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    Tim Couch Pulls OutT Tim Couch Pulls Out wrote on last edited by
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    I think we're on a crash course for Manziel.

    Bortles had a bad first half but a strong second half showing against a team that was supposed to beat UCF by 17 points last night.

    He turned a team from nothing into something and beat teams they had no right beating (Baylor, South Carolina, Lousville, Penn State). He's a big bodied player with mobility and elusiveness (yes, they're different). That's why I wanted him, and that's why I still prefer him over Manziel.

    I can see the advantages in both quarterbacks. I just can't see Manziel bouncing off a 340 lb man and then throwing a TD on Sundays.

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      I think we're on a crash course for Manziel.

      Bortles had a bad first half but a strong second half showing against a team that was supposed to beat UCF by 17 points last night.

      He turned a team from nothing into something and beat teams they had no right beating (Baylor, South Carolina, Lousville, Penn State). He's a big bodied player with mobility and elusiveness (yes, they're different). That's why I wanted him, and that's why I still prefer him over Manziel.

      I can see the advantages in both quarterbacks. I just can't see Manziel bouncing off a 340 lb man and then throwing a TD on Sundays.

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      @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

      I can see the advantages in both quarterbacks. I just can't see Manziel bouncing off a 340 lb man and then throwing a TD on Sundays.

      ^this

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        I think we're on a crash course for Manziel.

        Bortles had a bad first half but a strong second half showing against a team that was supposed to beat UCF by 17 points last night.

        He turned a team from nothing into something and beat teams they had no right beating (Baylor, South Carolina, Lousville, Penn State). He's a big bodied player with mobility and elusiveness (yes, they're different). That's why I wanted him, and that's why I still prefer him over Manziel.

        I can see the advantages in both quarterbacks. I just can't see Manziel bouncing off a 340 lb man and then throwing a TD on Sundays.

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        TopDawg31T TopDawg31 wrote on last edited by
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        @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

        I think we're on a crash course for Manziel.

        Bortles had a bad first half but a strong second half showing against a team that was supposed to beat UCF by 17 points last night.

        He turned a team from nothing into something and beat teams they had no right beating (Baylor, South Carolina, Lousville, Penn State). He's a big bodied player with mobility and elusiveness (yes, they're different). That's why I wanted him, and that's why I still prefer him over Manziel.

        I can see the advantages in both quarterbacks. I just can't see Manziel bouncing off a 340 lb man and then throwing a TD on Sundays.

        And to think people are projecting 195 lb Bridgewater as the #1 pick.

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          Bortles seems like a dink and dunker all the way. The bulk of his yardage came from screens to Storm Johnson, not from throwing up field. He does look a lot like Big Ben in stature, but doubt he will play like him in the NFL.

          Manziel will get broken in the NFL.

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            Is it just me or does Teddy Twatwater not have a neck? Dude looks like his head is literally just sitting on his shoulders.

            Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...
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              C Town's SoldierC C Town's Soldier wrote on last edited by
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              I'd Draft his girl in the first round... http://larrybrownsports.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/blake-bortles-girlfriend-lindsey-duke-bikini.jpg

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                @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

                I think we're on a crash course for Manziel.

                Bortles had a bad first half but a strong second half showing against a team that was supposed to beat UCF by 17 points last night.

                He turned a team from nothing into something and beat teams they had no right beating (Baylor, South Carolina, Lousville, Penn State). He's a big bodied player with mobility and elusiveness (yes, they're different). That's why I wanted him, and that's why I still prefer him over Manziel.

                I can see the advantages in both quarterbacks. I just can't see Manziel bouncing off a 340 lb man and then throwing a TD on Sundays.

                And to think people are projecting 195 lb Bridgewater as the #1 pick.

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                Tim Couch Pulls OutT Tim Couch Pulls Out wrote on last edited by
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                @topdawg31 said:

                And to think people are projecting 195 lb Bridgewater as the #1 pick.

                Barring an unforeseen injury or underwhelming Combine performance, Bridgewater will more than likely be the first pick. Bridgewater at least has the frame to add more weight, being a full three inches taller than Johnny Manziel.

                Neither are where you'd like, as far as stature and weight, but both have their qualities to like. The difference between Bridgewater and Manziel is that Bridgewater does little to put himself in danger, whereas Manziel will literally bounce off and jump over linemen in order to make a play. While that is an extremely redeeming quality, it can also lead to injury very quickly in the NFL.

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                  D BoneD D Bone wrote on last edited by
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                  I've seen every one of Hundley's games this year, and to me, with my limited knowledge of the other QBs, he looks like he might have the biggest upside because of his size, speed and overall athletic ability. I don't know if that will ever translate into a true NFL QB, but that can be said for all of them.

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                    I like Hundleys potential a lot, has he declared? Last I heard he was expected to return to UCLA

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                      I've seen every one of Hundley's games this year, and to me, with my limited knowledge of the other QBs, he looks like he might have the biggest upside because of his size, speed and overall athletic ability. I don't know if that will ever translate into a true NFL QB, but that can be said for all of them.

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                      Tim Couch Pulls OutT Tim Couch Pulls Out wrote on last edited by
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                      @d-bone said:

                      I've seen every one of Hundley's games this year, and to me, with my limited knowledge of the other QBs, he looks like he might have the biggest upside because of his size, speed and overall athletic ability. I don't know if that will ever translate into a true NFL QB, but that can be said for all of them.

                      I, too, am high on Hundley.

                      My wishlist would be:

                      1.Hundley

                      2.Bortles

                      3.Manziel

                      4.Myself

                      5.Anyone else

                      6.Derek Carr

                      I just don't see a Hundley or a Bortles in Cleveland if McDaniels were to take over. Further, the reports are that this FO is very high on Manziel, so I don't see a coach getting the job unless he was as well.

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                      • Tim Couch Pulls OutT Tim Couch Pulls Out

                        @d-bone said:

                        I've seen every one of Hundley's games this year, and to me, with my limited knowledge of the other QBs, he looks like he might have the biggest upside because of his size, speed and overall athletic ability. I don't know if that will ever translate into a true NFL QB, but that can be said for all of them.

                        I, too, am high on Hundley.

                        My wishlist would be:

                        1.Hundley

                        2.Bortles

                        3.Manziel

                        4.Myself

                        5.Anyone else

                        6.Derek Carr

                        I just don't see a Hundley or a Bortles in Cleveland if McDaniels were to take over. Further, the reports are that this FO is very high on Manziel, so I don't see a coach getting the job unless he was as well.

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                        D BoneD D Bone wrote on last edited by
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                        @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

                        I, too, am high on Hundley.

                        My wishlist would be:

                        1.Hundley

                        2.Bortles

                        3.Manziel

                        4.Myself

                        5.Anyone else

                        6.Derek Carr

                        I just don't see a Hundley or a Bortles in Cleveland if McDaniels were to take over. Further, the reports are that this FO is very high on Manziel, so I don't see a coach getting the job unless he was as well.

                        LMAO! I agree 100% with your top 6

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                          @d-bone said:

                          I've seen every one of Hundley's games this year, and to me, with my limited knowledge of the other QBs, he looks like he might have the biggest upside because of his size, speed and overall athletic ability. I don't know if that will ever translate into a true NFL QB, but that can be said for all of them.

                          I, too, am high on Hundley.

                          My wishlist would be:

                          1.Hundley

                          2.Bortles

                          3.Manziel

                          4.Myself

                          5.Anyone else

                          6.Derek Carr

                          I just don't see a Hundley or a Bortles in Cleveland if McDaniels were to take over. Further, the reports are that this FO is very high on Manziel, so I don't see a coach getting the job unless he was as well.

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                          The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                          @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

                          I, too, am high on Hundley.

                          My wishlist would be:

                          1.Hundley

                          2.Bortles

                          3.Manziel

                          4.Myself

                          5.Anyone else

                          6.Derek Carr

                          I just don't see a Hundley or a Bortles in Cleveland if McDaniels were to take over. Further, the reports are that this FO is very high on Manziel, so I don't see a coach getting the job unless he was as well.

                          Have you declared your eligibility for the draft?

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                            @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

                            I, too, am high on Hundley.

                            My wishlist would be:

                            1.Hundley

                            2.Bortles

                            3.Manziel

                            4.Myself

                            5.Anyone else

                            6.Derek Carr

                            I just don't see a Hundley or a Bortles in Cleveland if McDaniels were to take over. Further, the reports are that this FO is very high on Manziel, so I don't see a coach getting the job unless he was as well.

                            Have you declared your eligibility for the draft?

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                            Tim Couch Pulls OutT Tim Couch Pulls Out wrote on last edited by
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                            @the-gipper said:

                            Have you declared your eligibility for the draft?

                            I'm testing the waters. I've inquired about my draft stock, want to see what round I'd get picked.

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                            • Tim Couch Pulls OutT Tim Couch Pulls Out

                              I think we're on a crash course for Manziel.

                              Bortles had a bad first half but a strong second half showing against a team that was supposed to beat UCF by 17 points last night.

                              He turned a team from nothing into something and beat teams they had no right beating (Baylor, South Carolina, Lousville, Penn State). He's a big bodied player with mobility and elusiveness (yes, they're different). That's why I wanted him, and that's why I still prefer him over Manziel.

                              I can see the advantages in both quarterbacks. I just can't see Manziel bouncing off a 340 lb man and then throwing a TD on Sundays.

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                              USFBrownU USFBrown wrote on last edited by
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                              @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

                              I think we're on a crash course for Manziel.

                              Bortles had a bad first half but a strong second half showing against a team that was supposed to beat UCF by 17 points last night.

                              He turned a team from nothing into something and beat teams they had no right beating (Baylor, South Carolina, Lousville, Penn State). He's a big bodied player with mobility and elusiveness (yes, they're different). That's why I wanted him, and that's why I still prefer him over Manziel.

                              I can see the advantages in both quarterbacks. I just can't see Manziel bouncing off a 340 lb man and then throwing a TD on Sundays.

                              I wouldn't say he took them from nothing. 3 of the last 4 years UCF has had 10+ wins and they beat Georgia without him (2010 i believe).

                              I agree that he's a big mobile QB. Similar to Big Ben. I also prefer him over Manziel.

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                                @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

                                I think we're on a crash course for Manziel.

                                Bortles had a bad first half but a strong second half showing against a team that was supposed to beat UCF by 17 points last night.

                                He turned a team from nothing into something and beat teams they had no right beating (Baylor, South Carolina, Lousville, Penn State). He's a big bodied player with mobility and elusiveness (yes, they're different). That's why I wanted him, and that's why I still prefer him over Manziel.

                                I can see the advantages in both quarterbacks. I just can't see Manziel bouncing off a 340 lb man and then throwing a TD on Sundays.

                                I wouldn't say he took them from nothing. 3 of the last 4 years UCF has had 10+ wins and they beat Georgia without him (2010 i believe).

                                I agree that he's a big mobile QB. Similar to Big Ben. I also prefer him over Manziel.

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                                Tim Couch Pulls OutT Tim Couch Pulls Out wrote on last edited by
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                                @usfbrown said:

                                I wouldn't say he took them from nothing. 3 of the last 4 years UCF has had 10+ wins and they beat Georgia without him (2010 i believe).

                                I agree that he's a big mobile QB. Similar to Big Ben. I also prefer him over Manziel.

                                Georgia notwithstanding, they beat relative nobodies from 2008 until 2011, besting weak CUSA teams such as Houston, Rice and Tulane.

                                UCF had never beaten a Big 10 or Big 12 team until this year nor had they ever beaten a Top 10 team until they beat Louisville this year. This year marks the first BCS Bowl they've been to, where they beat a #6 ranked Baylor squad. They nearly beat a Top 5 South Carolina team, losing only by three after Bortles threw two fourth quarter touchdowns.

                                Their 2010 season was filled with pretty unspectacular victories, the only two big victories being the CUSA championship over #25 ranked SMU and then the Liberty Bowl victory over a weak #24 ranked Georgia.

                                They didn't come from nothing, I'll grant you that, but they were twice the team this year than they were any other year.

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                                  After watching that bowl game, it seems that Petty and Bortles could both

                                  do well to stay in school another year.

                                  But either could also learn behind Hoyer a season, unless the three Browns front office potato heads

                                  trade Hoyer for a back up punter.....

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                                    After watching that bowl game, it seems that Petty and Bortles could both

                                    do well to stay in school another year.

                                    But either could also learn behind Hoyer a season, unless the three Browns front office potato heads

                                    trade Hoyer for a back up punter.....

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                                    Tim Couch Pulls OutT Tim Couch Pulls Out wrote on last edited by
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                                    @calfoxwc said:

                                    After watching that bowl game, it seems that Petty and Bortles could both

                                    do well to stay in school another year.

                                    But either could also learn behind Hoyer a season, unless the three Browns front office potato heads

                                    trade Hoyer for a back up punter.....

                                    Lombardi would never.

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                                      I think we're on a crash course for Manziel.

                                      Bortles had a bad first half but a strong second half showing against a team that was supposed to beat UCF by 17 points last night.

                                      He turned a team from nothing into something and beat teams they had no right beating (Baylor, South Carolina, Lousville, Penn State). He's a big bodied player with mobility and elusiveness (yes, they're different). That's why I wanted him, and that's why I still prefer him over Manziel.

                                      I can see the advantages in both quarterbacks. I just can't see Manziel bouncing off a 340 lb man and then throwing a TD on Sundays.

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                                      Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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                                      @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

                                      I think we're on a crash course for Manziel.

                                      Bortles had a bad first half but a strong second half showing against a team that was supposed to beat UCF by 17 points last night. He turned a team from nothing into something and beat teams they had no right beating (Baylor, South Carolina, Lousville, Penn State). He's a big bodied player with mobility and elusiveness (yes, they're different). That's why I wanted him, and that's why I still prefer him over Manziel.

                                      I can see the advantages in both quarterbacks. I just can't see Manziel bouncing off a 340 lb man and then throwing a TD on Sundays.

                                      Manziel has the quickness and agility to avoid big hits, but not the judgement. Bortles has speed, but not sure about his quickness, i.e., acceleration, and agility.

                                      Neither will bounce off of 340 pounders.

                                      Does Bortles ever get under center?

                                      @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

                                      My wishlist would be: 1.Hundley 2.Bortles 3.Manziel 4.Myself 5.Anyone else 6.Derek Carr

                                      Cool... I'm #5...

                                      @calfoxwc said:

                                      After watching that bowl game, it seems that Petty and Bortles could both do well to stay in school another year.

                                      Petty really does not impress me.

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                                        He's definitely a big QB at 6'4" 230 lbs. He does benefit from a good RB in Storm Johnson. Haven't seen enough of him to comment on his accuracy and ball placement.

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                                        slimdawgS slimdawg wrote on last edited by slimdawg
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                                        @usfbrown said:

                                        He's definitely a big QB at 6'4" 230 lbs. He does benefit from a good RB in Storm Johnson. Haven't seen enough of him to comment on his accuracy and ball placement.

                                        Yeah he is a big mo-fo, what surprises me about him is how good he moves and runs. He's got some quicks for sure. I'm starting to like him more than any other QB coming out.

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