Texans trying to trick us
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texans won't dumb shaub after one bad season. He'll come back from his injury. THey will likely draft his backup this year, but not with the #1. Texans are taking Clowney....of course they're trying to get one over on teams that are perennially in need of qb's and are just a few picks back. They'd get our pick and probably the Indy pick for that #1 and still get Clowney. I'm gonna say right now that the Texans will have the best front line in football if they get Clowney. The only guy in the draft I'd take over Clowney if I were the Browns FO, is Watkins. I think even Jason Campbell would light up the league throwing to those two guys and Jordan Cameron. I honestly don't think we need to roll any dice this year. Stay at 4 and take the BPA. Even though Clowney could very easily transition to a hybrid OLB, it would take time so if we stay in the 3-4 i would put more weight on drafting Watkins. If, and we all know it's basically a coin toss at this point, we go back to the 4-3....than I think we have to target Clowney.
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and for the record I will get absolutely SICK if the Texans trade down or get Manziel/Bridgewater, and then the Rams trade the #2 pick and someone gets the other one. Then we're either stuck with Bortles, or we literally HAVE to grab Sammy Watkins.
i don't think the rams have given up on bradford. i think they know there is going to be a fight between certain clubs to go get their guy and don't want to be trumped by another team, which makes their pick @2 very much in play as far as trades are concerned.
what they really need is to protect bradford and give him some weapons. can you name their #1 receiver off the top of your head? neither can i. even if they trade down 2 spots to us for example they'll probably be guaranteed to get 2 more picks from us and only swap 2 positions where they can get watkins or whoever they are sold on.
i think the rams will walk away like bandits on draft day.
i don't think the rams have given up on bradford. i think they know there is going to be a fight between certain clubs to go get their guy and don't want to be trumped by another team, which makes their pick @2 very much in play as far as trades are concerned.
what they really need is to protect bradford and give him some weapons. can you name their #1 receiver off the top of your head? neither can i. even if they trade down 2 spots to us for example they'll probably be guaranteed to get 2 more picks from us and only swap 2 positions where they can get watkins or whoever they are sold on.
i think the rams will walk away like bandits on draft day.
I wish they had given up on Bradford. I would take him.
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Campbell couldn't throw to Chandler Winslow and Joiner....
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texans won't dumb shaub after one bad season. He'll come back from his injury. THey will likely draft his backup this year, but not with the #1. Texans are taking Clowney....of course they're trying to get one over on teams that are perennially in need of qb's and are just a few picks back. They'd get our pick and probably the Indy pick for that #1 and still get Clowney. I'm gonna say right now that the Texans will have the best front line in football if they get Clowney. The only guy in the draft I'd take over Clowney if I were the Browns FO, is Watkins. I think even Jason Campbell would light up the league throwing to those two guys and Jordan Cameron. I honestly don't think we need to roll any dice this year. Stay at 4 and take the BPA. Even though Clowney could very easily transition to a hybrid OLB, it would take time so if we stay in the 3-4 i would put more weight on drafting Watkins. If, and we all know it's basically a coin toss at this point, we go back to the 4-3....than I think we have to target Clowney.
texans won't dump shaub after one bad season. He'll come back from his injury. THey will likely draft his backup this year, but not with the #1. Texans are taking Clowney....of course they're trying to get one over on teams that are perennially in need of qb's and are just a few picks back. They'd get our pick and probably the Indy pick for that #1 and still get Clowney. I'm gonna say right now that the Texans will have the best front line in football if they get Clowney. The only guy in the draft I'd take over Clowney if I were the Browns FO, is Watkins. I think even Jason Campbell would light up the league throwing to those two guys and Jordan Cameron. I honestly don't think we need to roll any dice this year. Stay at 4 and take the BPA. Even though Clowney could very easily transition to a hybrid OLB, it would take time so if we stay in the 3-4 i would put more weight on drafting Watkins. If, and we all know it's basically a coin toss at this point, we go back to the 4-3....than I think we have to target Clowney.
Exactly- if the Texans don't take Clowney, the Rams almost certainly will. There is no reason, none for the Browns to trade up. If they're going qb shopping one of the top 3 will be there, or Watkins.
I think teams learned a thing or two from the Redskins RGII fiasco, and there's not going to be a sell the ranch trade to move up to take a qb this year- but I can't underestimate the ability of Lobotomy to try the same tactic.
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i don't think the rams have given up on bradford. i think they know there is going to be a fight between certain clubs to go get their guy and don't want to be trumped by another team, which makes their pick @2 very much in play as far as trades are concerned.
what they really need is to protect bradford and give him some weapons. can you name their #1 receiver off the top of your head? neither can i. even if they trade down 2 spots to us for example they'll probably be guaranteed to get 2 more picks from us and only swap 2 positions where they can get watkins or whoever they are sold on.
i think the rams will walk away like bandits on draft day.
I wish they had given up on Bradford. I would take him.
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Sam Bradford? No thanks...
Geez, Z... they're not even the three best Stooges?
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I hope they bluffin...but it is a regional thing here....he would bring excitement and attention....but don't trade up...if they take him they take him...CLeveland just get one of the other two QB,s and hope he does good.As much as I like Manziel,I wouldn't trade both those picks for him.
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By the time the draft comes around it will be clear that Clowney is the BPA. It will also be clear the Texans are going to take him. Sure, somebody might try to jump the Jags & Browns for a QB, but I'm not sure I see who has the ammo and/or need, so the Rams will sit at 2 and take Matthews. The Jags will have the first swing at QB and probably will take Bridgewater... So...
The Browns are going to pick between Watkins, Bortles, Manziel... For me, it's pretty easy to say I take Bortles, but I'm curious what will happen to his stock in the next 3+ months. I'd love to take Watkins, but there is a lot of depth at WR in the draft, and we can find a true WR2 into the 3rd round. Manziel... stay away! I've seen what he's done and I will root for him like nobody's business, but I can't see NFL QB (watch the A&M vs. Missouri game from this year).
Having said all that... I like standing pat, and picking any of Clowney, Bridgewater, Bortles, or Watkins... One of those guys HAS to be there when we pick and I'd be happy with any of them... Plus, if we go Watkins/Clowney, we can still try and get Carr with 1b (but PoG put the jinx on him by posting how he is his new man crush)
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XxDaBuckeyexX said:
Id bet against that. He may be the surest thing, but chances are he doesnt end up as the best.
but you won't bet against manziel.
alright PoG.
i coming across the board saying the dude MIGHT be good..........
but clowney and watkins are sure things. bet it.
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XxDaBuckeyexX said:
Id bet against that. He may be the surest thing, but chances are he doesnt end up as the best.
but you won't bet against manziel.
alright PoG.
i coming across the board saying the dude MIGHT be good..........
but clowney and watkins are sure things. bet it.
oh I know. Im just saying that out of 200+ players to compete with for best over the course of a career he has a slim shot of coming out the best. I even said hes the best bet to succeed. Manziel is the QB I think has the best shot to succeed, and our ultimate need is QB, which is why Im pro-Manziel at 4.but you won't bet against manziel.
alright PoG.
i coming across the board saying the dude MIGHT be good..........
but clowney and watkins are sure things. bet it.
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Sam Bradford? No thanks...
Geez, Z... they're not even the three best Stooges?
better than what's coming out as QB and NFL road tested that he can take a thumpin.
give him an OL a RB and some receivers and the guy would be great.
unfortunately for him he's like tim couch on our '99 team. a man standing alone on an island with wiilson.
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oh I know. Im just saying that out of 200+ players to compete with for best over the course of a career he has a slim shot of coming out the best. I even said hes the best bet to succeed. Manziel is the QB I think has the best shot to succeed, and our ultimate need is QB, which is why Im pro-Manziel at 4.but you won't bet against manziel.
alright PoG.
i coming across the board saying the dude MIGHT be good..........
but clowney and watkins are sure things. bet it.
XxDaBuckeyexX said:
oh I know. Im just saying that out of 200+ players to compete with for best over the course of a career he has a slim shot of coming out the best. I even said hes the best bet to succeed. Manziel is the QB I think has the best shot to succeed, and our ultimate need is QB, which is why Im pro-Manziel at 4.
hey bro. those are your thoughts and prob our redneck owners's thoughts.
it's a gamble. big time. the biggest gamble a football franchise can make. would you want to be the guy that pulls the trigger on johnnybenotsogod and set the franchise back another five years or just stay chill and see who is ther @4.
mr. gamblin man?
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ESPN is really getting an early start on the Manziel draft slide narrative.
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XxDaBuckeyexX said:
oh I know. Im just saying that out of 200+ players to compete with for best over the course of a career he has a slim shot of coming out the best. I even said hes the best bet to succeed. Manziel is the QB I think has the best shot to succeed, and our ultimate need is QB, which is why Im pro-Manziel at 4.
hey bro. those are your thoughts and prob our redneck owners's thoughts.
it's a gamble. big time. the biggest gamble a football franchise can make. would you want to be the guy that pulls the trigger on johnnybenotsogod and set the franchise back another five years or just stay chill and see who is ther @4.
mr. gamblin man?
oh I'm definitely against trading up with the 4 pick, unless we can do it without sacrificing 26, our 2nd, or any of next years picks.hey bro. those are your thoughts and prob our redneck owners's thoughts.
it's a gamble. big time. the biggest gamble a football franchise can make. would you want to be the guy that pulls the trigger on johnnybenotsogod and set the franchise back another five years or just stay chill and see who is ther @4.
mr. gamblin man?
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Sam Bradford? No thanks...
Geez, Z... they're not even the three best Stooges?
better than what's coming out as QB and NFL road tested that he can take a thumpin.
give him an OL a RB and some receivers and the guy would be great.
unfortunately for him he's like tim couch on our '99 team. a man standing alone on an island with wiilson.
better than what's coming out as QB and NFL road tested that he can take a thumpin.
give him an OL a RB and some receivers and the guy would be great.
unfortunately for him he's like tim couch on our '99 team. a man standing alone on an island with wiilson.
he's had Stephen Jackson when healthy...Bradford sucks...no thanks...Im eating crow on that one.
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Let's just trade our 1st pick for Sam Bradford.
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