New fan.
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There may be parts of Cal that are shitty, but one undeniable fact is that the whole of Birmingham is shitty. Every square inch.
Well done for picking the browns however. Once bitten forever smitten. You might want to do your soccer talk elsewhere however, Zombo has a hair trigger for that kind of talk.
Maybe we need a soccer forum?

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Well, while we're on the topic. Anyone think Klinsmann can get our boys out of the group of death this year? I'd also love to see us beat Ghana.
Well, while we're on the topic. Anyone think Klinsmann can get our boys out of the group of death this year? I'd also love to see us beat Ghana.
US as in USA us?
Right now, in international sport we have more pressing matters.....as in who is going to win the bitch fight between the US and Canada in Women's hockey. And I do mean bitch fight. Every time they get together they go at it.
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This is a different fight in a different game:
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Around 10 years ago Leeds suffered the worst mismanagement at the top level in English football history.
They nearly went out of business and went from playing in the biggest club competition in the world (Champions League) to getting relegated a few times. They are currently in the level one below the Premiership.
Around 10 years ago Leeds suffered the worst mismanagement at the top level in English football history.
They nearly went out of business and went from playing in the biggest club competition in the world (Champions League) to getting relegated a few times. They are currently in the level one below the Premiership.
Well then our new fans will feel right at home- the Browns have suffered from terrible mismanagement since 1999, and even longer if you want to count in the last Modell years of ownership.
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Aston Villa having troubles, try being a Crystal Palace fan!

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Thanks for joining Aston Villa guy. Certainly not a bandwagon fan. Perhaps you could point our "leadership" in the direction of a head coach/technical director? We're losing out on guys who'd rather stay assistant coaches or coach a college team which is on double, top-secret probation for the next decade than be the Cleveland head coach.
The Browns have a tradition-rich history and the most loyal (abused) fans, but the current Browns would've been relegated down to about the seventh division through the last 25 years if the NFL was European.
My dad was 13 at the time of the Browns' last NFL Championship, before there was such a thing as a Super Bowl. He never gave me a choice in the matter. I can barely go back to such disasters as "The Drive" (playoffs 1987) and "The Fumble" (playoffs 1988), which would be brilliant accomplishments and honest reasons to "wait 'til next year" compared to anything the Browns have done since returning in 1999. Now the Browns find drink-inducing ways to fuck up, not fourth quarters which could've taken them to the Super Bowl, but regular season games against joke franchises like Jacksonville.
Welcome!
Thanks for joining Aston Villa guy. Certainly not a bandwagon fan. Perhaps you could point our "leadership" in the direction of a head coach/technical director? We're losing out on guys who'd rather stay assistant coaches or coach a college team which is on double, top-secret probation for the next decade than be the Cleveland head coach.
The Browns have a tradition-rich history and the most loyal (abused) fans, but the current Browns would've been relegated down to about the seventh division through the last 25 years if the NFL was European.
My dad was 13 at the time of the Browns' last NFL Championship, before there was such a thing as a Super Bowl. He never gave me a choice in the matter. I can barely go back to such disasters as "The Drive" (playoffs 1987) and "The Fumble" (playoffs 1988), which would be brilliant accomplishments and honest reasons to "wait 'til next year" compared to anything the Browns have done since returning in 1999. Now the Browns find drink-inducing ways to fuck up, not fourth quarters which could've taken them to the Super Bowl, but regular season games against joke franchises like Jacksonville.
Welcome!
Abused, the definition of A Cleveland Browns Fan lmao!¡!......... but really, WTF just happened here??
I feel like I'm in a episode of The Twilight Zone!
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Aston Villa having troubles, try being a Crystal Palace fan!

Aston Villa having troubles, try being a Crystal Palace fan!

Too many fans throwing too many rocks?
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This is a different fight in a different game:
This is a different fight in a different game:
IMO the guys dissing soccer should get with the program. NFL football pales in comparison to the worldwide popularity of soccer. Just think of it as slow motion hockey guys.
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You've probably had this topic before, but i am an Aston Villa who has decided to get into the NFL and i've chosen to support the browns, i've had Browns merchandise for ages but never really been into the NFL until now, any way i was wondering if you guys could give me some information about the browns and what not.
I'm not sure the nature of this forum so i could just end up getting abuse for being a fan of football (soccer) but oh well.
Also if any of you guys could tell me, was there ever any Villa merchandise sold over there? Or do you guys hate us.
Thanks.
Just spell it right if you are going to call soccer by that name: it is futbol.
We play football, you play futbol. Well, we play futbol too...but we call it soccer.
Just spell it right if you are going to call soccer by that name: it is futbol.
We play football, you play futbol. Well, we play futbol too...but we call it soccer.
Just give it up Gip, it's not clever, nobody's laughing. How many gridiron football fans do you suppose there are in the world? I mean, all of America and Canada, right? Plus maybe a couple of million outside of there? Except it won't be all of north america. Apparently, viewing figures for the superbowl 2012 - highest on record - were around 170 million. How many do you suppose play/watch association football? Well, the last world cup final attracted 3.2 billion people.
So please, stop trying to belittle a sport that is the most popular in the world, and getting on for 20 times more popular that NFL.
IMO the guys dissing soccer should get with the program. NFL football pales in comparison to the worldwide popularity of soccer. Just think of it as slow motion hockey guys.
Not sure about slow motion hockey, but if it works for you
Football/Soccer is a lot more tactical than hockey, which seems to basically consist of everybody trying to slam the puck towards the goal as hard and as often as possible
but to be fair I haven't watched much, outside of the odd winter olympics final or stanley cup highlights, so I could be misguided on that. -
Just spell it right if you are going to call soccer by that name: it is futbol.
We play football, you play futbol. Well, we play futbol too...but we call it soccer.
Just give it up Gip, it's not clever, nobody's laughing. How many gridiron football fans do you suppose there are in the world? I mean, all of America and Canada, right? Plus maybe a couple of million outside of there? Except it won't be all of north america. Apparently, viewing figures for the superbowl 2012 - highest on record - were around 170 million. How many do you suppose play/watch association football? Well, the last world cup final attracted 3.2 billion people.
So please, stop trying to belittle a sport that is the most popular in the world, and getting on for 20 times more popular that NFL.
IMO the guys dissing soccer should get with the program. NFL football pales in comparison to the worldwide popularity of soccer. Just think of it as slow motion hockey guys.
Not sure about slow motion hockey, but if it works for you
Football/Soccer is a lot more tactical than hockey, which seems to basically consist of everybody trying to slam the puck towards the goal as hard and as often as possible
but to be fair I haven't watched much, outside of the odd winter olympics final or stanley cup highlights, so I could be misguided on that.Not sure about slow motion hockey, but if it works for you
Football/Soccer is a lot more tactical than hockey, which seems to basically consist of everybody trying to slam the puck towards the goal as hard and as often as possible
but to be fair I haven't watched much, outside of the odd winter olympics final or stanley cup highlights, so I could be misguided on that.LAUGHABLE! Hockey, my friend, is a sport you need to get into. Soccer is ok and all, but Hockey is sheer poetry wrought with gut-busting tension and the speed, my god the speed! Comparing Hockey to Soccer is like comparing filet mignon to a cold dog turd on a paper plate.
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Not sure about slow motion hockey, but if it works for you
Football/Soccer is a lot more tactical than hockey, which seems to basically consist of everybody trying to slam the puck towards the goal as hard and as often as possible
but to be fair I haven't watched much, outside of the odd winter olympics final or stanley cup highlights, so I could be misguided on that.LAUGHABLE! Hockey, my friend, is a sport you need to get into. Soccer is ok and all, but Hockey is sheer poetry wrought with gut-busting tension and the speed, my god the speed! Comparing Hockey to Soccer is like comparing filet mignon to a cold dog turd on a paper plate.
LAUGHABLE! Hockey, my friend, is a sport you need to get into. Soccer is ok and all, but Hockey is sheer poetry wrought with gut-busting tension and the speed, my god the speed! Comparing Hockey to Soccer is like comparing filet mignon to a cold dog turd on a paper plate.
I agree about the comparison, but am probably on the other end of it! But I admire your passion for the sport. The nearest I've got to playing is various forms of floor hockey, which are fun, but nowhere near as fun as soccer. And in fairness, I did say I disagreed with the comparison

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LAUGHABLE! Hockey, my friend, is a sport you need to get into. Soccer is ok and all, but Hockey is sheer poetry wrought with gut-busting tension and the speed, my god the speed! Comparing Hockey to Soccer is like comparing filet mignon to a cold dog turd on a paper plate.
I agree about the comparison, but am probably on the other end of it! But I admire your passion for the sport. The nearest I've got to playing is various forms of floor hockey, which are fun, but nowhere near as fun as soccer. And in fairness, I did say I disagreed with the comparison

I agree about the comparison, but am probably on the other end of it! But I admire your passion for the sport. The nearest I've got to playing is various forms of floor hockey, which are fun, but nowhere near as fun as soccer. And in fairness, I did say I disagreed with the comparison

the subjectivity of life is a beautiful thing
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I agree about the comparison, but am probably on the other end of it! But I admire your passion for the sport. The nearest I've got to playing is various forms of floor hockey, which are fun, but nowhere near as fun as soccer. And in fairness, I did say I disagreed with the comparison

the subjectivity of life is a beautiful thing
the subjectivity of life is a beautiful thing
Indeed, if everyone had the same opinions on everything, then life would be a lot less interesting! This board wouldn't exist, the draft would be a foregone conclusion, politics wouldn't be a big thing and all the rest.
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I think we can get out of our group of death. We had the longest winning streak in US history this year, Altidore went off. We just need to find that again.
Of course the game in Cleveland I went to happened right before this streak, and we lost 2-4 to Belgium...
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I think we can get out of our group of death. We had the longest winning streak in US history this year, Altidore went off. We just need to find that again.
Of course the game in Cleveland I went to happened right before this streak, and we lost 2-4 to Belgium...
I think we can get out of our group of death. We had the longest winning streak in US history this year, Altidore went off. We just need to find that again.
Of course the game in Cleveland I went to happened right before this streak, and we lost 2-4 to Belgium...
Altidore is just terrible. 1 goal in 18 games for Sunderland just isn't good enough. Plus you'll be up against a team in Portugal (Germany are through) who is basically man for man a better team. You'll have to play extremely well to beat them, and hope Ronaldo is having an off day.
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Does Ronaldo have off days.....?
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Does Ronaldo have off days.....?
Does Ronaldo have off days.....?
Yeah, when he decides to let Gareth Bale do his dirty work.
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Well I know how we win...
... wait, is Onyewu on the roster?
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