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  • If Curry is there- get him. If he goes to KC or anyone else- get Rey Mualagala...

  • S Solon16

    @ytownbrownsbacker said:

    and the comments above were why I started the post about best available vs need. We need LBs (both ILB and pass rush OLB) but if Curry is gone, at what point are we reaching for need and passing on the best player available.

    I would rather try to grab the best LB I could get through FA and then take the best player available.

    I agree with those above that think Rey is a reach with the #5 pick as is every other defensive player except Curry, at this point before the combine and pro days anyway.

    If Curry is gone then we will be kicking ourselves that we didn't go hard after a Bart Scott or Crowder.

    IMO once you get past Curry then the best defensive players are Jenkins, Everette Brown and Raji. And, they are all need reaches at #5.

    Fill your needs in FA and take the best players available in the draft.

    AS you say...all are reaches at 5. We have to stop the RUN...we have a dominant NT....give me a dominant ILB behind him and we stop the run!!!

    @solon16 said:

    AS you say...all are reaches at 5. We have to stop the RUN...we have a dominant NT....give me a dominant ILB behind him and we stop the run!!!

    Last year you made the call on Mayo and from the combine until draft day his value really jumped. I would imagine that once we see the combine workouts and the pro days our opinions may very well change. Our needs may also depend on what happens in FA.

    I still say that if Curry and Crabtree are gone we will have suiters for a trade because Sanchez will rock their socks at the combine and at his pro day. I am not a draft for need type guy, but I say it may be easier to fill the ILB position in FA then find a pass rusher.

    I also believe that Everette Brown and Raji's stock will skyrocket after the combine and their pro days.

    If we don't get a Crowder or Scott in FA then it just might be Curry or how far do you trade down. This is a very deep LB draft and an additional 2nd rounder may be better then a reach in the first round.

  • Everybody says it's easier to get a ILB in FA...if that is the case why haven't the Browns had one in 40 years?

    Also to JD....English is a LATE first rounder and may even make it to second round after being beaten by Oher most of the senior Bowl....no way on God's green earth is he a top 10ner IMO>

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  • ? Guest

    @solon16 said:

    AS you say...all are reaches at 5. We have to stop the RUN...we have a dominant NT....give me a dominant ILB behind him and we stop the run!!!

    I'd still say who is the dominant ILB for PIT, NE, SD, Jets, or MIA (with PIT being #1 against the run)? They all do not have a guy I'd call dominant.

    Man I wish Mays was coming out of USC this year 🙁 While not a LB, he will be a force like Troy P and Reed in the NFL

    Masters said:

    I'd still say who is the dominant ILB for PIT, NE, SD, Jets, or MIA (with PIT being #1 against the run)? They all do not have a guy I'd call dominant.

    Man I wish Mays was coming out of USC this year 🙁 While not a LB, he will be a force like Troy P and Reed in the NFL

    as to Pitt Farrior and foote are KA together Not a singletary, but together are the best in football. Mayo and Bruchi are very close...I don't follow the chargers but as I recall they got Gashed inside on the run all year...jets have Harris whom I wanted badly...Miami is a mystery to me!

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  • I'd stay away from Barton. Very emotional player (good) but overmatched in pass defense (both in rush and coverage). Looked VERY bad against Buffalo in run defense. He's the kind of guy who in baseball would be a starter who eats up innings and is mostly serviceable but will regularly be overmatched.

  • E Earl34

    I'd stay away from Barton. Very emotional player (good) but overmatched in pass defense (both in rush and coverage). Looked VERY bad against Buffalo in run defense. He's the kind of guy who in baseball would be a starter who eats up innings and is mostly serviceable but will regularly be overmatched.

    @earl34 said:

    Looked VERY bad against Buffalo in run defense.

    That's an understatement. He was horrible (though he looked better in other games that I watched).

  • S Solon16

    Everybody says it's easier to get a ILB in FA...if that is the case why haven't the Browns had one in 40 years?

    Also to JD....English is a LATE first rounder and may even make it to second round after being beaten by Oher most of the senior Bowl....no way on God's green earth is he a top 10ner IMO>

    @solon16 said:

    Everybody says it's easier to get a ILB in FA...if that is the case why haven't the Browns had one in 40 years?

    Also to JD....English is a LATE first rounder and may even make it to second round after being beaten by Oher most of the senior Bowl....no way on God's green earth is he a top 10ner IMO>

    we say it's easier to get an ILB than a pass rusher because there's been one instance of a dominant pass rusher hitting the market in the prime of his career and that's reggie white. it doesn't help that there's an absolute dearth of pass rushing talent available this year.

    i included english and sintim in the event that the FO is planning a trade down and targeting them with the idea of getting a pass rusher and also stockpiling picks, not with the idea that we'd take either at five.

  • S Solon16

    Masters said:

    I'd still say who is the dominant ILB for PIT, NE, SD, Jets, or MIA (with PIT being #1 against the run)? They all do not have a guy I'd call dominant.

    Man I wish Mays was coming out of USC this year 🙁 While not a LB, he will be a force like Troy P and Reed in the NFL

    as to Pitt Farrior and foote are KA together Not a singletary, but together are the best in football. Mayo and Bruchi are very close...I don't follow the chargers but as I recall they got Gashed inside on the run all year...jets have Harris whom I wanted badly...Miami is a mystery to me!

    @solon16 said:

    as to Pitt Farrior and foote are KA together Not a singletary, but together are the best in football. Mayo and Bruchi are very close...I don't follow the chargers but as I recall they got Gashed inside on the run all year...jets have Harris whom I wanted badly...Miami is a mystery to me!

    I think you see my point though. You don't have to have that "dominant" ILB in the 3-4. To be honest, there is probably all of 3 dominant ILB/MLB in the NFL today any way. As you said elsewhere, CLE hasn't had a MLB/ILB really hold his weight since Holmes. I'd take a guy who can do what he did, and that can be found in FA.

  • Gotcha.... I still think and always will Qb on O and QB on D (MLB) is of MAJOR importance

  • S Solon16

    Gotcha.... I still think and always will Qb on O and QB on D (MLB) is of MAJOR importance

    @solon16 said:

    Gotcha.... I still think and always will Qb on O and QB on D (MLB) is of MAJOR importance

    I don't disagree with that thinking. But that QB on D (MLB) doesn't always have to be a beast or a thumper. Anymore, the FS is starting to look like that huge key piece on D in the NFL.

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