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  • Kiper also criticized the drafting of Marshall Faulk. For a guy that has 363 days a year to get 2 days worth of work right, I think he misses an awful lot.

  • S Spectralcow

    Kiper also criticized the drafting of Marshall Faulk. For a guy that has 363 days a year to get 2 days worth of work right, I think he misses an awful lot.

    @spectralcow said:

    Kiper also criticized the drafting of Marshall Faulk. For a guy that has 363 days a year to get 2 days worth of work right, I think he misses an awful lot.

    now that is a good gig

  • Honestly why the hell not draft this guy? The browns keep trotting out big tall stupid QB's (minus McCoy who was just stupid), so I'm all for giving Manziel a chance. He's clearly an athlete with swagger a la Phillip Rivers. With Manziel under center at least our offensive would be exciting. I think he's a douche but he's been very solid against the best competition in college football. The shit we've been doing for the past 15 years hasn't worked. Same way I feel about Chud, seems stupid on paper but maybe it's what will finally turn the ship around.

    The last guy that went high in the draft like this who I thought sucked was Cam Newton. I know from a physical standpoint it's apples to oranges but still.

  • JB called today and asked that I scout this guy so I'll be tuned in. AFC North has no room for noodle arms when the fall/winter winds pick up as recently demonstrated with McCoy.

    Even Flacco has trouble getting the ball down the field in windy Bmore. Johnny football was pretty well protected with only 42 sacks so far on his resume. Durability a big question

    mark. Of course his athleticism got him out of a lot of potential bell ringers. He may not be able to rely on that asset in the NFL with it's ramped up D speed. Cringe factor of running

    QB's quickly ages pro coaches. Lord know Browns fan pucker at each QB scramble after seeing the outcome of a Hoyer scoot and boot

  • We have a good number of draft picks. Manziel is "boom or bust" with the highest potential in the upcoming draft. The kid is spunky, a playmaker, instinctive as hell & tough, BUT he could crash. Why not draft him AND another QB such as a Garoppolo/Mettenberger, etc in the 3rd (Hoyer is currently all we have) or trade for Cousins in addition to the Manziel pick? That way, we cover a potential bust, create excitement, & have our 3 QBs with upside. Just a thought.

    Mike

    IN DORSEY I TRUST

  • I'm not opposed to selecting a backup qb in the mid rounds

  • So if I watch the game tonight what should i look for and expect? Is he different than McCoy was at Texas?

  • So if I watch the game tonight what should i look for and expect? Is he different than McCoy was at Texas?

    If he can duplicate what Rodgers did on the last play of Sunday's game in Chicago I would be fueling the private jet up for a meet and greet in Texas or wherever Johnny ends up after tonight's game.

    J 1 Reply

  • let me fuel up the long beach pimp jet up?

  • Prolly so. Haz may not be doing much pimp jet flying after Uncle Jam finishes with him.

  • I've not done any homework on the up and coming QB's for next year's draft, but based on the input TCPO has posted here....I'm for Bortles. I was relieved when Browns lost the bid to grab the RG3 pick, because his style of play is too risky IMO. And look what happened, he already had a major knee injury in his rookie year. AFC North is a tough division, and many games played in adverse weather conditions. Get a bigger QB who hopefully has some decent mobility too. Somebody like Manziel probably won't last here. Not if he has to face AFC North defenses twice a year.

    That being said...I'm also in the camp that think the FO is going to pursue McDaniels hard. And from what I've read that most likely means a guy like Manziel will be who they go after in the draft.

  • tml1138T tml1138

    I've not done any homework on the up and coming QB's for next year's draft, but based on the input TCPO has posted here....I'm for Bortles. I was relieved when Browns lost the bid to grab the RG3 pick, because his style of play is too risky IMO. And look what happened, he already had a major knee injury in his rookie year. AFC North is a tough division, and many games played in adverse weather conditions. Get a bigger QB who hopefully has some decent mobility too. Somebody like Manziel probably won't last here. Not if he has to face AFC North defenses twice a year.

    That being said...I'm also in the camp that think the FO is going to pursue McDaniels hard. And from what I've read that most likely means a guy like Manziel will be who they go after in the draft.

    @tml1138 said:

    I've not done any homework on the up and coming QB's for next year's draft, but based on the input TCPO has posted here....I'm for Bortles. I was relieved when Browns lost the bid to grab the RG3 pick, because his style of play is too risky IMO. And look what happened, he already had a major knee injury in his rookie year. AFC North is a tough division, and many games played in adverse weather conditions. Get a bigger QB who hopefully has some decent mobility too. Somebody like Manziel probably won't last here. Not if he has to face AFC North defenses twice a year.

    That being said...I'm also in the camp that think the FO is going to pursue McDaniels hard. And from what I've read that most likely means a guy like Manziel will be who they go after in the draft.

    Exactly! That's why I think it wise to draft TWO QBs in this draft.

    Mike

    IN DORSEY I TRUST

  • Rodgers is listed at 6'2'', 225, and I personally think that is a stretch. He has thrived in the frozen tundra more, I think, on brains than brawn. Dude is the iceman at the line of scrimmage and

    doesn't get rattled when the pocket begins to implode. He is fundamentally in step on all of his throws. Watch his footwork on the winning toss in the Chicago game. Dude is a warrior.

    Rookie QB bust factor certainly not an exact science with early breakthroughs being the exception. Sure glad I am not in charge of picking the next Andrew Luck.

  • So far, not impressed. Off passes, almost there passes our WR have no way of catching (little, Bess) any new guy. Isn't Duke know for there basketball and raping laqrouse team?

    More evaluation to come from the "great white hope of Cleveland" review.

  • Here's a different opinion:

    Trent Dilfer ‏@TDESPN 20m

    Johnny made two perfect downfield throws on that drive and WR's couldn't make the play.

  • Trent Dilfer ‏@TDESPN 10m

    How does Walker not chase that ball down? Brutal WR play by A&M so far. BTW, don't question Johnny's arm talent, that ball was high & deep

  • I'm not a Dilfer fan at all but the guy knows a thing or two about playing QB in the NFL.

  • Dilfer is a dillhole

  • Fuck Johnny Foosball. Draft me some bluedevils!!!

    "We are Americans. We don't quit doing something because it's wrong. We just keep doing the wrong thing till it turns out right." Browns maybe the most American Football team ever.

  • This is like watching the browns for week 18!! Can this kid handle the pressure of a Pro game as he is showing in the Chick f la bowl? Don't want this kid. so far.

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