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Is Tom Brady the greatest of all time?

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  • tml1138T tml1138

    Interestingly enough, Patriots were a running team last night against the Colts. Did Brady even throw one touchdown pass last night?

    I guess they figured they'd exploit Colts run defense, or lack thereof. It worked.

    @tml1138 said:

    Interestingly enough, Patriots were a running team last night against the Colts. Did Brady even throw one touchdown pass last night?

    I guess they figured they'd exploit Colts run defense, or lack thereof. It worked.

    No he didn't throw a TD last night.

    It sure would be a refreshing change for a Browns team exploit another teams weaknesses. But you need a REAL headcoach and QB to do that. SIGH!!!!!! 🙁

    "And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve."

  • Best? No...

    But as Bum Phillips once said about Earl Campbell:

    "He may not be in a class by himself, but it does not take long to call the role."

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  • I would rather start a franchise with a young Tom Brady than anyone.

    Guys a winner, it's tough to argue with his success.

  • No.

  • Kosar_For_PresidentK Kosar_For_President

    @diehardbrownsfan said:

    No.

    Explain....

    @kosar_for_president said:

    Explain....

    I think he is definitely one of the best, but find it hard to qualify 'best of all time'. Quarterbacks played in different era's, amount of games, less pussy rules then the quarterbacks have now. So I have favorites, but not any I would consider best.

    "You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.

  • Tom Brady is the greatest of all time. Montana is his only competition. I feel lucky to see him and manning playing in the same era

    Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...

  • I feel like he's great (arm strength accuracy, awareness, etc) but the organization is to be given much credit for keeping the man with a GREAT O-Line year in and year out.

    It all starts up front

  • I prefer manning, but it is very close. Everyone talks about Brady's SBs but he hasn't won anything since the league got wise to BBs cheating pattern. I'm not saying Brady doesn't have the skill to win but it's just interesting: cheating=3-0 no cheating=0-2

  • I don't know, I think Billy has a lot to do with his success.

    remember the year he went down and Matt Cassel stepped in and was a super star, and now he is a third string behind Ponder and Freeman.

    Not saying Brady is a slub, but if he played for another team, I doubt he would be as successful.

    gftChrisG 1 Reply

  • Manning is the best I've ever seen, Brady hasn't passed Montana in my mind yet, but he is certainly in the same neighborhood.

    I'm a stubborn Browns fan though, so ... Otto Graham is the greatest QB ever.

    Zombo

  • hx214H hx214

    I don't know, I think Billy has a lot to do with his success.

    remember the year he went down and Matt Cassel stepped in and was a super star, and now he is a third string behind Ponder and Freeman.

    Not saying Brady is a slub, but if he played for another team, I doubt he would be as successful.

    @hx214 said:

    I don't know, I think Billy has a lot to do with his success.

    remember the year he went down and Matt Cassel stepped in and was a super star, and now he is a third string behind Ponder and Freeman.

    Not saying Brady is a slub, but if he played for another team, I doubt he would be as successful.

    So then are we saying the if you picked up brady and BB and dumped them on any other team they'd stand a chance of making the playoffs in 2 years? Because I'm close to thinking that's genuinely the case.

  • gftChrisG gftChris

    @hx214 said:

    I don't know, I think Billy has a lot to do with his success.

    remember the year he went down and Matt Cassel stepped in and was a super star, and now he is a third string behind Ponder and Freeman.

    Not saying Brady is a slub, but if he played for another team, I doubt he would be as successful.

    So then are we saying the if you picked up brady and BB and dumped them on any other team they'd stand a chance of making the playoffs in 2 years? Because I'm close to thinking that's genuinely the case.

    @gftchris said:

    So then are we saying the if you picked up brady and BB and dumped them on any other team they'd stand a chance of making the playoffs in 2 years? Because I'm close to thinking that's genuinely the case.

    Yep, you could say that.

    But I also think you could take BB and he could do it with just about any QB in the league. Not so sure about Brady being able to do it with any other coach. I feel like Manning could do it with any other coach though.

  • tml1138T tml1138

    Interestingly enough, Patriots were a running team last night against the Colts. Did Brady even throw one touchdown pass last night?

    I guess they figured they'd exploit Colts run defense, or lack thereof. It worked.

    @tml1138 said:

    Interestingly enough, Patriots were a running team last night against the Colts. Did Brady even throw one touchdown pass last night?

    I guess they figured they'd exploit Colts run defense, or lack thereof. It worked.

    But if Brady had to throw to win he would have done that

  • J jeffinwv

    @tml1138 said:

    Interestingly enough, Patriots were a running team last night against the Colts. Did Brady even throw one touchdown pass last night?

    I guess they figured they'd exploit Colts run defense, or lack thereof. It worked.

    But if Brady had to throw to win he would have done that

    @jeffinwv said:

    But if Brady had to throw to win he would have done that

    I'm sure. I'm only pointing out I found it interesting that they didn't utilize him that way...in a playoff game no less. Another question...I wonder was that BB's idea or Josh McD's?

  • who knows...coulda been the plan was pass..then when they would run and it got a nice gain they said lets just do this till they stop it...If the Browns ever found something that worked I would suggest doing this same thing one day

    tml1138T 1 Reply

  • Yes he is but its definetly not coaching BB didnt do shit for us when he was here

    next2nothingN 1 Reply
  • J jeffinwv

    who knows...coulda been the plan was pass..then when they would run and it got a nice gain they said lets just do this till they stop it...If the Browns ever found something that worked I would suggest doing this same thing one day

    @jeffinwv said:

    who knows...coulda been the plan was pass..then when they would run and it got a nice gain they said lets just do this till they stop it...If the Browns ever found something that worked I would suggest doing this same thing one day

    Yes, that's what I assume was most likely too.

  • Cassell winning so many games with the Pats showed they are a very well built offense whoever is the QB.

    I honestly think he is the most overrated QB in history and certainly isn't anywhere near Manning for me

    T 1 Reply
  • J JMR-JUST-A-GAME

    Yes he is but its definetly not coaching BB didnt do shit for us when he was here

    @jmr-just-a-game said:

    Yes he is but its definetly not coaching BB didnt do shit for us when he was here

    I'd take BB over all the jokes we've hired since '99.

  • next2nothingN next2nothing

    @jmr-just-a-game said:

    Yes he is but its definetly not coaching BB didnt do shit for us when he was here

    I'd take BB over all the jokes we've hired since '99.

    @next2nothing said:

    I'd take BB over all the jokes we've hired since '99.

    BB is a complete 0 without Brady...

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