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  • Yeah you bring up a very good point about the time. it scares me though considering Big 12 defenses typically aren't the strongest in the NCAA.

  • It's the first I've seen the kid, ever. I can't say he has shown me anything to get excited about. He is a big kid and is faster than he looks, but so far, just another college kid under center.

  • Bortles is really showing a lack of vision.

  • looks like david borealis from 'angel' and 'buffy the vampire slayer'.

    too bad we play our games during the day.

    plus if he's a bust he'll suck the blood out of this franchise for another 5 years.

  • Not sure we have that much blood left? 😎

  • Guy has had a hell of a second half.

  • He reminds me of Luck in terms of his size and speed. He is much faster than his size says he should be.............. Too bad he doesn't throw like Andrew.

  • Don't know what all the hype is about. I haven't seen anything amazing from him. Of course I'm not a pro scout and the only tape I see is highlight videos on Youtube.

  • Reminds me of Jake Locker with a slightly more accurate ball. I think his RB Storm Jobnson helps him create plays and play as well as he does. His speed is his biggest upside but in the nfl everyone is playing fast. I think he's more of a product of his environment then an elite talent capable of performing at a high level in the NFL. . Don't get me wrong he can play in the NFL but is he just another Jake Locker?

  • crossed him off my list.

    added cook from mich state to my list.

  • Didn't see the game but doesn't sound good. A shame. Has size and decent speed, but of course gotta be accurate too.

  • Bortles made some bad decisions and release is a tad slower than I like, but he also showed more speed and better fundamentals than I was expecting. Main thing is I am still not sure how much this whole read option bit distorts a QB's talent.

    As for Cook.... ummmm... no...

  • In a late round, if Cook was there, I'd pick him up as a dev backup qb.

  • I think we're on a crash course for Manziel.

    Bortles had a bad first half but a strong second half showing against a team that was supposed to beat UCF by 17 points last night.

    He turned a team from nothing into something and beat teams they had no right beating (Baylor, South Carolina, Lousville, Penn State). He's a big bodied player with mobility and elusiveness (yes, they're different). That's why I wanted him, and that's why I still prefer him over Manziel.

    I can see the advantages in both quarterbacks. I just can't see Manziel bouncing off a 340 lb man and then throwing a TD on Sundays.

  • I think we're on a crash course for Manziel.

    Bortles had a bad first half but a strong second half showing against a team that was supposed to beat UCF by 17 points last night.

    He turned a team from nothing into something and beat teams they had no right beating (Baylor, South Carolina, Lousville, Penn State). He's a big bodied player with mobility and elusiveness (yes, they're different). That's why I wanted him, and that's why I still prefer him over Manziel.

    I can see the advantages in both quarterbacks. I just can't see Manziel bouncing off a 340 lb man and then throwing a TD on Sundays.

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    I can see the advantages in both quarterbacks. I just can't see Manziel bouncing off a 340 lb man and then throwing a TD on Sundays.

    ^this

  • I think we're on a crash course for Manziel.

    Bortles had a bad first half but a strong second half showing against a team that was supposed to beat UCF by 17 points last night.

    He turned a team from nothing into something and beat teams they had no right beating (Baylor, South Carolina, Lousville, Penn State). He's a big bodied player with mobility and elusiveness (yes, they're different). That's why I wanted him, and that's why I still prefer him over Manziel.

    I can see the advantages in both quarterbacks. I just can't see Manziel bouncing off a 340 lb man and then throwing a TD on Sundays.

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    I think we're on a crash course for Manziel.

    Bortles had a bad first half but a strong second half showing against a team that was supposed to beat UCF by 17 points last night.

    He turned a team from nothing into something and beat teams they had no right beating (Baylor, South Carolina, Lousville, Penn State). He's a big bodied player with mobility and elusiveness (yes, they're different). That's why I wanted him, and that's why I still prefer him over Manziel.

    I can see the advantages in both quarterbacks. I just can't see Manziel bouncing off a 340 lb man and then throwing a TD on Sundays.

    And to think people are projecting 195 lb Bridgewater as the #1 pick.

  • Bortles seems like a dink and dunker all the way. The bulk of his yardage came from screens to Storm Johnson, not from throwing up field. He does look a lot like Big Ben in stature, but doubt he will play like him in the NFL.

    Manziel will get broken in the NFL.

  • Is it just me or does Teddy Twatwater not have a neck? Dude looks like his head is literally just sitting on his shoulders.

  • @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    I think we're on a crash course for Manziel.

    Bortles had a bad first half but a strong second half showing against a team that was supposed to beat UCF by 17 points last night.

    He turned a team from nothing into something and beat teams they had no right beating (Baylor, South Carolina, Lousville, Penn State). He's a big bodied player with mobility and elusiveness (yes, they're different). That's why I wanted him, and that's why I still prefer him over Manziel.

    I can see the advantages in both quarterbacks. I just can't see Manziel bouncing off a 340 lb man and then throwing a TD on Sundays.

    And to think people are projecting 195 lb Bridgewater as the #1 pick.

    @topdawg31 said:

    And to think people are projecting 195 lb Bridgewater as the #1 pick.

    Barring an unforeseen injury or underwhelming Combine performance, Bridgewater will more than likely be the first pick. Bridgewater at least has the frame to add more weight, being a full three inches taller than Johnny Manziel.

    Neither are where you'd like, as far as stature and weight, but both have their qualities to like. The difference between Bridgewater and Manziel is that Bridgewater does little to put himself in danger, whereas Manziel will literally bounce off and jump over linemen in order to make a play. While that is an extremely redeeming quality, it can also lead to injury very quickly in the NFL.