Auburn's Malzahn
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1) Malzahn signed a 6 yr contract extension with Auburn worth around 4m a year. In normal circumstances it would probably take getting around twice that much to get him to consider coming here and abandoning a program that he has built into a perennial NCAA powerhouse that will be in the discussion for the national championship for years to come. In our current circumstances, the deal Haslem would have to give him would include a ridculous buyout in the very likely scenario we cut his tenure short. Chud just got a 10.5m buyout from the browns. Just for shits and giggles let's pretend there is remotely a chance he's coming here and let's theorize on the buyout clause he would insist on.
2) All do respect to Malzahn, I do not want the Browns to go after another no huddle read option blah blah blah. I want a guy who's coached in teh NFL and knows what works and what doesn't. The time to get in on the read option ride would have been a few years ago. It's on the downturn now as defensive coordinators are studying it constantly. It will only be viable for another year or so....so why lock in a coach who only knows how to win like this on the college level? I want a guy who knows that in the NFL, especially the AFC North.....you get a big fucking FB who gets wood just thinkng about hitting AFC North LB'ers (we had one of those), then you get a big downhill RB who's first instinct is to accelerate through the gaps the play calls for and if there's a defender there he's take em with him for a couple yds (we also had one of those).
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1) Malzahn signed a 6 yr contract extension with Auburn worth around 4m a year. In normal circumstances it would probably take getting around twice that much to get him to consider coming here and abandoning a program that he has built into a perennial NCAA powerhouse that will be in the discussion for the national championship for years to come. In our current circumstances, the deal Haslem would have to give him would include a ridculous buyout in the very likely scenario we cut his tenure short. Chud just got a 10.5m buyout from the browns. Just for shits and giggles let's pretend there is remotely a chance he's coming here and let's theorize on the buyout clause he would insist on.
2) All do respect to Malzahn, I do not want the Browns to go after another no huddle read option blah blah blah. I want a guy who's coached in teh NFL and knows what works and what doesn't. The time to get in on the read option ride would have been a few years ago. It's on the downturn now as defensive coordinators are studying it constantly. It will only be viable for another year or so....so why lock in a coach who only knows how to win like this on the college level? I want a guy who knows that in the NFL, especially the AFC North.....you get a big fucking FB who gets wood just thinkng about hitting AFC North LB'ers (we had one of those), then you get a big downhill RB who's first instinct is to accelerate through the gaps the play calls for and if there's a defender there he's take em with him for a couple yds (we also had one of those).
1) Malzahn signed a 6 yr contract extension with Auburn worth around 4m a year. In normal circumstances it would probably take getting around twice that much to get him to consider coming here and abandoning a program that he has built into a perennial NCAA powerhouse that will be in the discussion for the national championship for years to come. In our current circumstances, the deal Haslem would have to give him would include a ridculous buyout in the very likely scenario we cut his tenure short. Chud just got a 10.5m buyout from the browns. Just for shits and giggles let's pretend there is remotely a chance he's coming here and let's theorize on the buyout clause he would insist on.
A 1st year college coach takes his team to the national title game and all of a sudden he has built a "perennial NCAA powerhouse?" Slow down. It took a hail mary and a missed FG returned for a TD to even get to the title game that has yet to be played. Auburn could go .500 next year for all we know. Malzahn will stay with Auburn anyway so the Browns front office is just wasting their time. I wouldn't mind a coach with NFL experience too, but haven't heard any names to get excited about..
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rather have home town boy mickey D. at least he's from here and has some NFL coaching experience.
and yes he made some mistakes but hopefully he'd learn from them.
no college wannabees pleez, even though kelly has made the cut so far.
key words SO FAR.
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You win the SEC and you give it up to join The Three Stooges and no QB at the bottom of the AFC North?
On Mike & MIke they asked this morning ... between Washington, Minnesota and Cleveland which is the most attractive job?
The answers: "Eh". and "I'll Pass".
After further evaluation, they said Washington because maybe you could build something with Griffin, and then Minnesota because at least you had a running game.
When asked directly about Cleveland (It was either Mort or Scheffler, I think Mort) said there are concerns from the outside about the organization there, and Haslem's going to have to sell that (clear that up)to any potential candidates.
We have 5 Pro Bowlers, tons of cap and tons of draft picks ... but all people see is 1. No Quarterback and 2. Fucked up organization.
Had they given Chud a second year, a full back, a real WR across from Gordon and one year with a real QB prospect, I don't think anyone would have faulted them if they fired him after another losing season.
But to fucking send all these coaches and their families packing after one year ... they are not making many points out there.
"Here ... come beat Pittsburgh, Baltimore and Cincy every year ... good luck with the QB thing ... and you'll work with the roster we give you."
Banner and Lombardi shop for the groceries and you cook an award-winning dinner or you'll be moving your family again next year and wish you never left that cushy college job.
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We wont get a good hire. Face it - we are the least attractive HC job in the NFL right now - with a FO that will fire you immediately if you dont win in year 1.
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Other teams are hiring their guys....yet the Browns are silent because they CAN"T get the guy they want. Noone wants to come here.
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Other teams are hiring their guys....yet the Browns are silent because they CAN"T get the guy they want. Noone wants to come here.
Other teams are hiring their guys....yet the Browns are silent because they CAN"T get the guy they want. Noone wants to come here.
Or, the guy that they want is still coaching (well, coordinating) in the playoffs and we won't announce until after their team is out.
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Other teams are hiring their guys....yet the Browns are silent because they CAN"T get the guy they want. Noone wants to come here.
Or, the guy that they want is still coaching (well, coordinating) in the playoffs and we won't announce until after their team is out.
Or, the guy that they want is still coaching (well, coordinating) in the playoffs and we won't announce until after their team is out.
That's the more reasonable conclusion. Everyone that the Browns are reported to like has a team still playing.
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Other teams are hiring their guys....yet the Browns are silent because they CAN"T get the guy they want. Noone wants to come here.
Other teams are hiring their guys....yet the Browns are silent because they CAN"T get the guy they want. Noone wants to come here.
Hearing this makes me laugh. There are only 32 of these jobs on earth. The candidates have been coaching for most of their lives, with the dream being one of these jobs. Yes, maybe your over-rated, look at me coaches like Gruden won't want to coach a team in transition, but for 95% of the other candidates out there, THEY are hoping their phone rings and the Browns are on the other end.
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We wont get a good hire. Face it - we are the least attractive HC job in the NFL right now - with a FO that will fire you immediately if you dont win in year 1.
We wont get a good hire. Face it - we are the least attractive HC job in the NFL right now - with a FO that will fire you immediately if you dont win in year 1.
That's not all that bad, work for 1 get paid for 3-5.
Malzahn might not wanna leave what he has at auburn tho.
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That's the more reasonable conclusion. Everyone that the Browns are reported to like has a team still playing.
Right. Having two replacements already in place after Black Monday is really an aberration.
O'Brien got in because he is a college coach of a team with no bowl game, and Lovie is in because he took a year off.
And then you have the "Burned Out Boys": Billick/Cowher/Gruden.
They each got their ring and their cushy TV job.....but you know what none of those guys will ever get if they never come back to coaching: Hall of Fame recognition. Tony Dungy will get his because of his status as the first SB winning HC that was black. (but really his creds beyond skin color are no better than the Burn Out Boys.) Shanahan/Holmgren/Belichick/Coughlin have more HOF cred than those guys.
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Other teams are hiring their guys....yet the Browns are silent because they CAN"T get the guy they want. Noone wants to come here.
Hearing this makes me laugh. There are only 32 of these jobs on earth. The candidates have been coaching for most of their lives, with the dream being one of these jobs. Yes, maybe your over-rated, look at me coaches like Gruden won't want to coach a team in transition, but for 95% of the other candidates out there, THEY are hoping their phone rings and the Browns are on the other end.
Hearing this makes me laugh. There are only 32 of these jobs on earth. The candidates have been coaching for most of their lives, with the dream being one of these jobs. Yes, maybe your over-rated, look at me coaches like Gruden won't want to coach a team in transition, but for 95% of the other candidates out there, THEY are hoping their phone rings and the Browns are on the other end.
Well, you've convinced me. I can't wait for Pat Shurmur part 2.
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That's the more reasonable conclusion. Everyone that the Browns are reported to like has a team still playing.
Right. Having two replacements already in place after Black Monday is really an aberration.
O'Brien got in because he is a college coach of a team with no bowl game, and Lovie is in because he took a year off.
And then you have the "Burned Out Boys": Billick/Cowher/Gruden.
They each got their ring and their cushy TV job.....but you know what none of those guys will ever get if they never come back to coaching: Hall of Fame recognition. Tony Dungy will get his because of his status as the first SB winning HC that was black. (but really his creds beyond skin color are no better than the Burn Out Boys.) Shanahan/Holmgren/Belichick/Coughlin have more HOF cred than those guys.
Right. Having two replacements already in place after Black Monday is really an aberration.
O'Brien got in because he is a college coach of a team with no bowl game, and Lovie is in because he took a year off.
And then you have the "Burned Out Boys": Billick/Cowher/Gruden.
They each got their ring and their cushy TV job.....but you know what none of those guys will ever get if they never come back to coaching: Hall of Fame recognition. Tony Dungy will get his because of his status as the first SB winning HC that was black. (but really his creds beyond skin color are no better than the Burn Out Boys.) Shanahan/Holmgren/Belichick/Coughlin have more HOF cred than those guys.
The burned out boys would probably trash their reputation by coming here.
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We wont get a good hire. Face it - we are the least attractive HC job in the NFL right now - with a FO that will fire you immediately if you dont win in year 1.
We wont get a good hire. Face it - we are the least attractive HC job in the NFL right now - with a FO that will fire you immediately if you dont win in year 1.
I doubt that. A coach with just enough ego will see that 10 games were lost this year when the Browns were ahead or tied at the half, with performance getting ever worse down the line. If there is a coach who has the skills to match the ego, he'll think (and will) do better with the same team. Then there's the upcoming draft picks and cap space to work with to boot.
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That's the more reasonable conclusion. Everyone that the Browns are reported to like has a team still playing.
Right. Having two replacements already in place after Black Monday is really an aberration.
O'Brien got in because he is a college coach of a team with no bowl game, and Lovie is in because he took a year off.
And then you have the "Burned Out Boys": Billick/Cowher/Gruden.
They each got their ring and their cushy TV job.....but you know what none of those guys will ever get if they never come back to coaching: Hall of Fame recognition. Tony Dungy will get his because of his status as the first SB winning HC that was black. (but really his creds beyond skin color are no better than the Burn Out Boys.) Shanahan/Holmgren/Belichick/Coughlin have more HOF cred than those guys.
Right. Having two replacements already in place after Black Monday is really an aberration.
O'Brien got in because he is a college coach of a team with no bowl game, and Lovie is in because he took a year off.
And then you have the "Burned Out Boys": Billick/Cowher/Gruden.
They each got their ring and their cushy TV job.....but you know what none of those guys will ever get if they never come back to coaching: Hall of Fame recognition. Tony Dungy will get his because of his status as the first SB winning HC that was black. (but really his creds beyond skin color are no better than the Burn Out Boys.) Shanahan/Holmgren/Belichick/Coughlin have more HOF cred than those guys.
Sounds about right to me. Personally I would love it if Cowher would come here as HC and have success.
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Other teams are hiring their guys....yet the Browns are silent because they CAN"T get the guy they want. Noone wants to come here.
Hearing this makes me laugh. There are only 32 of these jobs on earth. The candidates have been coaching for most of their lives, with the dream being one of these jobs. Yes, maybe your over-rated, look at me coaches like Gruden won't want to coach a team in transition, but for 95% of the other candidates out there, THEY are hoping their phone rings and the Browns are on the other end.
Hearing this makes me laugh. There are only 32 of these jobs on earth. The candidates have been coaching for most of their lives, with the dream being one of these jobs. Yes, maybe your over-rated, look at me coaches like Gruden won't want to coach a team in transition, but for 95% of the other candidates out there, THEY are hoping their phone rings and the Browns are on the other end.
reall dude? How many coaches have we watched the past couple years flatly turn us down and we have to end up with someone barely any of us has ever heard of. This is ridiculous. Stop it with this fantasy that there's established coaches beating down the door to coach the Browns. There isn't. They know that even at good franchises the coaching staffs turn over eveyr couple of years. Chud just got 10.5m from the Browns......he could sit on a beach in St. Martens for the next 10 years just off that buyout. Do you get that most of these even mid tier coaches have millions and millions of dollars? McDaniels probably made the same from his short stint in Denver and is probably still making a decent penny with NE. YOu think he's beating down the door to be the Browns HC? You're kidding yourself. YOu don't understand how low this organization is looked at right now. The people who want this job are low D1 coaches or D2 guys that know if they can land a job even with a shitty organization like the Browns that they're set for life. One contract and these guys can live the good life. We're simply not an attractive destination for a coach that wants to win.
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god, Malzahn has the opportunity to win a national championship and build an SEC dynasty for years to come.....why on earth do any of you even conceive that someone in his position would come to the Browns? He's already making 4m from Auburn and will likely have that go up in renegotiations in the coming years if he keeps it up. He's in a position to make an Urban Meyer like run at Auburn but he's going to drop that for a job in the NFL that will ruin his name and then he'll be lucky to land a d2 job? Y'all just trollin right?
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Hearing this makes me laugh. There are only 32 of these jobs on earth. The candidates have been coaching for most of their lives, with the dream being one of these jobs. Yes, maybe your over-rated, look at me coaches like Gruden won't want to coach a team in transition, but for 95% of the other candidates out there, THEY are hoping their phone rings and the Browns are on the other end.
reall dude? How many coaches have we watched the past couple years flatly turn us down and we have to end up with someone barely any of us has ever heard of. This is ridiculous. Stop it with this fantasy that there's established coaches beating down the door to coach the Browns. There isn't. They know that even at good franchises the coaching staffs turn over eveyr couple of years. Chud just got 10.5m from the Browns......he could sit on a beach in St. Martens for the next 10 years just off that buyout. Do you get that most of these even mid tier coaches have millions and millions of dollars? McDaniels probably made the same from his short stint in Denver and is probably still making a decent penny with NE. YOu think he's beating down the door to be the Browns HC? You're kidding yourself. YOu don't understand how low this organization is looked at right now. The people who want this job are low D1 coaches or D2 guys that know if they can land a job even with a shitty organization like the Browns that they're set for life. One contract and these guys can live the good life. We're simply not an attractive destination for a coach that wants to win.
reall dude? How many coaches have we watched the past couple years flatly turn us down and we have to end up with someone barely any of us has ever heard of. This is ridiculous. Stop it with this fantasy that there's established coaches beating down the door to coach the Browns. There isn't. They know that even at good franchises the coaching staffs turn over eveyr couple of years. Chud just got 10.5m from the Browns......he could sit on a beach in St. Martens for the next 10 years just off that buyout. Do you get that most of these even mid tier coaches have millions and millions of dollars? McDaniels probably made the same from his short stint in Denver and is probably still making a decent penny with NE. YOu think he's beating down the door to be the Browns HC? You're kidding yourself. YOu don't understand how low this organization is looked at right now. The people who want this job are low D1 coaches or D2 guys that know if they can land a job even with a shitty organization like the Browns that they're set for life. One contract and these guys can live the good life. We're simply not an attractive destination for a coach that wants to win.
LMAO OK Chicken Little. Why don't you and the rest of the boo hoo boyz all get the fuck out of here and go root for someone else. If you're gonna stay, then pull up your big boy pants and quit your fucking crying. That goes for all of the boo hoo boyz.
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reall dude? How many coaches have we watched the past couple years flatly turn us down and we have to end up with someone barely any of us has ever heard of. This is ridiculous. Stop it with this fantasy that there's established coaches beating down the door to coach the Browns. There isn't. They know that even at good franchises the coaching staffs turn over eveyr couple of years. Chud just got 10.5m from the Browns......he could sit on a beach in St. Martens for the next 10 years just off that buyout. Do you get that most of these even mid tier coaches have millions and millions of dollars? McDaniels probably made the same from his short stint in Denver and is probably still making a decent penny with NE. YOu think he's beating down the door to be the Browns HC? You're kidding yourself. YOu don't understand how low this organization is looked at right now. The people who want this job are low D1 coaches or D2 guys that know if they can land a job even with a shitty organization like the Browns that they're set for life. One contract and these guys can live the good life. We're simply not an attractive destination for a coach that wants to win.
LMAO OK Chicken Little. Why don't you and the rest of the boo hoo boyz all get the fuck out of here and go root for someone else. If you're gonna stay, then pull up your big boy pants and quit your fucking crying. That goes for all of the boo hoo boyz.
LMAO OK Chicken Little. Why don't you and the rest of the boo hoo boyz all get the fuck out of here and go root for someone else. If you're gonna stay, then pull up your big boy pants and quit your fucking crying. That goes for all of the boo hoo boyz.
nope...the guys with the big boy pants on were the ones who settled in to watch a new regime stay and rebuild for a couple years. We were the ones ok for now with the team losing, because we knew this is gonna take time. It was the whiny poosies like you that apparently the FO listened to. You don't build an elite foundation in one year, this is clear...not in the NFL. Mid way through next year, when they fire the coach midseason......ill remind you to pull your big boy pants. up.
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