the grade out all the players, they will probably have 2 or 3, possibly more, QBs they might think are franchise worthy. Depending on how they grade out the players will probably determine what they do. If they determine there are two QBs in this draft class that are a cut above, you must trade up. If they believe there are 4 of about equal stature that changes your thinking. You cannot play lets hope the QB we want drops to us or we will be having this same issue forever.

[D Bone]

@miktoxic said:

no fucking way.

with the number four pick we can prob land manziel straight up. what another TR reach? ask the redskins how they feel about all those picks they traded away as they clean out their lockers.

^^^ This right here Banner, Lombardi and ?

[BrownOrange]

I guarantee the Rams trade out and Browns should be that team and take Manziel. Then I like Odell Beckham Jr with the Colts pick.

[RoyceRolls]

@brownorange said:

I guarantee the Rams trade out and Browns should be that team and take Manziel. Then I like Odell Beckham Jr with the Colts pick.

Trade up to #2 to select the fifth best qb in the class....sounds great. Here's an idea let's trade up to #1 and select Stephen Morris

[miktoxic]

every draft model i've seen today has us pick manziel or bortles at number four without making any moves.

i would do the opposite and trade down get the best CB or WR then pick the best QB with your second first round pick.

but that's just me unless th second coming of aaron rodgers is blake bortles or johhny manziel.