Mel Kiper NFL Mock 1.0

Flyin J

Yep^

cuwoohio

I think Bortles v Bridgewater could come down to testing and combines. I would want to get into their heads and compare that.

The Gipper

@mark-o said:
Hyde in round 1 is a reach and I don't see us taking Bortles when Bridgewater is still on the board.

Actually I do see the Browns taking Bortles over Bridgewater.

As for Hyde in round 1, Mel is just slotting someone in there at a position of need.....and we do need that RB. But 1st round? Hmm.

MLD Woody

I think the point this early is to make a mock draft people will talk about. We will see how much it changes going forward.

Flyin J

Yeah BanBardi do not value the RB position at all. Id be shocked if they grabbed one before round 3.

Andruw u

It would be perfectly Browns-like to trade Richardson (not editorializing about if it was the right move...) because he was a bust as a first round pick, then reach even more for a RB with the pick from the trade.

bbedward

Still too early for mocks.

I disagree with him about manziel but whatev.

I'd like to get Dennard from msu somehow tho.

sig570

i like hyde, but come on. if we are going to take a first round RB (and we shouldnt) we should take tre mason. if hyde is availabe in the 3rd round then scoop him up

Hunt Daddy

Mel said the Carlos Hyde pick is really just a filler. He thinks that slot will be a really good spot for us to trade down for a team looking to move up for Derek Carr.

We can all agree this front office won't be taking a running back in the first round. No way they trade a back for a first round pick and then use that pick to draft a back.

Mark O

Are we sure Tre Mason is coming out? The SI I was just reading had him among the favorites for next years Heisman.

sig570

article from nbcsports about him leaving.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/01/09/2236688/

RoyceRolls

@bbedward said:

Still too early for mocks.

I disagree with him about manziel but whatev.

I'd like to get Dennard from msu somehow tho.

I would be absolutely shocked if Dennard lasted that long, if he's there in the 20s I'd be more than okay with the browns trading up to grab him.

RoyceRolls

It wasn't too long ago that Kiper was telling Skip Bayless that Manziel didn't belong in the first round. I assume Bayless sucked Kipers dick down to the nutsack so he'd amend his mock.

jcam222

If this is even close to realistic (other than Hyde which is not) then I am convincing Minnesota they need to trade up from 8 to 4 to get their guy. I take their 2nd round pick and the remaining QB between Bridgewater and Bortles. Unless of course Watkins is still on the board in which case I take him and worry about QB somewhere in my next 3 picks.

darren15

NFL Network have posted 2 drafts today

roach

@sig570 said:
i like hyde, but come on. if we are going to take a first round RB (and we shouldnt) we should take tre mason. if hyde is availabe in the 3rd round then scoop him up

Agreed (sort of). RB's are a dime a dozen. You don't use a late first round pick on one. Assuming the QB position is addressed, use it on the best available WR, pass rusher, DB, etc. Not a RB.

cdl15

@typicalbrowns said:

not another first round RB...

Hydes explosiveness off the handoff is a big question mark, if hes available in 2nd, take him, not 1

Where I agree with never ever ever drafting a running back in the 1st round. I have to disagree with the explosive comment. Getting the handoff out of the pistol and the spread is totally wasted one a north and south bruiser like Hyde.

With that being said Hyde's accomplishments are even that more impressive. He did what he did in an offense not suited to him. Hell he's the first RB to have 1K yrds for Urban and a good chance he will be the last.

Biased opinions aside I do want the Browns to get Hyde in the upcoming draft. First 3rd round pick they have would be the spot to take him. I would even move back into the ladder part of the 2nd round to get him. The Browns need a runner like him ALMOST as much as any position on the team. This kid would be exciting in a traditional I formation or basic NFL power running play with the intangibles to pass catch and size to block. He will be the best rb, FA or rookie, between the tackles. THE POINT OF ATTACK. And what a great stable of RBs to have. Hyde-power/every down. Lewis-Scat/change of pace/3rd down/up tempo. Edwin Baker- A guy that is very servicable and may push Obie but more likely to beat him straight up for 3rd rb. PROBLEM SOLVED JIMMY.

hoorta

I will LMAO if the Texans insist on taking Manziel #1 overall, It will mean the FO truly didn't know what they were doing firing Chud.

miktoxic

@hoorta said:
I will LMAO if the Texans insist on taking Manziel #1 overall, It will mean the FO truly didn't know what they were doing firing Chud.

exactly.

not only that that they had no plan moving forward. i personally didn't like the chud hiring, BUT one year and you're done must put chills down the back of anyone of greatness to decide to take the browns HC job unless they are as desperate as this FO is now.

someone with some balls needs to be hired under their conditions and signedoff by haslam, as in they have a voice in the drafting and hiring of staff.

that's why i say talk to rob ryan cuz he don't give a fuck. cut my hair....no. trade up to get manziel....no. bortles will land to us @4 then get us D upgrades at #2 corner and lb help. a good if not great RB and a WR and someone to take over on the right side of the OL. play your ball and if no one likes it they can kiss his ass or fire him again under a one and done contract and we will be untouchable by anybody worth their weight as another prospective HC.

MasterDog

@miktoxic said:
that's why i say talk to rob ryan cuz he don't give a fuck.

+1

I think he's a perfect fit for this disorganized FO. In the AFC North, you need a crazy mofo running the show.

I like his defensive schemes, he tends to work with the talents in his roster than mold his players into his system.